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Charlie
01 Aug 19 15:56
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I've always believed in Darwinism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noj4phMT9OE

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By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 15:58
I found this fascinating with three anti-Darwinists who argue their points eloquently.
By:
The Leopard
When: 01 Aug 19 16:16
Nutters !
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 16:26
Maybe be well-argued eloquent nutters. I wouldn't like to take them on and disprove what they're saying.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 16:27
but no be
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 16:28
I give up on that sentence.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 16:28
I'm enjoying this thanks.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 16:28
You're very welcome.
By:
The Leopard
When: 01 Aug 19 16:41
His cup of tea....he means !
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 17:03
Will be watching it in sections the first 22 odd minutes was eye opening regarding the number of potential possible combos for the cell mutations creating living organisms highlighting how simplistic Darwin's theory was though not by his own fault but the limited knowledge of the times.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 17:04
They were very intelligent.

The basis of their argument is that life could not have developed through a random sequencing of genes

which gave rise to advantages in a species, so that they gradually changed into other species. Although it accounts for small changes

within a species, longer beak, etc.

I think??


They are arguing for intelligent design. Something was ordering the sequencing. It was not random as Darwin proposed.

Which brings us back to GOD. They are arguing against the creation of new species by chance, because the environment favoured them.


They are using science to prove this...I don't know if the biological sciences in general are moving in this direction
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 17:07
Good summary and I'll have to watch it again a few times.
By:
EvgenyKissin
When: 01 Aug 19 17:09
Congratulations today Charlie. An exceptional performance.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 17:14
Thank you.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 17:16
I agree with that.

They are not disrespecting Darwin at all. For his time Darwin did well, they all agree on that.

But we know more know.

They are saying species cannot randomly develop form other species, it would never survive the change.

So they are proposing intelligent design of some sort, directing the changes needed.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 17:18
I really don't want to believe what they are saying but can't argue against them right now.
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 17:19
I have a few ideas but wouldn't want to commit to them until I've watched the video a few times or read the book.
By:
dave1357
When: 01 Aug 19 18:08
The wealthy US creationist lobby love Berlinski's work - he hit their nail on the head.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 19:32
Most of us don't know enough to either agree with or contradict them....as we are not experts in their field

Darwin was definitely a step forward from the Bible that is for sure...

Whether he had it all right or not, I don't really know
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 19:32
Having looked at a few more videos by the Hoover Institution not so sure about how balanced they are. Still looking.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 19:33
hmmmm???
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 19:35
It was interesting anyway
By:
Charlie
When: 01 Aug 19 19:46
I think I'm out of my depth with their videos. I'll try again though.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 20:18
not the only one Charlie

However

If we say  evolution is directed by Intelligent Design

The next question would be....what is the purpose of this intelligent Design?


If there is no Intelligent Design

We just have a set of evolutionary rules working on a starting point

Also we have no idea as yet as, to how life started


It is tricky
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 01 Aug 19 20:58
To really understand this one needs to be going to University and studying evolution

These guys are focussing on a statistical glitch

They are saying that the chance of say a new type cell evolving from an existing type of cell, needs to get an awful lot right first

time.

Amino acids amongst other things, if you don't get this right, no new type of cell will be produced.

They are saying th odds  for this to happen randomley are too high  there has to be some intelligent direction.


I am sure there are other answers to this tbh, not that we know what they aree????????

I found it entertaining.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 21:02
Like these programmes about 'chance' and the relarively unknown like how the Universe came to exist fascinating stuff.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 21:17
evolution as moved on since Darwin...…..evolution is fact and those 3 people are nutjobs
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 21:21
How can evolution have moved on it's evolving as it's always done.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 21:28
denzil………..Darwin got things wrong...………..schools DONT teach Darwinism...……..they just teach evolution
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 21:39
My school didn't teach anything beyond Catholic religion and my pals got taught Creationism and former partner evolution,their will without doubt parts of Darwins theories that cross over with the teaching of Evolution what they are for sure I couldn't say without looking but I'd have everything I own on Natural selection featuring heavily.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 21:45
denzil……..surprised you went to school
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 21:47
denzil…………….you should read the bible...…..start at exodus 20...………..I can say with certainty  you will love it
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 01 Aug 19 21:48
Movement of Jah People
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 21:50
portman is the forum Christianaphobe as evidenced on the Boxing Forum and now this thread,hate is not good pp even socially acceptable hate such as this.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 21:51
sorry denzil………….exodus 21
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 21:54
You can go to jail for such a rhetoric portman there might be a Christian lurking who decides to invest a few bob on a legal battle some have the means and motive to do so,you never know who's watching.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 01 Aug 19 21:57
I thought you said it was the other lot you weren't aloud to have a pop at.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 22:00
denzil religion is nonsense...…..hope this helps
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 01 Aug 19 22:06
I treat all equally just because others don't is neither here nor there that's why I'm big on justice for the grooming gang victims and against the establishment protectors who arrest naked drunk girls instead of bunches of grown men who rape them because of their protected religion.
Same goes for all the Catholic rapists and establishment rapist paedos in Children's homes.Didn't have to say that it should be obvious from my posts.
portman thanks for the input that rattling noise you keep hearing isn't just a lack of Cerebrospinal fluid.
By:
portmanpark
When: 01 Aug 19 22:09
I treat all equally...……..laughing so much I couldn't read the rest of it
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