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By:
Angoose
When: 02 Dec 19 22:08
More questions than answers.
By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 02 Dec 19 22:09
Good watch that.

I thought VR was lying about that interview at palm beach for some reason. Very different body language to the rest of her accounts.  Its also fairly implausible a first meeting would have gone like that and she would at the same time be opening up about being an abuse victim.

Theres been 10+ years of lawyers journos courts and books it aint clean cut any more.
By:
akabula
When: 02 Dec 19 22:10
Changing his religion Foxy. Looking to the quoran for guidance. That'll get the press off his back.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 02 Dec 19 22:12
Where is Maxwell?
By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 02 Dec 19 22:13
Americans should send him thousands of troll invites to come visit.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 02 Dec 19 22:15

Dec 2, 2019 -- 10:10PM, akabula wrote:


Changing his religion Foxy. Looking to the quoran for guidance. That'll get the press off his back.


LaughLaughLaugh Hi mate, hope you are well and winning .Wink

By:
Diff-rent
When: 03 Dec 19 07:40
These wealthy folk all protect one another. They created the law so think they are above the law.

I do a robbery, get caught and serve how long in prison?
A pervert gets caught how long in prison?


Reason why is simple:

What chance has a wealthy son of a Royal, Judge, lawyer, Police and Government official committing Pervert acts or robbery?

Exactly there is you answer.

They protect their own. It's never going to change either.

That's why in prison, perverts are dealt proper law.

Whereby a robber is left to server out his time.

Even prison guards hate them.
By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 08:15
BBC Panorama said it had uncovered a 2015 email from Andrew to Maxwell asking for help dealing with the allegations by Giuffre, previously Virginia Roberts. He wrote: “Let me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions to ask you about Virginia Roberts,” to which Maxwell replied: “Have some info. Call me when you have a moment.”

Panorama’s The Prince and the Epstein Scandal claimed five of Epstein’s victims, who are suing the financier’s estate, want Andrew to give witness evidence in their court cases, and that he could have important evidence about Epstein’s sex trafficking operation. Subpoenas could be served if he visits the US.

Lawyers for the victims have twice written to the royal requesting an interview, but have yet to receive a response, it said.

After they left the club, she claimed, Maxwell told her “that I have to do for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey, and that just made me sick”. She alleges that later that evening, she had sex with Andrew at Maxwell’s house in Belgravia.

She said the alleged sexual encounter started in a bath, but “it didn’t last very long, the whole entire procedure. It was disgusting. He wasn’t mean or anything. But he got up and he said ‘thanks’ and walked out, and I sat there in bed just horrified and ashamed and felt dirty.” The next day, she claimed, Maxwell told her she had done “a really good job”.

Asked about a 2001 photograph that appears to show him with his arm around Giuffre’s waist, the prince said he did not recall it being taken, saying: “That’s me, but whether that’s my hand.” He added that it was difficult to prove if it was fake or not because “it’s a photograph of a photograph of a photograph”.

Giuffre said the now infamous photograph, first published in 2011 by the Mail on Sunday, which paid her $160,000 (£120,000) for her story, was genuine. She said she gave the original to the FBI in 2011.

The programme claimed a redacted court document shows she gave 20 photos to the FBI, which were scanned front and back. But only 19 photos were shown in the publicly available documents. Panorama had been told two missing reference numbers related to the Andrew photo, and that it was removed from the public document to protect his privacy.

Freelance photographer Michael Thomas, who first copied the 2001 photograph, claimed it was genuine, and told Panorama he found the original in 2011 in a bundle of 20 photos Giuffre handed to him from her travels with Epstein and Maxwell.

Maxwell has denied the allegations made against her. She has not been seen in public for months, amid speculation over her continued contact with the prince.

Giuffre’s interview was broadcast as the prince faces calls for a parliamentary inquiry into his business dealings, after the Mail on Sunday claimed he had been enabling a friend’s business interests while working as a British trade envoy.

