Chit Chat
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/nigel-farage-tells-boris-johnson-lets-beat-jeremy-corbyn-together-as-long-as-the-prime-minister-commits-to-leaving-the-eu-without-a-deal/ar-AAGXg2V?
.
Nigel Farage today offers to prop up Boris Johnson in Downing Street 'with a big majority' as long as he commits to leaving the EU without a deal.
The Brexit Party chief's offer comes amid growing pressure from Tory MPs for the Prime Minister to draw up a pact with the Eurosceptic hardliners if there is an Election before Britain leaves the EU.
Mr Farage made his offer in a full page advert in newspapers, including The Mail on Sunday. In a design similar to the successful Tory election posters of the 1980s, it depicts the two men facing each other.
Mr Farage says 'together we would be unstoppable' and that the pair could 'destroy Corbyn's Labour'.
Either his party could stand down completely from contesting seats at a General Election, or step aside in marginals where they might split a Brexit vote and allow Labour in.
But last night No 10 sources poured cold water on any notion of a pact. A major roadblock would be the personal enmity between Mr Farage and Downing Street chief strategist Dominic Cummings.
The pair clashed repeatedly during the 2016 referendum when Mr Cummings ran Vote Leave and refused to join forces with Mr Farage's Leave.EU campaign.
Mr Cummings once claimed: 'Farage and the idiots around him came within a whisker of losing us the referendum.'
And in July, Mr Farage said of Mr Cummings: 'He thinks we're all cretins. He has never liked me.'
.
Nigel Farage today offers to prop up Boris Johnson in Downing Street 'with a big majority' as long as he commits to leaving the EU without a deal.
The Brexit Party chief's offer comes amid growing pressure from Tory MPs for the Prime Minister to draw up a pact with the Eurosceptic hardliners if there is an Election before Britain leaves the EU.
Mr Farage made his offer in a full page advert in newspapers, including The Mail on Sunday. In a design similar to the successful Tory election posters of the 1980s, it depicts the two men facing each other.
Mr Farage says 'together we would be unstoppable' and that the pair could 'destroy Corbyn's Labour'.
Either his party could stand down completely from contesting seats at a General Election, or step aside in marginals where they might split a Brexit vote and allow Labour in.
But last night No 10 sources poured cold water on any notion of a pact. A major roadblock would be the personal enmity between Mr Farage and Downing Street chief strategist Dominic Cummings.
The pair clashed repeatedly during the 2016 referendum when Mr Cummings ran Vote Leave and refused to join forces with Mr Farage's Leave.EU campaign.
Mr Cummings once claimed: 'Farage and the idiots around him came within a whisker of losing us the referendum.'
And in July, Mr Farage said of Mr Cummings: 'He thinks we're all cretins. He has never liked me.'
Show More
Cummings is there to keep the civil servants in check; & when an election is called, the Tories might not need Farage given the way Labour is playing into Bozos hands. That could change of course & Bozo would dump Cummings in a heartbeat
Might not need anything if the latest reports from France are true and come to fruition 
Anyone else read that "together we could unstoppable" line in the voice of Darth Vader to his newly one-handed son?
lol farage and bullingdon ffs id even vote for Lib Dems to stop them 
You know it makes sense, Anx 
[ This image is no longer available. ]
[ This image is no longer available. ]
this will not happen not a chance , most of the tories would resign anyway , plus Bullingdons lovechild cummings hates farage and called him an complete idiot during the referendum campaign
What odds? The swamp is being drained and the Tory traitors are jumping before they are pushed. If Cummings proves to be a liability, surely he will jump / be pushed to? What happened to that Campbell Wayne Kerr?
We know who the traitors are now
And they will be dealt with in the harshest possible way
And they will be dealt with in the harshest possible way
Wasn't a swamp it was a sewage pit, full to the brim and blocked up with s**t
how many tories are left in the swamp?
From the Andrew Marr show this morning ......
Q: Are you comfortable with a pact between the Brexit party and the Tories?
