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I would have thought that hard to do in a cell. That type of hanging is more choking, I would have thought. You need some force to break the neck. Not that I'm a conspiracy theorist or anything. 
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I think you have a point lybertyne
Hanging does break the neck, but only if a weight is attached to the feet and there is a bit of a drop
Be very difficult to do that yourself in a prison cell...one would have thought
Interesting?????????
Hanging does break the neck, but only if a weight is attached to the feet and there is a bit of a drop
Be very difficult to do that yourself in a prison cell...one would have thought
Interesting?????????
NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An autopsy of the financier Jeffrey Epstein, who died in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, found his neck had been broken in several places, according to two law enforcement sources.
Such injuries can occur to people who hang themselves or who are strangled.
Epstein was found dead in his jail cell in New York City on Saturday. The circumstances of the multi-millionaire’s death are under investigation, and it was unclear when a report of the autopsy would be made public.
One of the two law enforcement sources familiar with the Epstein case said there was no evidence or suggestion of foul play but cautioned the investigation was at an early stage.
“In all forensic investigations, all information must be synthesized to determine the cause and manner of death,” Barbara Sampson, New York City’s chief medical examiner, said in a statement on Thursday. “Everything must be consistent; no single finding can be evaluated in a vacuum.”
Epstein’s broken neck was reported earlier by the Washington Post.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons, which runs the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan where Epstein was jailed, said there had not been an inmate suicide there since 2006.
Zhongxue Hua, the Bergen County medical examiner in New Jersey, said a neck fracture was atypical in a suicide but warned not to jump to conclusions.
“It’s unusual to have a neck fracture,” Hua said. “But the first question to address is when did it occur.”
If Epstein’s neck fracture was fresh, Hua said, then “at a minimum, it’s a very unusual suicide.”
Epstein, 66, who once counted Republican President Donald Trump and Democratic former President Bill Clinton as friends, was found unresponsive in his cell on Saturday morning, according to the prison bureau.
A source told Reuters previously that he was found hanging by the neck.
Mark Epstein, who is Jeffrey Epstein’s brother, said in an interview on Thursday he had last seen his brother in the morgue on Sunday.
Jeffrey Epstein pleaded not guilty in July to charges of sex trafficking involving dozens of underage girls between 2002 and 2005. Prosecutors said he recruited and paid girls to give him massages, which became sexual in nature.
The financier had been on suicide watch at the MCC but was taken off prior to his death, according to a source who was not authorized to speak on the matter.
Epstein was alone in a cell when he was found hanging there.
Lawyers for Epstein did not respond to requests for comment.
Attorney General William Barr has said the criminal investigation into any possible co-conspirators would continue.
Barr, whose agency oversees the Bureau of Prisons, has also demanded an investigation into Epstein’s death and ordered the temporary reassignment of his jail warden.
The bureau said 20 of its inmates, including those under home confinement or in halfway houses, committed suicide in the 10 months ending in July, and 109 committed suicide in its previous five fiscal years, which end on Sept. 30.
It also said its suicide rate is lower than that for the overall U.S. population.
At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, the source said.
Separately, a team at the jail on Wednesday began an “after action” review, which is normally triggered by significant events such as a prominent inmate’s death, a person familiar with the matter said.
Such injuries can occur to people who hang themselves or who are strangled.
Epstein was found dead in his jail cell in New York City on Saturday. The circumstances of the multi-millionaire’s death are under investigation, and it was unclear when a report of the autopsy would be made public.
One of the two law enforcement sources familiar with the Epstein case said there was no evidence or suggestion of foul play but cautioned the investigation was at an early stage.
“In all forensic investigations, all information must be synthesized to determine the cause and manner of death,” Barbara Sampson, New York City’s chief medical examiner, said in a statement on Thursday. “Everything must be consistent; no single finding can be evaluated in a vacuum.”
Epstein’s broken neck was reported earlier by the Washington Post.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons, which runs the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan where Epstein was jailed, said there had not been an inmate suicide there since 2006.
Zhongxue Hua, the Bergen County medical examiner in New Jersey, said a neck fracture was atypical in a suicide but warned not to jump to conclusions.
“It’s unusual to have a neck fracture,” Hua said. “But the first question to address is when did it occur.”
If Epstein’s neck fracture was fresh, Hua said, then “at a minimum, it’s a very unusual suicide.”
Epstein, 66, who once counted Republican President Donald Trump and Democratic former President Bill Clinton as friends, was found unresponsive in his cell on Saturday morning, according to the prison bureau.
A source told Reuters previously that he was found hanging by the neck.
