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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tate-modern-incident-teenager-arrested-after-child-falls-from-height-at-central-london-gallery-a4205091.html
6 year old on a day out . unbelievable
6 year old on a day out . unbelievable
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"I heard the impact and then screaming from above as a woman screamed 'he’s my son! He’s my son!.'"
His poor Mother
His poor Mother
looks like the wee lad fell 5 floors which is far enough and is in critical ...so praying he makes a recovery ... as you say horrific experience for the boy's lass .. 
older boy not known to the lad
older boy not known to the lad
Absolutely heartbreaking , 17 year old suspected of attempted murder
Been a spate of people being pushed in front of trains lately
macarony • August 4, 2019 7:30 PM BST
Been a spate of people being pushed in front of trains lately
oooooh , a trend , I do sooooooo love a trend
Been a spate of people being pushed in front of trains lately
oooooh , a trend , I do sooooooo love a trend
Utter madness .. the 17 year old will not be named and what sort of sentence will he get ... nowhere near what it should be
some unfathomable stuff going on ,as far as naming the guy ,not sure whats best ,these 2 crazy shooters in USA been named,but is that playing into their hands ,is fame one of the reasons they do it ?? I just dont know anymore.
After doing it the kid apparently just stood there calmly like nothing happened.
Product of an ever increasing overcrowded USA the population has gone from around 190 million in 1970 to 350 plus million today.
Massive demographic change has lead to a nervous population who feel they are being marginalised by a powerful elite. Things are going to get a lot worse before if ever they get better
Massive demographic change has lead to a nervous population who feel they are being marginalised by a powerful elite. Things are going to get a lot worse before if ever they get better
Quite a miracle the kid is still alive dropping 5 floors.
My psychiatry degree is still in the post but since there is no rational explanation for this -- not robbery or rape or even terrorism -- surely mental illness must be favourite. (Assuming reports the boy was thrown are correct. The witness reports I've seen do not mention that but perhaps the ones who directly saw the incident were taken to the police station to make statements and were therefore unavailable to reporters.)
A six-year-old boy is in a critical but stable condition after he was "thrown" from the 10th floor of the Tate Modern art gallery in London.
The Met Police said there was nothing to suggest he was known to the victim and officers were still trying to "establish the circumstances of yesterday's incident".
A force spokesman added the child was "no longer in a life-threatening situation".
The Met Police said there was nothing to suggest he was known to the victim and officers were still trying to "establish the circumstances of yesterday's incident".
A force spokesman added the child was "no longer in a life-threatening situation".
Not out of the woods yet but good news so far. Fingers crossed no brain damage.
A six-year-old boy who was "thrown" from the 10th floor of the Tate Modern art gallery was a French national visiting London with his family.
The Met Police said it was treating the "truly shocking incident" as an "isolated event with no distinct or apparent motive".
The Met Police said it was treating the "truly shocking incident" as an "isolated event with no distinct or apparent motive".
Sounds like they are covering up for someone so I am guessing it's one of our new Britons
A 17 year old assailant,if not mental health it may well be a cannabis user or anti depressant user,seems to be a frequent explanation that comes out after the speculation settles down.
I hope the t*at who did it gets his just rewards ...
Sickening.
Not a violent bloke but i would wanna kill anyone who did this to my grandchild.
Not a violent bloke but i would wanna kill anyone who did this to my grandchild.
Are there any descriptions of the attacker?
was he a Goth? or Ginger?
Building a mental picture... 
was he a Goth? or Ginger?
Building a mental picture...
Police Appealing for people who have seen a Youth acting Strangely in the Area in the Previous 2 hours . Well it might fooking help if they put a Picture up of the Sick twisted animal .
Nancy Barnfield said she and her two young sons were stalked on the viewing platform by a stranger only seconds before the horrifying incident. The 47-year-old from Rochdale was so alarmed that she warned her children to avoid him.
She said: 'He followed us around everywhere. I told my kids to stay away from that man, it went on for ages. He was acting so weird. He had his hands behind his back the whole time, his back to the wall, just watching people. We walked away from him then immediately when he was out of sight a woman was screaming 'My son, my son' and people were grabbing him.'
The child was snatched from his mother's arms by a stranger who hurled him over a barrier on the tenth floor.
She said the suspect was tall, white and bearded and became 'completely calm and silent' when detained by gallery visitors. 'He didn't fight back, didn't shout or anything,' she added. 'He was just emotionless.'
Last night it was reported that when asked why he had thrown the boy over the railing, the suspect had responded that it was the fault of social services. The witness added that a bystander then punched the suspect in the face before he was led to a toilet for his own protection.
She said: 'He followed us around everywhere. I told my kids to stay away from that man, it went on for ages. He was acting so weird. He had his hands behind his back the whole time, his back to the wall, just watching people. We walked away from him then immediately when he was out of sight a woman was screaming 'My son, my son' and people were grabbing him.'
