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Unless some nutter tries to take Bernal out !
Why don't the French man up and have a competitive last stage !
Pathetic !
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You don't really like the French, do you Leopard?
You get great pleasure from their failures
You get great pleasure from their failures
Not really...just pulling their collectives legs.
The English and the French have a love hate relationship.
We will never forgive the atrocities committed by William the Conqueror after winning the Battle of Hastings in 1066 though !
The English and the French have a love hate relationship.
We will never forgive the atrocities committed by William the Conqueror after winning the Battle of Hastings in 1066 though !
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North
William's strategy, implemented during the winter of 1069–70 (he spent Christmas 1069 in York), has been described by William E. Kapelle and some other modern scholars as an act of genocide.[16][17][a]
Contemporary biographers of William considered it to be his cruelest act and a "stain upon his soul".[19] Writing about the Harrying of the North, over fifty years later, the Anglo-Norman chronicler Orderic Vitalis wrote (summarized):
The King stopped at nothing to hunt his enemies. He cut down many people and destroyed homes and land. Nowhere else had he shown such cruelty. This made a real change.
To his shame, William made no effort to control his fury, punishing the innocent with the guilty. He ordered that crops and herds, tools and food be burned to ashes. More than 100,000 people perished of starvation.
I have often praised William in this book, but I can say nothing good about this brutal slaughter. God will punish him.[20]
The land was ravaged on either side of William's route north from the River Aire. His army destroyed crops and settlements and forced rebels into hiding. In the New Year of 1070 he split his army into smaller units and sent them out to burn, loot, and terrify.[21]
Florence of Worcester said that from the Humber to the Tees, William's men burnt whole villages and slaughtered the inhabitants. Food stores and livestock were destroyed so that anyone surviving the initial massacre would succumb to starvation over the winter. The survivors were reduced to cannibalism.[22]
Refugees from the harrying are mentioned as far away as Worcestershire in the Evesham Abbey chronicle.[23][24][25]
[b]In 1086, Yorkshire and the North Riding still had large areas of waste territory. The Domesday Book entries indicate wasteas est or hoc est vast (it is wasted) for estate after estate; in all a total of 60% of all holdings were waste.
It states that 66% of all villages contained wasted manors. Even the prosperous areas of the county had lost 60% of its value compared to 1066. Only 25% of the population and plough teams remained with a reported loss of 80,000 oxen and 150,000 people.[26][27]
Independent archaeological evidence supports the massive destruction and displacement of people. The archaeologist Richard Ernest Muir wrote that there was evidence for the "violent disruption [that] took place in Yorkshire in 1069–71, in the form of hoards of coins which were buried by the inhabitants."[26]
B.K. Roberts in his book The Making of the English Village, suggests the reason that large numbers of villages have been laid out in regular pattern in Durham and Yorkshire, was through a restructuring at a single point in time, as opposed to natural settlement growth.
He goes on to say that it is highly unlikely that such plans could have resulted from piecemeal additions and must have been necessary after the Harrying of the North. The dating is thought to be secure as it is known that Norman lords used similar regular plans in founding new towns in the 'plantation' of rural settlements in other conquered parts of the British Isles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North
William's strategy, implemented during the winter of 1069–70 (he spent Christmas 1069 in York), has been described by William E. Kapelle and some other modern scholars as an act of genocide.[16][17][a]
Contemporary biographers of William considered it to be his cruelest act and a "stain upon his soul".[19] Writing about the Harrying of the North, over fifty years later, the Anglo-Norman chronicler Orderic Vitalis wrote (summarized):
The King stopped at nothing to hunt his enemies. He cut down many people and destroyed homes and land. Nowhere else had he shown such cruelty. This made a real change.
To his shame, William made no effort to control his fury, punishing the innocent with the guilty. He ordered that crops and herds, tools and food be burned to ashes. More than 100,000 people perished of starvation.
I have often praised William in this book, but I can say nothing good about this brutal slaughter. God will punish him.[20]
The land was ravaged on either side of William's route north from the River Aire. His army destroyed crops and settlements and forced rebels into hiding. In the New Year of 1070 he split his army into smaller units and sent them out to burn, loot, and terrify.[21]
Florence of Worcester said that from the Humber to the Tees, William's men burnt whole villages and slaughtered the inhabitants. Food stores and livestock were destroyed so that anyone surviving the initial massacre would succumb to starvation over the winter. The survivors were reduced to cannibalism.[22]
Refugees from the harrying are mentioned as far away as Worcestershire in the Evesham Abbey chronicle.[23][24][25]
[b]In 1086, Yorkshire and the North Riding still had large areas of waste territory. The Domesday Book entries indicate wasteas est or hoc est vast (it is wasted) for estate after estate; in all a total of 60% of all holdings were waste.
It states that 66% of all villages contained wasted manors. Even the prosperous areas of the county had lost 60% of its value compared to 1066. Only 25% of the population and plough teams remained with a reported loss of 80,000 oxen and 150,000 people.[26][27]
Independent archaeological evidence supports the massive destruction and displacement of people. The archaeologist Richard Ernest Muir wrote that there was evidence for the "violent disruption [that] took place in Yorkshire in 1069–71, in the form of hoards of coins which were buried by the inhabitants."[26]
B.K. Roberts in his book The Making of the English Village, suggests the reason that large numbers of villages have been laid out in regular pattern in Durham and Yorkshire, was through a restructuring at a single point in time, as opposed to natural settlement growth.
He goes on to say that it is highly unlikely that such plans could have resulted from piecemeal additions and must have been necessary after the Harrying of the North. The dating is thought to be secure as it is known that Norman lords used similar regular plans in founding new towns in the 'plantation' of rural settlements in other conquered parts of the British Isles.
We will never forgive the atrocities committed by William the Conqueror after winning the Battle of Hastings in 1066 though !
I prefer William the Bastard or if you really want to wind him up, William the Tanner's boy.
I prefer William the Bastard or if you really want to wind him up, William the Tanner's boy.
Yes he was a good general William
But an utterly ruthless man...what he did to this country was genocide I agree.
If only Harold had waited before he took his army on at Hastings
You are right there lybertyne, he hated the Tanners boys slur...he had a town flayed alive in France for that.
But an utterly ruthless man...what he did to this country was genocide I agree.
If only Harold had waited before he took his army on at Hastings
You are right there lybertyne, he hated the Tanners boys slur...he had a town flayed alive in France for that.
I think the Normans were actually a mixture of Vikings who had settled in Normany and the French.
They were awesome warriors at the best but very cruel.
They went on Crusades once and sacked Constantinople, they were supposed to be freeing Jerusalem???????
They were awesome warriors at the best but very cruel.
They went on Crusades once and sacked Constantinople, they were supposed to be freeing Jerusalem???????
Having said that, if history was different we wouldn't be here. Everything's on a knife-edge. If Henry VIII had had a surviving son with the Aragon bird I may well not be here. If Richard III won Bosworth I wouldn't be here. The odds of being born are miniscule.
That's why you should not waste a further minute of your precious life.
Use everyday as if it were your last !
Use everyday as if it were your last !
Bernal is extraordinary ......is it due to coming from the Andes (2,600metres) and his blood is adapted to lower oxygen levels so he excels on climbs.
Unfair advantage ? ....
Should his red blood cells be reduced to the average cyclists?
(Like reducing the testosterone in Casta Semenya)
Unfair advantage ? ....
Should his red blood cells be reduced to the average cyclists?
(Like reducing the testosterone in Casta Semenya)
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