Very worrying

What worries me if this is true, why are the media not reporting it?

From the Loving Life Community Channel.

A South African organisation.

He said the media have been barred from reporting stuff like that in Germany.

The BBC are almost as bad, they tend to tuck reports like that away in the 6 AM news if they report it at all.

Having clicked on the link in the op, I now have a queue of alt-Right propaganda links waiting to play on Youtube: -don't even have to click on one for them to unfurl until the end of time.
Difficult to imagine a skullbone thick enough to be impervious to that influence.

That's the problem though, isn't it? I'm not surprised by your comment it's far-right sh1t. Come up with some proper facts to discount this story instead of your usual blinkered view.

No facts just prejudice views.

I don't want this to be true either.

Rather than say all these channels are far-right it could just be normal people worried about what's happening in the world.

UB won't listen to a word of negative news about the EU.
It's a waste of time talking to him.
He's made up his mind and he's not interested.

The yellow vests are quiet again.

I choose my words very carefully here, not that I should have to because we SHOULD all be fully-functioning, clued-up adults aware of stuff like context and nuance. But when it comes to race, all this seems to go out the window.

Pressing on though….

It is precisely this scenario (and sex attacks in Cologne and Stockholm and the free movement of terrorists between Paris and Brussels after the Bataclan attack) that many who voted for Brexit sought to highlight as a direct result of the EU’s open borders policy and the inability / unwillingness of authorities to check the bona-fides of migrants / asylum seekers / terrorists / criminals entering the EU.

This valid and legitimate question was, in general, drowned out in cries of ‘racism’ and airy-fairy words about us ‘not turning our backs on the world….not being inward looking’ and then something about ‘Little Englanders (never ‘Little Welshies’ or ‘Little Scotlanders' because that, er, might be racist mightn’t it? Oh well…)

I don’t for one minute think that gaining control of our own borders is the magic bullet that will stop terrorist attacks or abuse of our health and housing systems by people determined enough to try. I think the answer there lies in condemning the toxic theology that gives rise to ISIS, re-examining every aspect of our foreign policy re the middle east and supporting the work of groups like the Quilliam foundation and its pioneering work with de-radicalisation and giving fair and equal opportunities to all communities to share in the wealth of our country, whilst never being afraid to condemn evildoers whatever their race.

I do think that assessing the background of anyone wishing to settle in our country is a good idea and measuring what they can contribute to our society on what our society needs.

Apologists never seem to understand that the mass-murderers don't stop to ask their victims first whether they are 'progressive', 'tolerant', or even fellow Peace-Loving sorts.

They just kill indiscriminately.

Yes.
That's right. Unless it's on youtube, it's made up.

Still waiting for proof this is fake news.

It's like arguing with flat-earthers...
There is never proof.

Just what YOU WANT to see.

The threat to our culture was never the Leavers' scapegoats: Polish plumbers and EU teachers.

Brexit discriminates against white Christian Europeans. The influx of non-EU immigration continues unabated and now accounts for 7/7 of net migration, and the top four counries for non-EU immigration are India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and New Zealand!
Oly joking, no4. is not NZ but Nigeria.

Are but Nigerians all seem to have two/three or Four different identities
so they probably number one whether in or out imo

Wow, STUDYFORM and unitedbiscuits on the same thread.

There'll be fireworks tonight if they cross swords

Don't let him goad you STUDY, he's only here to cause trouble.

unitedbiscuits
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The threat to our culture was never the Leavers' scapegoats: Polish plumbers and EU teachers.

Brexit discriminates against white Christian Europeans. The influx of non-EU immigration continues unabated and now accounts for 7/7 of net migration, and the top four counries for non-EU immigration are India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and New Zealand!
Oly joking, no4. is not NZ but Nigeria.


^

This guy uses this stat every few months.

No sure why.

I may be wrong but it sounds very racist to me.

What is wrong with an immigration system based on merit rather than allowing anyone from the EU in and rejecting engineers and computer programmers from India just because of where people are born?

Thanks for posting bigmo worrying indeed.
Why does anyone think this is made up?

Because it inverts all of the cultural concerns by which Leave won the Brexit vote.
Brexit distances the familiarity the complexion of immigration to the UK, while making little difference to overall numbers.
The incomers will be less akin to us.
Own-goal for nationalists, patriots and racists.

Not it doesn't.

It just puts the whole world on the same level playing field IF the UK requires skilled labour.

Much better to have an immigration system based on merit rather than allow unskilled EU labour in to undercut our working class and then deny required skilled labour from ROW.