Mark Epstein, who is Jeffrey Epstein’s brother, said in an interview on Thursday he had last seen his brother in the morgue on Sunday.
Jeffrey Epstein pleaded not guilty in July to charges of sex trafficking involving dozens of underage girls between 2002 and 2005. Prosecutors said he recruited and paid girls to give him massages, which became sexual in nature.
The financier had been on suicide watch at the MCC but was taken off prior to his death, according to a source who was not authorized to speak on the matter.
Epstein was alone in a cell when he was found hanging there.
Lawyers for Epstein did not respond to requests for comment.
Attorney General William Barr has said the criminal investigation into any possible co-conspirators would continue.
Barr, whose agency oversees the Bureau of Prisons, has also demanded an investigation into Epstein’s death and ordered the temporary reassignment of his jail warden.
The bureau said 20 of its inmates, including those under home confinement or in halfway houses, committed suicide in the 10 months ending in July, and 109 committed suicide in its previous five fiscal years, which end on Sept. 30.
It also said its suicide rate is lower than that for the overall U.S. population.
At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, the source said.
Separately, a team at the jail on Wednesday began an “after action” review, which is normally triggered by significant events such as a prominent inmate’s death, a person familiar with the matter said.
You are right . Pierrepoint , had a formula for the necessary weight and drop needed for a quick kill . I doubt there is enough drop in a cell .
Simple question
How does one snap the neck when strangling one's self with one selfs bare hands?
Fight or flight kicks in as well, your brain is going to say no no big guy pack that in
How does one snap the neck when strangling one's self with one selfs bare hands?
Fight or flight kicks in as well, your brain is going to say no no big guy pack that in
The hyoid bone was broken. That's uncommon in suicides. Far more likely in a strangulation.
Cause of death is 'pending' because the hyoid bone was broken.
Cause of death is 'pending' because the hyoid bone was broken.
They say it was from when he jumped of the bunk bed in his cell 
they really are relying on stupidity of people to win out here
so they don't have CCTV/Video footage of him jumping the whole 3 feet to his neck snap, because the videos were down? but do they have footage of him in his cell before hand? to prove he has a bunk bed in his cell?
I can't wait to hear the excuse for that one, the dead silence one of course.
they really are relying on stupidity of people to win out here so they don't have CCTV/Video footage of him jumping the whole 3 feet to his neck snap, because the videos were down? but do they have footage of him in his cell before hand? to prove he has a bunk bed in his cell?
I can't wait to hear the excuse for that one, the dead silence one of course.
Officially ruled as suicide, these untouchables dont even care.
If I had to hide a secret, I would wrap it up in a lie. And then I would wrap it up in an even more shocking and outrageous lie. You'd think i'm trying to hide the original lie but you would never get past the more shocking and outrageous lie to get to my original lie. And during all this it will never occur to you that behind the original lie is the secret i'm protecting. You'll just stop at the lie. That's how deception works. That's how you make people not even get close to what you are protecting.
That's what happened here. Epstein was never guilty. He just ran out of favor with the guys at Illuminati. So they accused him of something you could imagine him to be. Then they killed him, knowing even when people figure it out, they'll stop at the sex charges and won't dig deeper.
This is called two-level deception.
Don't ask me how I know all this.
That's what happened here. Epstein was never guilty. He just ran out of favor with the guys at Illuminati. So they accused him of something you could imagine him to be. Then they killed him, knowing even when people figure it out, they'll stop at the sex charges and won't dig deeper.
This is called two-level deception.
Don't ask me how I know all this.
What a load of rubbish, the guy killed himself ,no choice ,government played thier hand ,let’s make this a conspiracy, just to keep the sheep from seeing the real world
Probabilty of noteworthy world event leading to a chit chat conspiracy by the usual suspects is 100%, we know that by now.
The fact its been put out there makes it a "conspiracy theory", they want people talking about it
If they didn't it wouldn't have seen the light of day
What I will say though is they've scrubbed all photos of him and the Clintons together off the net apparently, which is another conspiracy theorists wet dream.
Fact is he's dead and so what? it doesn't alter the fact these bas*ards need arresting on masse does it
If they didn't it wouldn't have seen the light of day
What I will say though is they've scrubbed all photos of him and the Clintons together off the net apparently, which is another conspiracy theorists wet dream.
Fact is he's dead and so what? it doesn't alter the fact these bas*ards need arresting on masse does it
Once the obvious questions get asked though they soon bury it within the mainstream media
They only want people talking about doctored pics, whether its actually him on the gurni
People fall for it every single time
They only want people talking about doctored pics, whether its actually him on the gurni
People fall for it every single time
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