The newspaper said it had seen a cache of documents, including leaked emails, about Andrew’s links with David Rowland, and claimed the prince had been helping his business interests, including promoting his private bank, while a trade envoy for Britain.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Dec 19 12:55
I missed the first few miuntes but have to say I was not impressed with the the interview at all. The questioner or questions were pretty poor and the Lady making the allegations did not convince me with her " performance ".

I do not dispute the girl was groomed and trafficked. I believe her when she says that is what happened. I am of the opinion she was entranced to be shagging a Prince who was once second in line to the throne. Maybe he was sweaty and not particularly " Prince Charming " and I think maybe afterwards she realised what had just happened.

I do not think Prince Dimwit committed an offence except that of a dirty old man who was shagging a girl just a little older than his daughters. This is not a crime at least not in the UK. It is pretty disgusting behaviour by a Prince of " ours? " but I am pretty sure this happens with the good, the great and the powerful.

HRH Dimwit is basically being used for attention and no doubt to earn extra coin. That goes with the territory and he should have either behaved better or hidden his tracks.

Interesting to hear the preaching of all that he should go to America and make a deposition. Fat chance! He should shut up and stay put in a heavily armoured castle. Perhaps Gloria Aldred would ask the lady who was involved in the death of Harry Dunn to come to the UK and make a statement to the Police?

The real question as usual is who are the ones being protected and why? What is happening with Ghislane Maxwell? Has she been questioned by the Federales? Is she wearing a wire / phone tap? Does she have any written or recorded information on the men who took advantage of Jeffrey Paedo's young girls?

Why aren't the American lawyers asking for GM to tell what she knows? It appears to all that she is the enabler and the one who should be in court!

No sympathy for the fat and sweaty Prince Dimwit, just saying is all.
By:
terry mccann
When: 03 Dec 19 13:34
There is even "Prince Andrew Interview-the Delate Scenes" video.
By:
trilby22
When: 03 Dec 19 13:58
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/prince-andrew-must-testify-over-information-about-sex-trafficking-lawyer-claims/ar-BBXGBYq?
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By:
acey deucy
When: 03 Dec 19 14:07
Epsteins c0ck is shaped like an egg?..Did I hear that right?
By:
trilby22
When: 03 Dec 19 14:10
That was on Panorama last night when he stood up, took off the recording equipment.

lol, egg c0ck Laugh wtf? Shocked
By:
posy
When: 03 Dec 19 14:11
Andrew likely to be appointed Governor General of Shags Rocks (South Georgia)
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Dec 19 15:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAwv2OgGaU

PMSL Left ,after Pen1s question Laugh
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Dec 19 15:59
Do we now know anything more than 'she claims', 'she alleges' etc. etc.?
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Dec 19 16:00

Dec 3, 2019 -- 1:34PM, terry mccann wrote:


There is even "Prince Andrew Interview-the Delate Scenes" video.


Here's the video terry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Gq0qPMAOo

I just have too questions:

1. Why do you think the elite let the video stay on YouTube?

2. How stupid are you?

By:
Angoose
When: 03 Dec 19 16:00

Dec 3, 2019 -- 2:07PM, acey deucy wrote:


Epsteins c0ck is shaped like an egg?..Did I hear that right?


When he stood up, I thought that he was going to whip it out and show that it's actually shaped like a chicken Surprised

By:
casemoney
When: 03 Dec 19 16:17
Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Dec 19 16:17
Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Dec 19 16:19
Video is Classic , Is your Penis Shaped like an Egg Mr Epstien

"Do we now know anything more than 'she claims', 'she alleges' etc. etc.?"

Well she knew his Penis was Egg Shaped De Laugh

I am waiting for a Reply from Crisp Laugh
By:
irishone
When: 03 Dec 19 17:48
I think that gal was telling the truth
I think that geyser was lying
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 03 Dec 19 18:07
I am not sure the girl was telling the full truth.