Why is someone from Romania better than someone from Australia if the Australian person has more skills the UK actually needs?

Nobody needs open borders , it is cultural and economic suicide.

Why do you assume that a Romanian is 'better assimilated by belonging to a European Christian heritage' than an Australian or a Canadian?

I don't give a monkey's about,romanians,africans,arabs,  or whatever I will take care of my family I dont owe anyone else anything ,
I want to live amongst my aim folk.

Those countries have net inward migration from the UK.

So, a false equivalence. The top four countries for non-EU immigration to the UK continue to be: India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh.

Why is that a problem IF they are coming here on merit by supplying the skills we require here?

I would rather a doctor came here than an unemployed person who need benefits to live.

I do not care where they come from IF the UK needs doctors.

We still require that doctor regardless of how many low paid workers come from the EU.

The more diverse, disjointed and different they are to the culture they inhabit, the more that culture is diluted and vulnerable to incomers who share fewer of its values.
The jihadi Beatles are not Polish plumbers.

that's as maybe, but its the polish plumber and peoples wages that are more important, sorry

Jul 20, 2019 -- 9:04PM, STUDYFORM wrote:

The cofidence that comes from collective trolldom, eh crippen?Get enough believers on one thread - Resistance is futile.(Interesting to see an activist using the word assimilated!)Forum is way past finished.

Before you leave the finished forum can you publish a guide on how to find love on Betfair for us single forumite.

*forumites
Hetrosexual only please.

This video is a load of bollox. I can confirm some of the things the nurse says, as I've experienced them myself. However, for the most part the claims sound ridiculous to me. Some of these claims can easily be backed up with numbers or proof, but aren't. Some claims are simply ridiculous like migrants need to be accompanied by K9 units and they leave their kids at the pharmacies so police are guarding the pharmacy etc.

Also the email is from a guy called Andreas who conveniently turns into a woman(referring to 'we women' in the email) when it comes to migrants behavior towards women.

This guy does a shet job of exposing the truth.

You cannot confirm nothing.

Whether it is true or false you cannot confirm anything like you have claimed, you are speculating about your personal opinion.

He could have named the hospital instead of naming the nurse and I could have walked in there tomorrow to see if this was true.

I fully understand that Ibrahima. Its my opinion against his. But I live in Munich. And his claims aren't consistent with the kind of police behavior I know in Germany.

As I said, some of the things he's claimed can easily be backed by numbers. In my opinion, the maker of the video should have asked for proof before making the video, that would have brought him way more views and credibility. But he doesn't. This is why I don't bother with videos like these, just like I don't bother with listening to the mainstream news.

I thought they named to 2 biggest hospitals in Munich.

ok let me see again.

Im not against you DT, i actually think you are decent balanced poster.

I totally understand you not trusting the this clip video etc.

It could well be false. The problem is why their is media blackout in Germany, France & most of europe.

I don't see where he mentions any hospitals.

He only mentions a hospital 'near the Rhine' which isn't anywhere near Munich, where he/she lives/works. Plus the Rhine isn't a small river. There could be hundreds of hospitals near the river Rhine.

He claims staff was attacked but doesn't give any reason for the attack(only that a kid was handed over to them)
The doctor underwent Surgery.
Two nurses lying in ICU.
Yet its a 'river near the Rhine'.

This is what I mean. Vague information that no one can check for truthfulness.

*'hospital near the Rhine'

Just how this stuff works.

Doesn't need proof, only allegations. The onus is on everyone else to prove it wrong apparently. Just needs to infect enough people to think "what if it is true". Do that a few times and they buy into the idea that there's some mega-conspiracy hiding the truth from them and the only way to get the truth is from me and my friends here on youtube. And then bingo, you've got yourself a captive audience.

Looks like my post got eaten up by the Forum gods.

Nevermind. Goodnight.

WHo are the forum gods, id like to know.

dt told yoou weeks ago there's a media blackout regarding migrants etc. in your country,have you found the NO GO zones yet.

Jul 20, 2019 -- 11:30PM, detraveller wrote:

I fully understand that Ibrahima. Its my opinion against his. But I live in Munich. And his claims aren't consistent with the kind of police behavior I know in Germany.As I said, some of the things he's claimed can easily be backed by numbers. In my opinion, the maker of the video should have asked for proof before making the video, that would have brought him way more views and credibility. But he doesn't. This is why I don't bother with videos like these, just like I don't bother with listening to the mainstream news.

