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31 Jul 19
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Down again today
Only worth over £5
The original listing less than 1 year ago was £19
Look like the workers aren't going to get rich on their
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Only worth over £5
The original listing less than 1 year ago was £19
Look like the workers aren't going to get rich on their
SAVINGS
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I watched a review of one of their latest cars on you tube and the reviewer pointed out the misaligned stitching on the door panels and other faults, then said something like, of course this is a hand built car so it's only to be expected. What! Close to £200k with the extras I'd expect it to be perfect.
New low of £3.99
China buyers aren't buying!!!
China buyers aren't buying!!!
Oct 3, 2019 -- 5:48PM, cooperman wrote:
I watched a review of one of their latest cars on you tube and the reviewer pointed out the misaligned stitching on the door panels and other faults, then said something like, of course this is a hand built car so it's only to be expected. What! Close to £200k with the extras I'd expect it to be perfect.
Soon be cheaper to buy the company
Automotive Brexit myths – busted
UK automotive industry puts the record straight on ‘no deal’ Brexit impact, as Parliament debates the meaningful vote
Many commentators and politicians cite the automotive industry in Brexit discussions, so the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) has published a clear rebuttal of some of the many arguments that have been used about the sector in recent years. The industry has been consistent and united – a ‘no deal’ Brexit would have a devastating impact on the sector and the hundreds of thousands of jobs it supports.
MYTH 1: The auto industry shouldn’t worry about leaving the EU with no deal
TRUTH: Leaving without a deal would trigger the most seismic shift in trading conditions UK Automotive has ever experienced. Overnight, it would be hit by an immediate end to free and frictionless trade with its biggest market, an end to preferential trade with a further 70 countries worldwide, the imposition of billions of pounds of tariffs, severe disruption to supply chains and production, and lasting damage to the global reputation of the UK as an attractive and stable investment destination.
MYTH 2: This is just the automotive industry scaremongering
TRUTH: The past two years have seen a significant drop in investment, car sales and manufacturing, driving the industry off course to meet its production target of 2 million cars by 2020. This is a cyclical sector and other issues are also undermining global growth but companies surveyed said that Brexit was costing jobs and competitiveness – one in five automotive companies have already lost business; thousands of jobs are being lost – and the UK hasn’t even left yet.1 This is reality.
MYTH 3: Industry is blaming Brexit but the real problem is falling diesel sales and the slowdown in global markets, including China
TRUTH: These are all issues challenging the global industry – it faces a perfect global storm. Significantly, Brexit has not happened yet – we leave on 31 October 2019 yet it has been consistently cited by business as a cause of job cuts and reduced investment (now down to a fifth of the recent average), which undermines future competitiveness.2 Uncertainty is causing investors to look elsewhere.
MYTH 4: The EU market is in decline and growth markets are in the emerging economies. A ‘no deal’ Brexit will let us focus on those countries for export
TRUTH: EU car demand is slowing, but the Chinese market is also in decline, with UK-built cars exported there down by a quarter. We already export to some 160 markets worldwide including the emerging economies, but the EU, which accounts for more than half of this trade, is a 15 million-strong car market on our doorstep.
MYTH 5: A fall in the pound makes exporting cheaper so UK car makers will benefit
TRUTH: Sterling devaluation may make exporting cheaper, but it makes automotive manufacturing more expensive and will not offset the cost of tariffs. UK automotive manufacturing is integrated into the European supply chain network with the majority of parts used to build cars here imported, thereby negating any cost advantage.
MYTH 6: A ‘no deal’ Brexit will help reduce car prices and increase choice
TRUTH: Unless the UK reaches agreement with the EU, tariffs will increase. Consumer choice depends on profitability; importers to the UK already have to engineer cars for right-hand drive, which is a significant added cost, while currency devaluation since 2016 has slashed margins. If prices rise, the market will contract, further squeezing margins and causing consumer choice to shrink.
MYTH 7: EU rules stifle innovation – the industry will be better off without them
TRUTH: The EU and the UK produce arguably the most technically advanced cars in the world, especially in safety and efficiency, and EU automotive rules are often the basis for global regulations. If the UK wants to sell cars to the EU and other global markets, it must comply with these rules. We currently have a say in their creation. We won’t once we leave but we will still have to abide by them.
MYTH 8: Leaving with no deal will mean more automotive jobs for British people
TRUTH: ‘No deal’ will cost jobs, not create them. Thousands of cuts have already been announced, with one in eight companies reducing headcount as part of contingency planning.3 The sector depends on accessing talent; we develop our own but look globally for the best people to fill any skills gaps and need our UK employees to develop international experience.