The child was snatched from his mother's arms by a stranger who hurled him over a barrier on the tenth floor.
She said the suspect was tall, white and bearded and became 'completely calm and silent' when detained by gallery visitors. 'He didn't fight back, didn't shout or anything,' she added. 'He was just emotionless.'
Last night it was reported that when asked why he had thrown the boy over the railing, the suspect had responded that it was the fault of social services. The witness added that a bystander then punched the suspect in the face before he was led to a toilet for his own protection.
What's the odds the punching bystander gets sued?
Sounds like this was avoidable what are the security staff looking for?
Sounds like this was avoidable what are the security staff looking for?
DenzilPenberthy • August 6, 2019 1:05 AM BST
What's the odds the punching bystander gets sued?
............ Possible but I wouldn't be in the least surprised if they appeal for witnesses to the assault issuing a full description of the assailant rather than the 'suspicious acting' youth
What's the odds the punching bystander gets sued?
............ Possible but I wouldn't be in the least surprised if they appeal for witnesses to the assault issuing a full description of the assailant rather than the 'suspicious acting' youth
The suspect was tall, white and bearded, with some sort of grudge against social services. The description does not actually say nutty as a fruitcake but that is the obvious inference. The man who punched him was obviously a prat since the suspect had already been detained at that point. It is unlikely this is the first man he's punched.
Let us hope le garçon français makes a full recovery.
Let us hope le garçon français makes a full recovery.
On a day Release from a Secure Unit , should have had 2 Minders with him
Name and History of Individual should be Released ,that wont happen ,and there will be history .
But as long as he got his day out , that is the Main thing ....
Had been stalking the balcony for some time prior to the Lad being thrown over
Name and History of Individual should be Released ,that wont happen ,and there will be history .
But as long as he got his day out , that is the Main thing ....
Had been stalking the balcony for some time prior to the Lad being thrown over
Description I found was 5 foot 10 and stocky , Maybe there was a mob of them out for the day .
due for trial @ the Old Bailey on 22nd August. That's sharpish is it not?
That is very quick.
It still seems to be unclear as to whether he gave escort staff the slip whilst accompanied on a day out or absconded from the unit without the knowledge of carers.
In any case, I hope someone at the unit is called to account.
From The Sun:
A former carer who worked with the alleged attacker last year told The Sun: “He’s one of the most difficult and challenging mental patients I’ve ever encountered.
"He is stockily built and gets angry when he is denied something that he wants or is told what to do.
“He’s not allowed out unless accompanied by at least two support staff.
“He’s also intelligent. I watched an edition of the TV quiz show The Chase with him once and he answered every single question correctly.
“Something must have gone seriously wrong at the Tate because he’s not allowed out unless accompanied by at least two support staff.
"There will have to be a serious inquiry into what he was doing there.”
Police were investigating whether the teenager absconded from his unit or bolted from staff escorting him on a day trip.
A Met spokesman confirmed: “Mental health is being explored as a line of inquiry.”
It still seems to be unclear as to whether he gave escort staff the slip whilst accompanied on a day out or absconded from the unit without the knowledge of carers.
In any case, I hope someone at the unit is called to account.
From The Sun:
A former carer who worked with the alleged attacker last year told The Sun: “He’s one of the most difficult and challenging mental patients I’ve ever encountered.
"He is stockily built and gets angry when he is denied something that he wants or is told what to do.
“He’s not allowed out unless accompanied by at least two support staff.
“He’s also intelligent. I watched an edition of the TV quiz show The Chase with him once and he answered every single question correctly.
“Something must have gone seriously wrong at the Tate because he’s not allowed out unless accompanied by at least two support staff.
"There will have to be a serious inquiry into what he was doing there.”
Police were investigating whether the teenager absconded from his unit or bolted from staff escorting him on a day trip.
A Met spokesman confirmed: “Mental health is being explored as a line of inquiry.”
As for the claim regarding The Chase; if you believe that, I've got a nice bridge near the Tower of London I'd like to sell you at a knock-down price.
they probably want this done & dusted as quick as poss. He's in their books so no need for a 6 month admin collation. Internal bolloxings that we will never hear about; under 18 so no one can question them about him. A right little done & dust job
Sounds like the true responsibility lies with those who were supposed to be looking after him. If someone has a Staffie that they let off-lead and it attacks people, the owner is responsible. Same applies here.
macarony 05 Aug 19 18:41
Sounds like they are covering up for someone so I am guessing it's one of our new Britons
What are you implying macarony?
Sounds like they are covering up for someone so I am guessing it's one of our new Britons
What are you implying macarony?
Sounds grim for le petit garcon.
Prosecutor Sian Morgan told the court the boy survived the fall after landing on a fifth floor roof, but has suffered a “deep bleed to the brain”.