I don't think he would've gotten more views by showing the realistic picture. Simply because it's far too unspectacular/normal and won't please the viewership/subscribers he's built for his channel. They want their opinion confirmed by Andreas, the Czech woman that works in a Munich hospital.

and the k9 thing in particular is quite curious. Now, I don't live in Munich, but where I live I don't see police strolling along with dogs while escorting migrants. Detraveller said he even lives in Munich and from the sound of his posts he doesn't regularly see Kommissar Rex escorting migrants to hospitals either.

Not sure what purpose the dog would serve in a hospital either that is supposed to kind of be an environment where animals might be deemed a bit...dirty.

Need to resurrect the quizzes Study. Could be a start. Certainly is a different place these days.

But people need to stop being so sensitive as well, the use of racist,bigot or Nazi is incredible by the lentil knitting,snowflake soyboys.

Jul 21, 2019 -- 12:43PM, flushgordon1 wrote:

But people need to stop being so sensitive as well, the use of racist,bigot or Nazi is incredible by the lentil knitting,snowflake soyboys.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

Jul 21, 2019 -- 12:38PM, HGS wrote:

Need to resurrect the quizzes Study. Could be a start. Certainly is a different place these days.

There is still the (nibbs's) quiz room, HGS.

Although recent attempts at running quizzes there were ruined by the arswipe on youtube. (changing his IP address and re-entering dozens of times, just to be a plick)
A fairly big part of this forum's demise is down to him and his new lackeys.

Again, it's tribal, but mostly its their desire to be wanted and have friends - of any type. Like little kids - ANY attention will do
Their dedication to trolling, getting rid of threads, and annoying people is probably doing us all a favour, because in time, we'll all stop spending our lives on computers.

I miss the friendliness and quizzes as much as you do, HGS. As, I'm sure do all the people who no longer use the forum.

This makes the trolls proud too.

A fairly big part of this forum's demise is down to him and his new lackeys.

Says the one who posted 18 lines of foul abuse in 18 different posts on a certain thread.

The forum's demise is down to people like that who never seemed to pick up a ban in the old days but thankfully do now.

And all the time claiming they are the innocent party.

And still do when the opposite is clearly the case.

I expected nothing less. Crippen.
You load of lying garbage about foul abuse is something I had saved, in context and with the nonsense you wrote that I was responding to, but I am not engaging any further with you than this post.

The sheer amount of post removal by you and your "pals" have left everything not as it was intended and you reply accordingly.

YOU are a big part of what's happened to this forum. There's no "innocent party" just a guilty one.

You can keep it.

Jul 21, 2019 -- 1:21PM, Dr Crippen wrote:

And all the time claiming they are the innocent party.And still do when the opposite is clearly the case.

Not everybody can be as innocent and pure as the two of us, little buddy.

detraveller you say parts of it are true. Could you tell us which please?

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What I meant to say was that some things she's said are consistent with the behaviour of the refugees. I can imagine them refusing treatment from the opposite gender or being rude, though its often just the way they are and aren't necessarily being rude.

You have to understand the healthcare system for refugees.

First they arrive at the first reporting station. This is where I worked for a year during the refugee crisis.
This is where they are checked for diseases like AIDS. No one is letting these people roam around with dangerous diseases. Its the first thing that is checked when these people arrive.

From there they are sent to the provicial accommodation centre.
This is another temporary accommodation.
Here these refugees are then divided and sent into various long term accommodation centres(long term = 2 years for example)
Up until this point, the province bears the full costs of the healthcare.

Once the refugees arrive at their long term accommodation, their healthcare becomes the responisibility of the admin of that accomm centre.
Usually refugees get a 'quarterly ticket' which they can use at the doctor of their choice. Even here, for the first 15 months, refugees DO NOT pay for their medicine. During the first 15 months, the refugees enjoy greater benefits compared to ordinary germans. and dont pay any contribution(this is my assumption, but the state can't ask them to pay while not allowing them to work and keeping them restricted to one place, work permits are a different story).
After 15 months, refugees enjoy exactly the same benefits as an ordinary german, and pay the same contribution as well.

Now I can go over each point mentioned in the video and tell you why it could be wrong, but I don't have the time. Some of the points are outright lies and some are nonsense, like the part where she claims police are guarding pharmacies because refugees leave their kids there(wtf???)

The only way this story is true is if the nurse works at a hospital at one of these temporary accommodation centres. But I do not know if such hospitals exist. If they do, then it is understandable she has these problems. But when she says refugees come to her hospital because the clinics cannot take the load, it clearly means its not a dedicated hospital and is an ordinary one.

