Gunman opens fire on Texas shopping center

He's been polarised

1 step from radicalised

is there no way of shutting down the message boards like 8chan down???

nellie1970 04 Aug 19 23:02 
people are moaning why the white shooter in El PASO was not gunned down but was arrested in a peaceful manner claiming if shooter was black he would have been gunned down

He had run out of ammunition when the police arrived; no shoot-out, he just put his hands up.

Trumpton to give statement tomorrow morning 10.00 am local time

yes i know TT but they still are asking why he was not gunned down because a black man would have not been taken alive they say

What I find amazing about posters like fife and pop is they cannot understand basic English comprehension and they do not understand posts, deliberately misinterpret posts, put words into people's mouths, and state what other people are thinking when they have no idea what they are thinking.

Pointing out that an insanely shocking **** like Sopel is totally unprofessional, biased, has his own personal agenda at the front of every broadcast, and isn't fit to work for a serious broadcaster like the BBC that is supposed to by charter not be biased is not "defending Trump". They are totally different things. It might appear to be in the simplistic world of the left where everyone they disagree with is a racist/fascist, but it's not true.

Aug 4, 2019 -- 11:04PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

What is "a warped sense of racial hatred"?How does it differ from a normal sense of racial hatred?

Surely you don't need it spelling out the difference between somebody who calls Mexicans lazy and someone who tries to shoot dozens of them you are being silly again.

For example

Or the type that prays in the mosque and attends Sharia and Wahhabi lectures but takes your money in the corner shop with contempt and an occasional thankyou from thoses that strap bombs to their backs and blow themselves up in crowds.

*those

Feel free to argue they are the same and one isn't more warped or twisted than the other.

I think he's dozed off, Den.

Everybody needs to calm down.

And a small request, for the next mass shooting, please don't write gunman opens fire. I've been reading it as German opens fire... for two days now.

Just write Gunperson ffs. How hard is it?

So you do agree, tjis is someone deliberately trying to kill Mexicans specifically.  ie a racially motivated attack.

Aug 4, 2019 -- 11:24PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

So you do agree, tjis is someone deliberately trying to kill Mexicans specifically.

Please read the posts.

Chicago this weekend at least 3 dead and 40 wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/04/weekend-shootings-chicago-2/

no national coverage just local coverage for a couple of minutes

this happens every week but obviously these victims do not care to the main stream media

One thing drives Muslim Terrorists it is HATE

One thing drives White Extremists it is also called HATE

In fact anybody who does this sort of thing is driven by HATE


HATE in men can result in the most extreme acts of violence.

One thing men are good at is violence


We must find ways of reducing the HATE or the violence will continue to grow.

Because that is the way we are made.

Was surprised to find out there'd been 200+ mass shootings already this year,presumably no gang violence is included in these numbers as the gang shootings will be in the 1000s.

Give us a toke on that, Regy.

They seem very selective nelly a bit like here.

Aug 4, 2019 -- 11:31PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:

Was surprised to find out there'd been 200+ mass shootings already this year,presumably no gang violence is included in these numbers as the gang shootings will be in the 1000s.

That's an average sort of year in the USA

Ohio was the 250th mass shooting according to the Mayor of Dayton

Was 200 and something last year.

should have said the 250th mass shooting this year

Aug 4, 2019 -- 11:33PM, mouse muldoon wrote:

Was 200 and something last year.

Wiki has the total as 323 mass shootings for 2018 with 387 killed and 1274 injured.
So far in 2019 they have 252 mass shootings 282 killed 1047 wounded.

Staggering numbers without the gang and other crimes.

Yeah, usually averages almost 1 a day.

CNN saying police found evidence Ohio shooter wanted to kill people in his home but no White Supremacist material so far

HIS sisters boyfriend or friend survived the attack

We're only just into August so we are ahead of the game this year.

the place is damn huge; the amount of guns available huge. There is still an underground gun selling institution. The authorities have no idea just how many firearms are about. You cannot stop the owning of guns, whether illegal or legal. We all know about the NRA , but does everyone know just how powerful they really are? Most of that country was born out of war; & i'm not talking 2000 years ago with spears and gladius. It is in their DNA. You cannot stop it, no matter how much bleating  agenda pushing & vote grabbing is tried. No President would ever try to stop it. The only single ray of light may be, & it's a massive maybe - is the banning of automatic rifles. The NRA would fight that tooth & nail but; & again it's a massive Kim-like butt there may be some sort of bribe-compromise. I wouldn't hold my breath too long though

My prediction would be it'll get worse given the notoriety these loony tunes receive and the amount of impressionable attention cravers over there,we've all heard of copycat killers think this could be the same.
Might also be the reason why we haven't heard as much about alot of these other incidents.