The Alan Dershowitz thing concerns me. He is another famous or well known person. It was clear from an email that he was a marque name and someone advised Virginia to push it. Dershowitz made a claim I would like to know exactley what he said. Effectively it sounded like he said he didn't cheat on his wife or hasn't slept with anyone else since he was married. Whether being awake and getting a BJ counts I do not not know, he is a Harvard Professor in Law!
By:
1st time poster
When: 03 Dec 19 19:06
what comes across as false is a 17 yr old girl,who with Epstein and his cohorts,letssay has been around the blocks,saying that Maxwell ,said to her do for Andrew what you do for Epstein,it would hardly have to be spelt out to her like she said last night
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Dec 19 22:28
When she stayed over Epstien asked her How she Liked her Eggs in the Morning ? She was certainly in for a surprise , He was lucky she didnt say scrambled Laugh
By:
treetop
When: 03 Dec 19 23:44
Just listening today and tis issue has a similar smell to the Harvey Proctor and Bramhall affair,driven by the media,legal eagles on commission,various spin doctors and media 'experts' and just possibly a bit of hate for the royal family privilege. Could be all valid but as we have found in recent years,sometimes without facts or evidence.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 Dec 19 07:16
Jeffrey Epstein’s private wealth banker, who brokered and signed off on untold multiple millions of dollars in controversial Deutsche Bank and Citibank loans spanning two decades for the convicted pedophile, has died from a reported suicide.

The news of yet another mysterious Epstein-linked death comes shortly after the FBI was seeking to interview the bank executive about loans he approved for Epstein and the indicted child trafficker’s labyrinth of US-based and offshore companies.

The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner confirmed Thomas Bowers died by an apparent suicide by hanging at his home before Thanksgiving.

Epstein likewise died from a reported suicide by hanging, according to the New York City Medical Examiner.

Bowers headed the private wealth banking division for Deutsche Bank and signed off on millions in loans to Epstein. Bowers, prior to taking over the private banking arm at Deutsche Bank, served in the same top position at Citibank, as the head of the bank’s private wealth arm. Citigroup also made massive loans to Epstein, according to records and banking sources who spoke to True Pundit.

True Pundit founder Mike “Thomas Paine” Moore previously headed anti-money laundering for a major Citigroup division during the time frame Citi commenced large loans to Epstein.

“The loans to Epstein were personal and commercial,” Paine confirmed. “The Citi loans I can confirm were for more than $25 million. Some were secured, some were not.”

Did Citi bend its lending rules for Epstein? Paine said that appears “quite likely,” with Bowers and other Citi executives he later recruited to work for him at Deutsche all working to secure the approvals regardless of compliance-related red flags.

And sources said Citi loaned Epstein much more money, eclipsing $100 million and also allowed Epstein to use the bank to send thousands of wire transfers from his accounts. Bowers, who turned up dead just days ago, brokered the loans for Epstein, sources said.

Bowers was the chief of Deutsche Bank’s Private Wealth Management division and worked from the bank’s Park Avenue offices in New York City. At Citi, Bowers served as the chief of the The Citi Private Bank and previously ran Citigroup’s Global Markets and Wealth Management businesses.

And when Bowers left Citi for Deutsche Bank, Epstein followed.

Meanwhile, Epstein stopped making payments on his millions in outstanding Citi loans. But that mattered little because Bowers approved new high-risk loans and credit lines from Deutsche Bank, sources said.

And that relationship with Epstein continued until Bowers left Deutsche Bank in 2015.  By that time, Epstein had chalked up untold millions in loans with the help of Bowers who recruited many of his top private wealth top bankers from Citi to Deutsche Bank.

The FBI who was interested in interviewing Bowers, sources confirm. The FBI subpoenaed Deutsche Bank in May for all loans and accounts linked to Epstein and there were many unanswered questions. Deutsche Bank closed out Epstein’s accounts weeks after the bank was served federal subpoenas.

Federal law enforcement officials said the FBI planned to interview all Wall Street wealth fund managers who worked for Epstein. Bowers included.

How much money did Deutsche broker for Epstein? That number to this point has proven elusive. The FBI is not talking, but one executive divulged Epstein had secured more than $60 million from Deutsche Bank’s U.S. and German arms. Likely that number is larger, but at this point the bank is keeping its exposure quiet.

