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Apart from the inflation, the job losses and the delicious chlorinated chicken.
How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?
How will you personally benefit from leaving the EU?
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It's the will of the people. That's it. If you listen, the only reason given by Boris and the Brexiteers is the referendum result. Not even Nigel Farage bothers making a positive case for Brexit.
We voted for it so it must happen. We can't have another referendum because that would be undemocratic, even though we have elections every few years rather than just sticking with the 1956 result.
It's not going to boost the economy. It's not going to limit immigration. It's not going to make your lager taste better.
We voted for it so it must happen. We can't have another referendum because that would be undemocratic, even though we have elections every few years rather than just sticking with the 1956 result.
It's not going to boost the economy. It's not going to limit immigration. It's not going to make your lager taste better.
Would they be the same, or different, job losses to the 500,000 that were supposed to happen just because we voted for Brexit?
Quite probably, but they've nowt else to argue with so are having to use it again.
What’s wrong with small?
We've done big, empire, global power etc. Maybe small really will be beautiful?
As for the EU, I've said many times what I see is a hijack of a great idea to create a trading and cooperation area between free independent nations. A hijack by a resurgent Germany and a wannabe imperial France backed by globalised corporations and international finance calling the shots in Europe.
It's frankly another attempt to build a European empire with German economic backing (they are the only nation really doing well out of the project, ask the Italians, the Greeks, the Spanish etc.) The Empire dreamers aren't in Britain anymore (done that been there got the guilt complex) they are the EU with their plans for European armies, United States of Europe internal markets,advantageous to those who give up sovereignty and join their empire and punishing to those who refuse. A European land based empire by any other name with the imperial capital in Brussels where the empires laws are made and its ruling classes can run things with little or dissent from the serfs they are creating. Reducing the commodity of labour and skill to its lowest worth by creating a vast pool of cheap mobile workers willing to travel and leave their homes and compete with each other for work in a race to the bottom whilst the few get richer and richer.
Taking back control is more than taking back control of a border.
We can choose what we get after Brexit if we stop arguing with each other about whether or not we should give up and be part of the European empire or remain a small free and independent nation and get on with working to create a Britain we'd actually all like to be part of.
Brexit might be nostalgia for some Escapee, but for others like me it’s the chance to actually begin again.
We've done big, empire, global power etc. Maybe small really will be beautiful?
As for the EU, I've said many times what I see is a hijack of a great idea to create a trading and cooperation area between free independent nations. A hijack by a resurgent Germany and a wannabe imperial France backed by globalised corporations and international finance calling the shots in Europe.
It's frankly another attempt to build a European empire with German economic backing (they are the only nation really doing well out of the project, ask the Italians, the Greeks, the Spanish etc.) The Empire dreamers aren't in Britain anymore (done that been there got the guilt complex) they are the EU with their plans for European armies, United States of Europe internal markets,advantageous to those who give up sovereignty and join their empire and punishing to those who refuse. A European land based empire by any other name with the imperial capital in Brussels where the empires laws are made and its ruling classes can run things with little or dissent from the serfs they are creating. Reducing the commodity of labour and skill to its lowest worth by creating a vast pool of cheap mobile workers willing to travel and leave their homes and compete with each other for work in a race to the bottom whilst the few get richer and richer.
Taking back control is more than taking back control of a border.
We can choose what we get after Brexit if we stop arguing with each other about whether or not we should give up and be part of the European empire or remain a small free and independent nation and get on with working to create a Britain we'd actually all like to be part of.
Brexit might be nostalgia for some Escapee, but for others like me it’s the chance to actually begin again.
But we don't need to leave the EU to do that. A million years ago (well, two weeks) Johnson announced he needed to shut down parliament to figure out a new government programme.
There would be exciting new policies aimed at massively improving the things that are important to everyone: the health service, social care, policing, infrastructure, investment in vital public services.
None of those things are dependant on us being out of the EU. Being inside it doesn't constrain what kind of NHS we have, how many police we have or how we deploy them, how much we spend on our schools or on ensuring our pensioners are treated with dignity.
None of them.
Brexit is and always has been a con that's gone rogue. A government that got so good at convincing the public that the effects of austerity were actually caused by foreigners or EU interference that the public got fed up about moaning about them and demanded a chance to change it. Now we're left with a divided nation with the PM wanting to actively break the law in order to make us massively poorer.
In 50 years there'll be books written about the lessons to be learnt from a country so stupid it thought Cameron, May and Johnson were the best people to be in charge of it.
There would be exciting new policies aimed at massively improving the things that are important to everyone: the health service, social care, policing, infrastructure, investment in vital public services.
None of those things are dependant on us being out of the EU. Being inside it doesn't constrain what kind of NHS we have, how many police we have or how we deploy them, how much we spend on our schools or on ensuring our pensioners are treated with dignity.
None of them.