Denzil, I have been  reading. I'm just trying to pin your opinion down.

You say he's a lunatic, then say maybe only somewhat lunatic. You keep mentioning muslims, though I'm not sure why.

Just what is your opinion on what's caused this man to commit these killings in this place? How does it work with the evidence we have? We know he's a young, white man
We know he's posted anti-immigrant sentiments online too.

So what do you think is behind it?

a toke mouse?

I can only explain the problem, I don't have the solution

Some terrorists believe they are fighting for a cause, but some of the things they do seem to show great HATE to me

I thing we underestimate the capacity for violence in ALL men, it needs to be dealt with.

An inhalation of your jazz cigarette, please.

legislation for a ban on automatic guns ran out in 2004

no President since has been unable to get the ban passed again

mouse

PP he may have had a Mexican g/f & she dumped him, so he hates Mexicans for a couple of weeks. Then he gets his ass kicked by a chines gay travelling salesman & his fury turns towards gay or asians or both. Nutters are nutters; whatever race or religion. All that can be different is what sparks the wire

That is it Nellie, Presidents wont pass unpopular legislation into law, may cost them their position?


I think they should be banned.

He may of eaten an obscenely fiery jalapeno, Bap.

PP

Of course I can agree that a murderer can be described as a racist and his motives could've been racist that's never a doubt,to go as far as what he's done is the actions of a psycopath albeit one with a warped sense of racial hatred.

Is that not enough? Anything on top of that would be me making things up which isn't going to happen.
You'd be better served removing your racial victim glasses as your preconceived judgement spoils actual discussion.

true Bap, the common factor is very alienated MEN

i don't know why i bothered saying it was a massive BUTT! You would think i'd said it was going to happen

The rise in violence is linked to exposure to violence in film and video games etc , the internet is becoming a very great source for evil and very strict censorship should be introduced as in China ( although not for political reasons or to curtail free speech )

What woke you up ....lfc ?

had  recorded the football , charity shield , and women’s British open golf earlier so was just watching that the leopard , golf was superb ,
it’s late , nite nite

nite...

Aug 4, 2019 -- 11:04PM, fife wrote:

What I find amazing about posters like Just Checking is that when Trump became President they said they did not particularly like his rhetoric but thought him the lesser of two evils compared to Hillary Clinton. Now his rhetoric and lies have became more extreme over the last couple of years and yet they defend him even more .

Because they became more reactionary, they have no principles just like people like Trump upsetting libs

Aug 5, 2019 -- 1:17AM, lfc1971 wrote:

The rise in violence is linked to exposure to violence in film and video games etc , the internet is becoming a very great source for evil and very strict censorship should be introduced as in China ( although not for political reasons or to curtail free speech )

Gonna regret biting on this garbage like usual but obviously false but it's easy to just complain about this rather than addressing actual issues

Which is ?

You’re going to blame Trump , or someone other sensible politician ?

Any mass shootings before Trump became president ?

America has been heavily armed since the country was founded . Even during the Great Depression you didn’t see mass shootings everyday
society has become unglued changed

Wasn't there a case where a bloke went back to the great depression in a time machine with his assault rifle? I read about it somewhere.

Ban assault rifles of course madness that they are freely available
Mexico 94 killings a day , beheadings etc
See what’s happening in Brazilian jails ?

Why do you assume that America will be any different , it’s the culture of violence

That wasn’t the case in the mainstream either in America or Britain as recently as the 50s or 60s

You gotta reap , just what you sow
Lou Reed

Aug 5, 2019 -- 8:34AM, lfc1971 wrote:

You’re going to blame Trump , or someone other sensible politician ?

Trump, amongst many others are to blame yes.

he has mainstreamed the radicalism of white nationalists who are far braver in expressing it now

lfc would have been one of those definitely blaming Marilyn Manson for columbine

The USA is an extremely competitive Capitalist country, with competition in evrything

Quite a large country with very different values.

I think sometimes people can easily become alienated from such a society

So they want to go out with an act of REVENGE on the society which has rejected them


The fact they seem to be able to purchase automatic weapons to do this is sad

22 now confirmed dead after hospital death

All innocent deaths of course...just in the wrong place at the wrong time

Chit chat needs to move on from this. Iran has quietly taken over two more oil transporters while you guys were busy dealing with the Texan.

Iran is subject to terrorism by the USA...Economic terrorism.

Why on earth are we involved? Why did we pirate one of their tankers? What do you expect them to do? They are desperate!

What CNN won`t tell you;

nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/

I mean they did but also unsurprisingly Tim misses the point and thinks this about two killers, one who was a white nationalist and the other who was far left and that is about it.