“He suffered very serious injuries and is currently in hospital”, she said. “He has injuries to his brain, and fractures to his spine, legs and arms”.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tate-modern-victim-6-suffered-brain-in...
Prosecutor Sian Morgan told the court the boy survived the fall after landing on a fifth floor roof, but has suffered a “deep bleed to the brain”.
“He suffered very serious injuries and is currently in hospital”, she said. “He has injuries to his brain, and fractures to his spine, legs and arms”.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/tate-modern-victim-6-suffered-brain-in...
A six-year-old boy who fell from the 10th floor of the Tate Modern fractured his spine, a court has heard.
The French national, who was visiting London with his family, was found on a fifth-floor roof after he fell from the Tate's viewing platform on Sunday.
Prosecutors told Bromley Youth Court he also suffered a bleed to the brain and fractures to his legs and arms.
The French national, who was visiting London with his family, was found on a fifth-floor roof after he fell from the Tate's viewing platform on Sunday.
Prosecutors told Bromley Youth Court he also suffered a bleed to the brain and fractures to his legs and arms.
Nobody sane will throw a six year old boy off the tenth floor. Very sad all round and scary! Nobody reported or had time to report their fears. Some visitors at the Tate saw him and picked up on the danger.
Aug 6, 2019 -- 7:13AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
macarony 05 Aug 19 18:41 Sounds like they are covering up for someone so I am guessing it's one of our new BritonsWhat are you implying macarony?
If the reactionaries on here dont get the full story IMMEDIATELY, it has to be a cover up rather than other legal reasons or to not impact a case. It was pathetic stuff from a whole bunch of the same people in the thread about the young girl murdered in scotland a while back too.
The French seem to have been bothered by something recently. Day before yesterday a french couple drove their car down an underground train entrance in munich thinking it was underground parking.
Hope my good buddy Just Checking can drop back in this thread to call out Macarony for politicising an attempted murder
I wonder if the People interested in Integrating this thing back into Society with its little days out, would have their family members present at his Outings , Our do gooder friends who are all for Diversity and integration as long as it is fooking miles away from them , Lets see why he was let out , because it is 1.01 he is and has been one dangerous basterd ..
But Hey Ho all our luvvie luvvies love everyone one
But Hey Ho all our luvvie luvvies love everyone one
2 other incidents on news yesterday,cardiff man schitzo killed his son in law by stabbing him 20 times, held in secure hospital in cambridge decided not to return over the weekend after being left out to go shopping, and another in wales left out for a few hours returned to his parents home to kill himself in the garage.
Sixty six-year-old Peter Atkins from Llandaff, left his psychiatric hospital in Cambridgeshire after being released on a day visit.
In 2001, Mr Atkins killed his pregnant daughter's husband while he slept beside her in their bedroom.
Convicted killer, Peter Atkins on the run from the police
In 2001 Mr Atkins was convicted for stabbing his daughter's husband Credit: Cambridgeshire Police
The Mirror reported that he burst into the bedroom of his daughter Lisa Provoost, and stabbed her husband of eight months more than 20 times with a sheath knife.
Stephen Provoost, a 32-year-old social worker, died almost immediately.
Mr Atkins suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and had been given an indefinite hospital order under the Mental Health Act after being convicted of manslaughter.
The attack was called "mind chilling" by Judge John Griffith Williams at Cardiff Crown Court, according to the Telegraph.
Atkins left Kneesworth House Hospital in Cambridgeshire last Thursday when he was let out to shop at a local Tesco store.
Peter Atkins shopping in Tesco after being let on a day visit
Police have launched a second appeal after being no where closer to finding him Credit: Cambridgeshire Police
Police launched an initial appeal on Friday after he was reported missing.
On Sunday they issued a second appeal after they said they were no closer to finding him.
He is described as a white man of a stocky build, with short grey hair wearing black trainers, blue jeans and a white or black t-shirt.
Detective Inspector, Dave Savill said it is "out of character" for Mr Atkins to not return.
We know he was seen withdrawing cash at Royston Tesco at 2.10pm and then travelled to Royston town centre by bus, getting off outside Morrisons supermarket in Baldock Street.
– DETECTIVE INSPECTOR, DAVE SAVILL
Mr Atkins is on twice-daily medication for paranoid schizophrenia and police said he may become "aggressive or irritable without his treatment."
Police are warning he should not be approached.
It is very important for anyone who believes they may have seen Peter to contact us as a matter of urgency.
– CAMBRIDGESHIRE POLICE
It is believed he may have used the rail network to travel from Royston.
Police said Mr Atkins could be anywhere in the country but has links to South Wales.
The public are urged not to approach him but instead call 999 immediately due to his unpredictable nature.
Anyone with information on his whereabouts should call Cambridgeshire police on 101.
In 2001, Mr Atkins killed his pregnant daughter's husband while he slept beside her in their bedroom.