MYTH 9: We can readily strike trade deals with big global automotive markets
TRUTH: Recent announcements have shown how difficult it is to replicate trade deals, never mind strike new ones. Free trade agreements such as those between the EU and Canada and Japan take many years to negotiate and agree, and negotiating strength depends on size. The UK is large and relatively affluent but small compared with the EU, China, US, Japan and other countries.
MYTH 10: Tariffs would give UK auto manufacturers a competitive advantage at home
TRUTH: Only 12% of cars sold here in the UK are built here. We export more than 80% of the cars we produce, with two-thirds of these sold in the EU and markets such as Canada, Japan, South Korea and Turkey with which the EU has preferential trade agreements. Tariffs would disadvantage UK car manufacturers in all of these markets.
MYTH 11: The UK could use import tariffs to support the automotive industry
TRUTH: Using tariffs to support domestic industry is strictly regulated under World Trade Organisation rules. Some financial support is allowed but other countries could retaliate by taxing imports of the subsidised vehicle or component to protect their own industries. This would undermine the automotive industry’s principle of free and fair trade.
MYTH 12: The German car industry sells 750,000 cars in the UK – it will demand a deal to protect its own interests
TRUTH: The German and EU car industries have been clear: the single market matters more to them than a deal with the UK. The UK is an important car market but it only accounts for around 10% of EU production volumes,4 while we ship more than 40% of everything we make to customers in the EU.
MYTH 13: The demise of UK automotive manufacturing would be a price worth paying for ‘no deal’; the economy would cope without it
TRUTH: Automotive manufacturing is one of the UK’s most important economic pillars, producing high value goods, creating skilled jobs and driving exports. It delivers an annual £82 billion direct to the Treasury, employs 168,000 people and supports local economies, and is responsible for 14.4% of the UK’s export in goods. However, the true scale of its contribution is significantly larger, at around £175 billion5 once the impact on adjacent sectors, including raw materials; R&D; logistics; retail; finance; insurance; tech and more are taken into account.
UK automotive industry puts the record straight on ‘no deal’ Brexit impact, as Parliament debates the meaningful vote
Many commentators and politicians cite the automotive industry in Brexit discussions, so the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) has published a clear rebuttal of some of the many arguments that have been used about the sector in recent years. The industry has been consistent and united – a ‘no deal’ Brexit would have a devastating impact on the sector and the hundreds of thousands of jobs it supports.
MYTH 1: The auto industry shouldn’t worry about leaving the EU with no deal
TRUTH: Leaving without a deal would trigger the most seismic shift in trading conditions UK Automotive has ever experienced. Overnight, it would be hit by an immediate end to free and frictionless trade with its biggest market, an end to preferential trade with a further 70 countries worldwide, the imposition of billions of pounds of tariffs, severe disruption to supply chains and production, and lasting damage to the global reputation of the UK as an attractive and stable investment destination.
MYTH 2: This is just the automotive industry scaremongering
TRUTH: The past two years have seen a significant drop in investment, car sales and manufacturing, driving the industry off course to meet its production target of 2 million cars by 2020. This is a cyclical sector and other issues are also undermining global growth but companies surveyed said that Brexit was costing jobs and competitiveness – one in five automotive companies have already lost business; thousands of jobs are being lost – and the UK hasn’t even left yet.1 This is reality.
MYTH 3: Industry is blaming Brexit but the real problem is falling diesel sales and the slowdown in global markets, including China
TRUTH: These are all issues challenging the global industry – it faces a perfect global storm. Significantly, Brexit has not happened yet – we leave on 31 October 2019 yet it has been consistently cited by business as a cause of job cuts and reduced investment (now down to a fifth of the recent average), which undermines future competitiveness.2 Uncertainty is causing investors to look elsewhere.
MYTH 4: The EU market is in decline and growth markets are in the emerging economies. A ‘no deal’ Brexit will let us focus on those countries for export
TRUTH: EU car demand is slowing, but the Chinese market is also in decline, with UK-built cars exported there down by a quarter. We already export to some 160 markets worldwide including the emerging economies, but the EU, which accounts for more than half of this trade, is a 15 million-strong car market on our doorstep.
MYTH 5: A fall in the pound makes exporting cheaper so UK car makers will benefit
TRUTH: Sterling devaluation may make exporting cheaper, but it makes automotive manufacturing more expensive and will not offset the cost of tariffs. UK automotive manufacturing is integrated into the European supply chain network with the majority of parts used to build cars here imported, thereby negating any cost advantage.