Just like Bowers had brokered for Epstein at Citi, Deutsche also set the convicted pedophile up with over a dozen bank accounts that Epstein employed to receive and send wires and funds.

One banking executive said Bowers had visited Epstein on his private island at least once. Bowers had also visited Epstein in New York and attended social events at his mansion. Federal law enforcement sources did not comment about these new revelations. However, Citi executives who worked with Bowers said the bank executive maintained an active night life and enjoyed the party circuit.

Epstein also helped bring in a plethora of new business from wealthy associates to Bowers at both Deutsche Bank and Citi, sources said.

“Epstein made Bowers and his financial institutions hundreds of millions of dollars,” one executive said. “It really didn’t even matter that Epstein stiffed Citi for $30 million in defaults because he brought so much new money, new blood in. Citi made far more than it lost.”

Seems like a pattern.

Epstein brought lucrative clients into JPMorgan’s private-banking unit and was close to former head Jes Staley, who visited Epstein’s private island as recently as 2015. Leon Black, Apollo Global Management’s billionaire chairman, met with the financier from time to time at the company’s New York offices, and used Epstein for tax and philanthropic advice.

Police reportedly found Bowers hanging from a rope in his California home.

He was 55.

Previous press releases detailing Bowers’ role with the private wealth arm of Deutsche, detailed the division and its target clientele:

Deutsche Bank Private Wealth Management has been serving the interests of wealthy individuals, families and select institutions for more than a century. With offices across the U.S., Deutsche Bank’s Private Wealth Management business division provides a variety of customized solutions to private clients worldwide including traditional and alternative investments, risk management strategies, lending, trust and estate services, wealth transfer planning, family office services, custody and family and philanthropy advisory. Private Wealth Management includes the U.S. Private Bank and Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown, the private client services division of Deutsche Bank Securities Inc., the investment banking and securities arm of Deutsche Bank AG in the United States and a member of NYSE, FINRA and SIPC.

This story is developing.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 Dec 19 07:19
The yellow brick road that leads to the wizards is gradually being tarmaced over and bodies will be buried accordingly underneath
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 Dec 19 08:16
The FBI appear interested in interviewing many people in relation to this convicted pedo, however, b4 they manage to haul them in they either vanish without trace or they commit suicide Crazy
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 Dec 19 08:17
Which side of the coin will the fate of Randy Andy fall on i wonder Confused
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 19 09:03

Dec 4, 2019 -- 7:19AM, John.W.Henry. wrote:


The yellow brick road that leads to the wizards is gradually being tarmaced over and bodies will be buried accordingly underneath


I love that, brilliantly put.Wink

By:
SaveTheWhales.
When: 04 Dec 19 11:58
It is a travesty for anyone to be left with the impression an egg shaped penis is in any way normal.

Where can I send flower tributes to the dead corrupt banker who enjoyed the Epstein party circuit?
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 04 Dec 19 12:03
Try Buck House
By:
trilby22
When: 04 Dec 19 12:03

Dec 3, 2019 -- 10:28PM, casemoney wrote:


When she stayed over Epstien asked her How she Liked her Eggs in the Morning ? She was certainly in for a surprise , He was lucky she didnt say scrambled


She maybe asked for them fertilised?

By:
detraveller
When: 04 Dec 19 19:03
So it hasnt occurred to any of you yet that the video is clearly a fake?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 04 Dec 19 21:36
What came first, the chicken or egg shaped  penii?.Grin
By:
terry mccann
When: 05 Dec 19 08:32
Both together at the same time-ah isn't that lovely and all caught on cctv bless
By:
boxingthefox
When: 05 Dec 19 08:47
ShockedLaugh
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 05 Dec 19 17:26
So, his emails are headed as being from The Duke of York?  Ithe email is real, it blows his story to bits.
By:
terry mccann
When: 05 Dec 19 18:02
He says he hardly knew Epstein but is happy to admit he is great friends with the provider of very young girls Maxwell-ffs!!
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