Convicted killer, Peter Atkins on the run from the police
In 2001 Mr Atkins was convicted for stabbing his daughter's husband Credit: Cambridgeshire Police
The Mirror reported that he burst into the bedroom of his daughter Lisa Provoost, and stabbed her husband of eight months more than 20 times with a sheath knife.
Stephen Provoost, a 32-year-old social worker, died almost immediately.
Mr Atkins suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and had been given an indefinite hospital order under the Mental Health Act after being convicted of manslaughter.
The attack was called "mind chilling" by Judge John Griffith Williams at Cardiff Crown Court, according to the Telegraph.
Atkins left Kneesworth House Hospital in Cambridgeshire last Thursday when he was let out to shop at a local Tesco store.
Peter Atkins shopping in Tesco after being let on a day visit
Police have launched a second appeal after being no where closer to finding him Credit: Cambridgeshire Police
Police launched an initial appeal on Friday after he was reported missing.
On Sunday they issued a second appeal after they said they were no closer to finding him.
He is described as a white man of a stocky build, with short grey hair wearing black trainers, blue jeans and a white or black t-shirt.
Detective Inspector, Dave Savill said it is "out of character" for Mr Atkins to not return.
We know he was seen withdrawing cash at Royston Tesco at 2.10pm and then travelled to Royston town centre by bus, getting off outside Morrisons supermarket in Baldock Street.
– DETECTIVE INSPECTOR, DAVE SAVILL
Mr Atkins is on twice-daily medication for paranoid schizophrenia and police said he may become "aggressive or irritable without his treatment."
Police are warning he should not be approached.
It is very important for anyone who believes they may have seen Peter to contact us as a matter of urgency.
– CAMBRIDGESHIRE POLICE
It is believed he may have used the rail network to travel from Royston.
Police said Mr Atkins could be anywhere in the country but has links to South Wales.
The public are urged not to approach him but instead call 999 immediately due to his unpredictable nature.
Anyone with information on his whereabouts should call Cambridgeshire police on 101.
"" out of character not to return " and "may become aggressive ", unbelievable
I simply love the usual trotting out of the standard warning "Should not be approached" .
Basically it's perfectly fine for someone who is deemed sufficiently dangerous so as "not to be approached" to be out and about mingling with peaceful citizens going about their weekly shop provided nobody is foolish enough to 'approach' them . Surely this warning should be issued prior to their absconding by means of a warning either printed on their back or tattooed on their forehead or maybe an audible warning such as one gets on reversing vehicles .
I doubt very much he would have been given leave to shop in Waitrose but given his clear preference for Tesco he was probably considered a risk only to the hoi polloi
Basically it's perfectly fine for someone who is deemed sufficiently dangerous so as "not to be approached" to be out and about mingling with peaceful citizens going about their weekly shop provided nobody is foolish enough to 'approach' them . Surely this warning should be issued prior to their absconding by means of a warning either printed on their back or tattooed on their forehead or maybe an audible warning such as one gets on reversing vehicles .
I doubt very much he would have been given leave to shop in Waitrose but given his clear preference for Tesco he was probably considered a risk only to the hoi polloi
The evil P.O.S. who killed that kid in Scotland is appealing his sentence. The fact he's getting let out at all is wrong, never mind the "injustice" of him being middle aged before he is. FFS. Who would trust human garbage like that to not do something similar again? Anyone?
seems hes getting a thorough pshyciatric tests befor the trial, um so these people dont get a thorough tests before letting out then
Has the Metropolitan Police Fortune Telling Squad looked into their crystal b@lls yet and concluded 'mental illness' ?
the August 22nd trial date has been put back until the New Year
I can't imagine there was ever going to be an August 22nd trial. It would just have been the date scheduled for a court appearance and was then misreported.
My guess,
Somebody's told him he has to get a job or in general "start to stand on his own two feet"...
After some consideration... I'll give them a good reason why i cant.
Me Thinks prison life aint gonna compare to the cushy care system he's used to..
Somebody's told him he has to get a job or in general "start to stand on his own two feet"...
After some consideration... I'll give them a good reason why i cant.
Me Thinks prison life aint gonna compare to the cushy care system he's used to..
Aug 9, 2019 -- 10:59AM, Emitdeb wrote:
My guess, Somebody's told him he has to get a job or in general "start to stand on his own two feet"... After some consideration... I'll give them a good reason why i cant. Me Thinks prison life aint gonna compare to the cushy care system he's used to..
The one in my family chose staged suicide attempts and fake mental illness and after many years of being validated for drug addiction,crime etc. he got his big break when he eventually cracked the sickness benefit code and has his life paid for as a pretendee loony.
shoot him in the face
no loss to society
Maybe we should have lost the war... this would have been standard...
no loss to society
Maybe we should have lost the war... this would have been standard...
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