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By:
detraveller
When: 03 Aug 19 01:10
Is it the same story we've been talking about last three days? Because in that in which was in Frankfurt, the woman survived but her kid didn't
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Aug 19 01:11
That was an Eritrean man wanted in Switzerland.
By:
bigmo
When: 03 Aug 19 15:53
Ringleader of child sex gang to be released from prison 17 years early

Ashitha Nagesh Sunday 30 Jul 2017 10:33 am


Read more: Https://metro.co.uk/2017/07/30/ringleader-of-child-sex-gang-to-be-released-from-prison-17-years-early-6816188/?ito=cbshare
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Aug 19 21:36
Bild today had the same refugee story from yesterday on their main page. 5 days in a row now they've had a refugee story above the fold.
Two other newspapers had similar stories, one with Interior minister Seehofer demanding better border checks and another that i don't remember.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of how the newspaper coverage is in Germany. As you can see, when something happens, it is reported on the main page.
By:
bigmo
When: 04 Aug 19 09:16
I think it's more about the reluctance of the press in the UK.
By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 09:45

Aug 3, 2019 -- 12:09AM, detraveller wrote:


A syrian guy in Stuttgart today murdered a woman on a street in front of her daughter. With a sword.They had some history, so it wasn't a random attack.Bild had the man waving the sword on their front page, blood running down both his hands. Plus a woman lying on the street with a blood trail from her head to the side of the street.So whatever media blockage there is in Germany, it doesn't apply to Bild.No other newspaper had this story on their front page.


Serious media and newspapers in general don't cover (single) murders, at least not extensively and sensationalist. That's always been a thing for the tabloids.

I think a lot of the "media blackout" stuff hails from people misunderstanding that serious newspapers very seldomly cater to the bloodlust of certain parts of the population, unlike tabloids.

By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 09:46
and of course some people just like the opportunity to create a conspiracy and victim story out of that.
By:
bigmo
When: 04 Aug 19 11:59
Just because there are nutters about I still believe we have a right to know what's going on. It's not right someone like Ashitha Nagesh can just slip back into society after only five years. Just one example.

I find it frightening what the authorities would try to get away with.
By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 14:49
That's certainly up to debate, but that's apparently how your justice system works. For everyone. The release of Mubarek Ali (Ashitha Nagesh is a female journalist who wrote the metro article you linked to) release was an automatic one that is triggered for all convicts apart from specifically excluded cases.

It's not something the authorities try to get away with. From what I understand, the relevant law about automatic release had already been changed by the time of his release to include convicts such as him, but didn't apply to him yet because it wasn't there at the time of his sentencing.
By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 14:50
I.e in any new trials for crimes like his, there would not be an automatic release anymore.
By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 14:57
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/07/31/why-was-this-child-sex-gang-leader-released-from-prison-17-years-early/

You can read more there
By:
edy
When: 04 Aug 19 15:00
Which also leads back to journalism, or bad journalism in the hunt for clicks.

Obviously "Ringleader released 17 years early" is a lot better than "Ringleader released perfectly according to the law after having served half his sentence. Law has since changed to not automatically free people like him anymore"
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Aug 19 15:06
If it can be proven that he committed more crimes than convicted of i.e raped just 1 more young teenage girl what would happen then?
From reading about these cases only a small fraction of rapists have been arrested and convicted compared to the number of actual rapes committed.
Hopefully someone comes forward and puts this scummy dirty shytebag back where he belongs.
By:
bigmo
When: 04 Aug 19 15:20
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/07/31/why-was-this-child-sex-gang-leader-released-from-prison-17-years-early/

It's no wonder there's no fear of the justice system. I accept legally he/she is probably right. It needs changing. Too many care more about the perpetrators. Makes me sick.
By:
bigmo
When: 04 Aug 19 15:21
That's my last word on it. Life is too short to be debating this carp.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Aug 19 16:08
Too many care more about the perpetrators. Makes me sick.

Exactly
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