We don’t need an electoral alliance with anyone, Javid insists. We need to heal society, he added.
But he repeatedly refused to rule out an electoral alliance with the Brexit party. We don’t need it, he repeated. We are a proud centre-right party, we are not extremist, Javid added.
Q: Are you comfortable with a pact between the Brexit party and the Tories?
We don’t need an electoral alliance with anyone, Javid insists. We need to heal society, he added.
But he repeatedly refused to rule out an electoral alliance with the Brexit party. We don’t need it, he repeated. We are a proud centre-right party, we are not extremist, Javid added.
the snitch has left his basket; tight-lipped everyone
The worry is that if Prime Minster Johnson lets the extension happen and then calls an election, that action will severely dent the Conservative support because he will not have delivered on his promise for leaving on 31st October. Proportionately you imagine the Brexit Party's share will increase meaning a coalition of the two much more likely and then could they PLEASE repeal the traitor bill which will likely get royal assent tomorrow, meaning we can revert to NO DEAL being back on the table.
I still think the prerogative should be considered even though its use will likely be submitted for judicial review by the traitors.
I still think the prerogative should be considered even though its use will likely be submitted for judicial review by the traitors.
I'm reminded a bit of the 80s with the Tories. The Thatcher fringe and the Wets.
I wouldn't underestmate the Brexit Party. They are not all right wing free market racists. It is an option for the government though if they did enter into such a deal, the right candidate standing for the Brexit Party wolud certainly split the Labour vote. A lot of factors to consider though. Would enough Labout voters change their support, is Brexit their overarching issue against all the other areas that means they vote Labour above other parties, notwithstanding a natural deep distrust of the Tories? What happends after that, as the Brexit Party are really only a single issue pressure group.
Just because the London political and media bubble frame an election as a 2nd referendum, it doesn't necessarily mean voters see it as that. Looks like the angle though is for the Prime Minister to pitch it as a parliament v people issue, with him as the victim.
This though is really hard to call. It is a given to neither side. Both have valid points while both also have very arrogant nay stupid positions.
Finally, how many will not vote, being fed up entirely with the mess?
I wouldn't underestmate the Brexit Party. They are not all right wing free market racists. It is an option for the government though if they did enter into such a deal, the right candidate standing for the Brexit Party wolud certainly split the Labour vote. A lot of factors to consider though. Would enough Labout voters change their support, is Brexit their overarching issue against all the other areas that means they vote Labour above other parties, notwithstanding a natural deep distrust of the Tories? What happends after that, as the Brexit Party are really only a single issue pressure group.
Just because the London political and media bubble frame an election as a 2nd referendum, it doesn't necessarily mean voters see it as that. Looks like the angle though is for the Prime Minister to pitch it as a parliament v people issue, with him as the victim.
This though is really hard to call. It is a given to neither side. Both have valid points while both also have very arrogant nay stupid positions.
Finally, how many will not vote, being fed up entirely with the mess?
Hi everyone.
Trilby, Twizzle - listening to Nigel?
Trilby, Twizzle - listening to Nigel?
fine mr trilby
good to see you back.
good to see you back.
you mean on the topic you were trolling me on? The one were YOU were the worst offender? The one that mousey got banned because of - the one you came back after 3 weeks away to post on? The one you were watching for days without posting before deciding to join in? How come you didn't get banned, bagpuss? Have you ever been banned bagpuss?
Thanks yh2l - it'll take a while to get used to that 
Good moaning, yup
Good moaning, yup
the Tory support will not will not be dented, it will strengthen; the supporters know who is to blame if we do not leave, & it isn't Bozo
I disagree with that, Leops. He presents a very balanced show and always gives remainers a chance to state their opinions without shouting them down, unlike Mr O'Brien does with leavers.
bagpuss knows as much about politics as he does decorum
Was that this morning, EK? I had the hoover on for bit earlier.