MYTH 6: A ‘no deal’ Brexit will help reduce car prices and increase choice
TRUTH: Unless the UK reaches agreement with the EU, tariffs will increase. Consumer choice depends on profitability; importers to the UK already have to engineer cars for right-hand drive, which is a significant added cost, while currency devaluation since 2016 has slashed margins. If prices rise, the market will contract, further squeezing margins and causing consumer choice to shrink.
MYTH 7: EU rules stifle innovation – the industry will be better off without them
TRUTH: The EU and the UK produce arguably the most technically advanced cars in the world, especially in safety and efficiency, and EU automotive rules are often the basis for global regulations. If the UK wants to sell cars to the EU and other global markets, it must comply with these rules. We currently have a say in their creation. We won’t once we leave but we will still have to abide by them.
MYTH 8: Leaving with no deal will mean more automotive jobs for British people
TRUTH: ‘No deal’ will cost jobs, not create them. Thousands of cuts have already been announced, with one in eight companies reducing headcount as part of contingency planning.3 The sector depends on accessing talent; we develop our own but look globally for the best people to fill any skills gaps and need our UK employees to develop international experience.
MYTH 9: We can readily strike trade deals with big global automotive markets
TRUTH: Recent announcements have shown how difficult it is to replicate trade deals, never mind strike new ones. Free trade agreements such as those between the EU and Canada and Japan take many years to negotiate and agree, and negotiating strength depends on size. The UK is large and relatively affluent but small compared with the EU, China, US, Japan and other countries.
MYTH 10: Tariffs would give UK auto manufacturers a competitive advantage at home
TRUTH: Only 12% of cars sold here in the UK are built here. We export more than 80% of the cars we produce, with two-thirds of these sold in the EU and markets such as Canada, Japan, South Korea and Turkey with which the EU has preferential trade agreements. Tariffs would disadvantage UK car manufacturers in all of these markets.
MYTH 11: The UK could use import tariffs to support the automotive industry
TRUTH: Using tariffs to support domestic industry is strictly regulated under World Trade Organisation rules. Some financial support is allowed but other countries could retaliate by taxing imports of the subsidised vehicle or component to protect their own industries. This would undermine the automotive industry’s principle of free and fair trade.
MYTH 12: The German car industry sells 750,000 cars in the UK – it will demand a deal to protect its own interests
TRUTH: The German and EU car industries have been clear: the single market matters more to them than a deal with the UK. The UK is an important car market but it only accounts for around 10% of EU production volumes,4 while we ship more than 40% of everything we make to customers in the EU.
MYTH 13: The demise of UK automotive manufacturing would be a price worth paying for ‘no deal’; the economy would cope without it
TRUTH: Automotive manufacturing is one of the UK’s most important economic pillars, producing high value goods, creating skilled jobs and driving exports. It delivers an annual £82 billion direct to the Treasury, employs 168,000 people and supports local economies, and is responsible for 14.4% of the UK’s export in goods. However, the true scale of its contribution is significantly larger, at around £175 billion5 once the impact on adjacent sectors, including raw materials; R&D; logistics; retail; finance; insurance; tech and more are taken into account.
Have SMMT done a survey into the impact of restricsetion of access in towns and cities world wide because I think that this will kill off most car manufactures
Upto nearly £6
Must be the new launch SUV?
Or a new top spec car named concorde with price tag of
£321k
Seems theirs a bit of the original Concorde in this
new car
Must be the new launch SUV?
Or a new top spec car named concorde with price tag of
£321k
Seems theirs a bit of the original Concorde in this
new car
Aston Martin extends share price fall
Aston Martin, the luxury car maker, floated on the London Stock Exchange in October 2018 and it has pretty much been downhill ever since.
Its shares floated at £19 each.
This morning it issued another profit warning and now its stock is worth 443p after falling 14.94%.
Aston Martin, the luxury car maker, floated on the London Stock Exchange in October 2018 and it has pretty much been downhill ever since.
Its shares floated at £19 each.
This morning it issued another profit warning and now its stock is worth 443p after falling 14.94%.
My shares in Bob Martin are the dogs..............
Under £2 now
They be offering 2-for 1
specials
SOON
They be offering 2-for 1
specials
SOON
They were considering a discounted rights issue to 'reset' the business two weeks ago, impossible to price one up now I would have thought.
Just £1.10
Down nearly 45% this morning
No buyers
obviously
Down nearly 45% this morning
No buyers
obviously
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