Brexit is and always has been a con that's gone rogue. A government that got so good at convincing the public that the effects of austerity were actually caused by foreigners or EU interference that the public got fed up about moaning about them and demanded a chance to change it. Now we're left with a divided nation with the PM wanting to actively break the law in order to make us massively poorer.
In 50 years there'll be books written about the lessons to be learnt from a country so stupid it thought Cameron, May and Johnson were the best people to be in charge of it.
Why wait 50 years ? Surely one could pen something similar about a political party that thought they'd have a serious chance at the ballot box with Jeremy Corbyn as leader ably supported by the likes of Abbot and Thornberry 
As I said, a country so stupid that it thought Cameron, May and Johnson were the best.
In fairness to the 'country' only 2 of the 3 were elected by the people
lol dodgy dave , chairman may , and now bullingdon and his lovechild cummings , next maybe Fargio 
3 of them weren't even elected at some point or other
Cameron did a dodgy deal with the Lib Dems first time around, he won a narrow majority 2nd time around against a man who had to be hugged better by Paxman ffs
May was so bad she couldn't "even beat Corbyn", Boris is pure gold though, he's without doubt the best of the 3 just for sheer entertainment purposes
Cameron did a dodgy deal with the Lib Dems first time around, he won a narrow majority 2nd time around against a man who had to be hugged better by Paxman ffs
May was so bad she couldn't "even beat Corbyn", Boris is pure gold though, he's without doubt the best of the 3 just for sheer entertainment purposes
Brexit has highlighted the complete ineptitude of the British political machine. We now have major politicians openly admitting that they would refuse to ever accept the result of any vote if it doesn't fit with their own ideology
Macarony exactly
There's politicians resigning and joining a party because "they want to stop brexit"
Absolute dim witted morons
There's politicians resigning and joining a party because "they want to stop brexit"
Absolute dim witted morons
But we don't need to leave the EU to do that. A million years ago (well, two weeks) Johnson announced he needed to shut down parliament to figure out a new government programme.
There would be exciting new policies aimed at massively improving the things that are important to everyone: the health service, social care, policing, infrastructure, investment in vital public services.
None of those things are dependant on us being out of the EU. Being inside it doesn't constrain what kind of NHS we have, how many police we have or how we deploy them, how much we spend on our schools or on ensuring our pensioners are treated with dignity.
None of them.
Brexit is and always has been a con that's gone rogue. A government that got so good at convincing the public that the effects of austerity were actually caused by foreigners or EU interference that the public got fed up about moaning about them and demanded a chance to change it. Now we're left with a divided nation with the PM wanting to actively break the law in order to make us massively poorer.
In 50 years there'll be books written about the lessons to be learnt from a country so stupid it thought Cameron, May and Johnson were the best people to be in charge of it.
Sorry I was just presenting a broad, personal case for whyI voted for and want a clean Brexit.
I thought it would be boring to go into the minutiae of EU rules on nationalisation, procurement, animal export, variable air passanger duty, the working time directive etc.
Leaving the EU reopens whole areas of policymaking off limits for decades.
Whether you are a rail nationaliser, a women’s warrior, a fuel poverty campaigner, NHS manager, animal rights activist, a public procurer, a commuter between Belfast and London, or someone who used to enjoy duty free on trips to Costa del Sol — there could be something in Brexit for you.
We have decided to take back control.
We should start discussing all the things we could do with it - and blue passports don't enter into it.
There would be exciting new policies aimed at massively improving the things that are important to everyone: the health service, social care, policing, infrastructure, investment in vital public services.
None of those things are dependant on us being out of the EU. Being inside it doesn't constrain what kind of NHS we have, how many police we have or how we deploy them, how much we spend on our schools or on ensuring our pensioners are treated with dignity.
None of them.
Brexit is and always has been a con that's gone rogue. A government that got so good at convincing the public that the effects of austerity were actually caused by foreigners or EU interference that the public got fed up about moaning about them and demanded a chance to change it. Now we're left with a divided nation with the PM wanting to actively break the law in order to make us massively poorer.
In 50 years there'll be books written about the lessons to be learnt from a country so stupid it thought Cameron, May and Johnson were the best people to be in charge of it.
Sorry I was just presenting a broad, personal case for whyI voted for and want a clean Brexit.
I thought it would be boring to go into the minutiae of EU rules on nationalisation, procurement, animal export, variable air passanger duty, the working time directive etc.
Leaving the EU reopens whole areas of policymaking off limits for decades.
Whether you are a rail nationaliser, a women’s warrior, a fuel poverty campaigner, NHS manager, animal rights activist, a public procurer, a commuter between Belfast and London, or someone who used to enjoy duty free on trips to Costa del Sol — there could be something in Brexit for you.
We have decided to take back control.
We should start discussing all the things we could do with it - and blue passports don't enter into it.
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