Agreed Trilby and I do miss when he's not there made worse when they replace him with a remainer 
Ive listened to lbc now and again and its full of right wing shock jocks , same as talk radio
The lady who was talking was an Australian who had become a British citizen and he asked her who she was supporting in the Ashes
O'Brien, Mair, Nawaz - hardly right-wing shock jocks!
Yes Anx. The 8th day of the month is a Sunday in September 
It only Nige and Iain Dale I can really listen to on LBC anymore. There was another Ian (remainer) - used to be on 10pm weekdays - who was very good.
Haha, the Sheila was good!
It only Nige and Iain Dale I can really listen to on LBC anymore. There was another Ian (remainer) - used to be on 10pm weekdays - who was very good.
Haha, the Sheila was good!
o brien even though he is not a tory , i dont really like him he is a bit to smarmy and arrogant
Ian dale i can listen to him even though he is a tory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Collins_(radio_presenter)
I like both of them, Trilby, and both Pierce and Ferrari. I loved the latter and Boris Johnson on 'Ask Boris' when Johnson was Mayor of London:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uluTjwVsjDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uluTjwVsjDI
Oh not ferrari horrible creature full of himself and there is plenty of him , pierce isnt he the daily mail guy , no thank you
Well I would agree with you Anxious about James O'Brien - sometimes the way he speaks to people reminds of badger baiting!
James O'Brien is brilliant.....he scares you right wingers....that's why you try to knock him !
Only two decent shows worth listening to on LBC...Nige and Dale..the rest ain't worth a packet of fruit gums.Mike Graham who broadcasts on Talk radio on weekday mornings is excellent and all you leavers should give this guy a spin..here's an example of the great man last week..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je__p4t_gP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je__p4t_gP4
Leopard ain't lolling anymore..why's that " fella"
Oh.. i forgot..you've blocked me..yer great big girls blouse
Sep 8, 2019 -- 11:51AM, Baphornet wrote:
the Tory support will not will not be dented, it will strengthen; the supporters know who is to blame if we do not leave, & it isn't Bozo
Some polling quoted in a Financial Times story by Jim Pickard helps to explain why Labour might be keen to delay the election until November. If Johnson were to go to the polls after 31 October without having delivered Brexit, support for the Brexit party would double, the poll suggests. Pickard writes:
"An ICM poll suggests that support for the Brexit party would double from 9 per cent to 18 per cent if an election takes place after Halloween.
The poll, commissioned by Represent Us — which is pushing for a second Brexit referendum — found the Conservatives’ lead over Labour would evaporate in those circumstances.
The ICM poll suggests the Tories would beat Labour by 37 per cent against 30 per cent in an October election, while the two parties would be neck and neck on 28 per cent in a November poll."
The poll, commissioned by Represent Us — which is pushing for a second Brexit referendum
say no more
say no more
Not overly keen on Ferrari either. A touch pompous and takes himself a bit seriously, imo. Get's on my tits when he says, "Good morning" after he's asked a new caller the question 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-news-latest-eu-will-refuse-delay-in-current-circumstances-france-warns/ar-AAGZ9vX?
.
Here's hoping
.
Here's hoping
Sep 8, 2019 -- 2:53PM, Baphornet wrote:
The poll, commissioned by Represent Us — which is pushing for a second Brexit referendum say no more
Please explain to the forum why, after failing to leave the EU before October 31 as promised by Boris Johnson, the conservatives would not lose votes to the Brexit Party in a General Election held after October 31
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nigel-farages-brexit-party-want-free-run-at-90-seats-in-proposed-general-election-pact-with-tories/ar-AAH7Aem?
.
Nigel Farage has reportedly said he would strike an election pact with the Tories if his Brexit Party was given a free run in up to 90 parliamentary seats.
The former Ukip leader is understood to have told Number 10 he would then, in return, not field any candidates against sitting Conservative MPs or target seats for the Tory party.
Mr Farage’s offer, which would include a free shot at 80 to 90 seats, was passed to Prime Minister Boris Johnson by senior figures in the Conservative party, the Sun reported.