One might think his history of violence and misogyny at school was a far stronger indicator but antifa!! gonna get the clicks

Of course shitheads like this exist on the left, it's only reactionaries like tim who make things up to claim the left say they dont

Also, despite all the wild ravings to the contrary by reactionaries Antifa is absolutely not supported by anyone meaningful in the democratic party while white nationalist rhetoric is repeated by GOP politicians regularly and the current admin is sympathetic to them

Sitting Democrat Cortez , and her friends refused to condemn Antifa after an attack on an immigration facility
They were asked if they would condemn the violence , and refused

a lefty trait, lfc. Selective memory

I think the world is growing ever more violent...the reasons are complex

By nature Human Beings are extremely violent...worse than any other animal on the planet

aaronh 07 Aug 19 07:43 
I mean they did but also unsurprisingly Tim misses the point and thinks this about two killers, one who was a white nationalist and the other who was far left and that is about it ... it's only reactionaries like tim who make things up to claim the left say they dont


Did you see it on CNN? No.
Did you see it on NBC? No
Did you see it on MSNBC? No.

Are you just assuming they would obviously give his political motivation equal weight as the El Paso shooter? They didn`t, they won`t, just another aspect of `Fake News`.
And `far right` means `white nationalist`, but `far left` just means `far left`? CHORTLE!!!
Lastly, I think you`ll find that antifa is supported by virtually every dem, with CNN, and don lemon in particular, being cheerleaders for them.

Lemon is a disgrace to Broadcasting in general; not just CNN

for all we go on about CH4 - The Beeb - Sky presenters; Lemon is in a different class & realm to anyone else with agendas

i'm sorry, do i know you? You seem a tad angry for a leftie numpty

He's the bloke who sweeps your chimneys.

that would explain his "sudden" arrival on Chit Chat lately then

Sorry Dave, there goes your fiver tip this xmas.

Someone selected the wrong log in name no doubt

aye, i was thinking that. Now let me see; whose bottom have a spanked on here? Could just be a time of the month attack i suppose; not the usual sniper attack. I will give him/her their due though; they've been patient, as i seem to recall the arrival of chimney sweep dave about a month ago

I have noticed we are getting conflicting eye witness accounts from the crime scene regarding the number of shooters there actually were !!!

I feel sure this will be quickly cleared up by the extensive CCTV cameras Walmart would obviously have in operation !!!! Unless of course they had temporarily failed ???

I'm outta here...

Y.A.W.N.

Best you make a move since your outrageous lie about the london 7/7 bombings being fake. You simply cannot be taken seriously

Aug 7, 2019 -- 1:22PM, Baphornet wrote:

that would explain his "sudden" arrival on Chit Chat lately then

I've been here for a while unlike yourself, well unlike yourself in your present incarnation. Why were you banned?

on Chit Chat - numpty!

I say make the punishment fit the crime,the El Paso shooter ,put him in a cell or on a block with a load of Hispanic prisoners,see
how tough he is then.No he will be kept in seclusion for his own protection ,no doubt ,its all wrong ,let him suffer for robbing these innocent people of their lives.

just to add; if you fancy your chances of having a go at me, open a new topic up & i will oblige you. This isn't a topic to spoil with trolling

No he will be kept in seclusion for his own protection ,no doubt ,its all wrong ,let him suffer for robbing these innocent people of their lives.

Agreed, same for Yaxley!

What's going many posts seem missing?

It's not difficult to understand that the more guns the more shootings. Unless the US reduces the amount of guns then mass killings will increase.

Aug 7, 2019 -- 2:22PM, snowynoon wrote:

I say make the punishment fit the crime,the El Paso shooter ,put him in a cell or on a block with a load of Hispanic prisoners,seehow tough he is then.No he will be kept in seclusion for his own protection ,no doubt ,its all wrong ,let him suffer for robbing these innocent people of their lives.

Just daft

"See how tough he is then"

Of course not very tough , he's on his own ffs, he acted alone of course but you stick him with a loan of Hispanics unarmed, in a prison of course he's going to not be very tough, strength in numbers. So some peoples solutions are to basically hand them a death penalty and do so in the horriblest type of way as well, what about a right to be able to have a chance to defend one's self?

People who say that are pretty clueless in my opinion

Shows how gutless and spineless society is today, they just wanna throw people to the wolves in some sort of Running Man game show scenario

And then take the moral high ground

Its going to cause a massive war if you start doing that

And what next? arresting people (mainly white men) for "hate speech", sticking them all in none white prisons as well? Just because they can?

Sorry this isn't going to end well, its going to get bloody

These people don't want to talk, they want to demonise you and throw you in jail. They are absolutely mental trust me, there's no appeasing this crowd so don't even try.

"white privilege + white male anger = death"

I mean seriously? and this was a white woman spouting this as well, how the f*** can you reason with that? you can't

pitchfork to the chest

Just a pin-pr*ck !