The hardline Brexiteer is thought to have made clear he wants to go for Labour seats where Ukip has previously had some success, such as in the Midlands and the North East.
A source close to Mr Farage told The Sun: “Nigel has had some conversations with people who are very close to Boris, not MPs or ministers to keep them discreet.
“They’re more to scope out whether he’s serious about a deal than actual negotiations, and the Tories know appreciate he is. It is a beginning”.
They added: “It’s very simple, it’s all about the numbers. Boris knows he cannot win a majority without our help”.
Farage on Tuesday signalled that his Brexit Party would be prepared to make a pact with Mr Johnson’s party if they back a no-deal exit from the EU.
However, he also threatened to “fight” all constituencies, including those held by the Conservatives, if the Government opted for a watered-down version of Theresa May’s Brexit plan.
Asked on ITV’s Good Morning Britain what his stance would be if the Tories stood on a no-deal platform in a General Election, Mr Farage claimed: “Then our support and the Conservative support together would be unstoppable and Boris Johnson would win a very big majority.”
Pressed on whether this meant the Brexit Party would not stand against Tory candidates, he added: “I would put country before party in those circumstances.” But a tie-up between the Brexit Party and the Conservatives, however loose, is likely to alienate some centrist Tory voters, particularly those who oppose leaving the EU.
It comes after the Brexit Party announced some 635 candidates to stand in a General Election, if one is called, and Mr Farage warned the Prime Minister against seeking to “reheat” Mrs May’s Withdrawal Agreement — which was three times rejected by the Commons.
“Even without the backstop, it’s still the worst deal in history,” he added.
“So we are standing and we will stand in every seat in this election and will say to Boris Johnson ‘if you sell us out on Brexit with this awful Withdrawal Treaty we will fight you in every seat’.”
.
Nigel Farage has reportedly said he would strike an election pact with the Tories if his Brexit Party was given a free run in up to 90 parliamentary seats.
The former Ukip leader is understood to have told Number 10 he would then, in return, not field any candidates against sitting Conservative MPs or target seats for the Tory party.
Mr Farage’s offer, which would include a free shot at 80 to 90 seats, was passed to Prime Minister Boris Johnson by senior figures in the Conservative party, the Sun reported.
The hardline Brexiteer is thought to have made clear he wants to go for Labour seats where Ukip has previously had some success, such as in the Midlands and the North East.
A source close to Mr Farage told The Sun: “Nigel has had some conversations with people who are very close to Boris, not MPs or ministers to keep them discreet.
“They’re more to scope out whether he’s serious about a deal than actual negotiations, and the Tories know appreciate he is. It is a beginning”.
They added: “It’s very simple, it’s all about the numbers. Boris knows he cannot win a majority without our help”.
Farage on Tuesday signalled that his Brexit Party would be prepared to make a pact with Mr Johnson’s party if they back a no-deal exit from the EU.
However, he also threatened to “fight” all constituencies, including those held by the Conservatives, if the Government opted for a watered-down version of Theresa May’s Brexit plan.
Asked on ITV’s Good Morning Britain what his stance would be if the Tories stood on a no-deal platform in a General Election, Mr Farage claimed: “Then our support and the Conservative support together would be unstoppable and Boris Johnson would win a very big majority.”
Pressed on whether this meant the Brexit Party would not stand against Tory candidates, he added: “I would put country before party in those circumstances.” But a tie-up between the Brexit Party and the Conservatives, however loose, is likely to alienate some centrist Tory voters, particularly those who oppose leaving the EU.
It comes after the Brexit Party announced some 635 candidates to stand in a General Election, if one is called, and Mr Farage warned the Prime Minister against seeking to “reheat” Mrs May’s Withdrawal Agreement — which was three times rejected by the Commons.
“Even without the backstop, it’s still the worst deal in history,” he added.
“So we are standing and we will stand in every seat in this election and will say to Boris Johnson ‘if you sell us out on Brexit with this awful Withdrawal Treaty we will fight you in every seat’.”
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539