Moreover, some of her claims can easily be backed up by proof, numbers, or detailed info. But all the info she provides is vague(such as the story about the hospital near the river Rhine). That's like I tell you how bad things are in Durham and as an example I tell you a story about a hospital near river Thames, when river thames isn't a small river and doesn't even pass through Durham. Would you not feel im just bullshetting you?

Over.

Interesting post dt

Sound like inviting  them into their country has caused unnecessary problems

Thank you very much for your post. I don't believe any of us wanted the story to be true. The biggest problem I believe is MSM silence and cover-up of any negative stories.

You don't know Bild

Which is the biggest and most read tabloid of the country.

Bilge looks better than our Star.

https://www.thelocal.de/20120309/41245

Boy, 8, killed as 'man pushes him and his mum onto railway tracks'

Commuters chased and grabbed a suspect after the boy and mum were shoved off a platform at Frankfurt's main station


His 40-year-old mum managed to roll to safety in a gap between tracks, and a 40-year-old Eritrean man was arrested by police who are treating the incident as a suspected homicide.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-boy-8-killed-man-18795040

jeez Mo is anywhere safe Poor mother

Desperate times Baphornet.

very

@Denzil Since you've mentioned the media coverage often, I decided to take a look at all the newpapers at a shop today.
OVB, Suddeutsche and Bild had the above story on their main page. So as far as newspapers are concerned, there doesn't seem to be anyone trying to hide such stories. Bild almost always have a refugee story on their main page.

I don't know how the TV coverage was. I don't have a tv.

I've seen videos of German reporters refusing to talk about anything related to migrants and the NO GO zones.

Maybe they've loosened a bit since Merkel had to admit they existed last year.

I think when people see the mainstream media lying, they automatically accept any alternative version to be true. And that's what all those alternative news sources pounce on. Feeding people exactly what they want to hear.

The reality isn't covered by either side. I saw that firsthand. Which is why I don't trust any news these days. The nurse's story in OP's thread description is as ridiculous as it gets. A fake story fed to people in South Africa by someone living in Australia and using the story to justify Trump's election in USA.

talking about Polish plumbers  ...a severe shortage of Plumbers  as well as other skills needless to say in Polski so they are now shipping in Bulgarian/Romanian  plumbers etc 

Romanian Plumbers advert  ( leaking pipes - no worries , we will arrive at your house promptly but we may not leave ina hurry )

Bild has the same story from yesterday on their main page. SZ have the interior minister asking for more police on the train statiins(there's already good police presence even on smaller stations). Other newspapers sold out.

No clue about the TV reporting but again, from the newspapers, there doesn't seem to be any media block out.

Their countries are full to the brim so head to the UK and have a better life .

Nothing wrong with that if your a law abiding citizen who pays their way............

Bild same story again, third day in a row. As I said, they almost always have refugee stories on the main page. The rest of the newspapers have moved on.

A syrian guy in Stuttgart today murdered a woman on a street in front of her daughter. With a sword.
They had some history, so it wasn't a random attack.

Bild had the man waving the sword on their front page, blood running down both his hands. Plus a woman lying on the street with a blood trail from her head to the side of the street.

So whatever media blockage there is in Germany, it doesn't apply to Bild.

No other newspaper had this story on their front page.

Cheers dt

The german one isn't the only recent one, a few days before that a woman was pushed in front of a train (and killed) by a man who didn't know her of "Kosovo Serb" decent, germans are being advised to stand back from platform edges and be aware of those around them.

(I tend to stand back from platform edges anyway, chances are I've just told a crap joke to a random nun who was previously destined for sainthood and they are gunning for me anyway )

Is it the same story we've been talking about last three days? Because in that in which was in Frankfurt, the woman survived but her kid didn't

That was an Eritrean man wanted in Switzerland.

Ringleader of child sex gang to be released from prison 17 years early

Ashitha Nagesh Sunday 30 Jul 2017 10:33 am


Read more: Https://metro.co.uk/2017/07/30/ringleader-of-child-sex-gang-to-be-released-f...

Bild today had the same refugee story from yesterday on their main page. 5 days in a row now they've had a refugee story above the fold.
Two other newspapers had similar stories, one with Interior minister Seehofer demanding better border checks and another that i don't remember.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of how the newspaper coverage is in Germany. As you can see, when something happens, it is reported on the main page.

I think it's more about the reluctance of the press in the UK.

Aug 3, 2019 -- 12:09AM, detraveller wrote:

A syrian guy in Stuttgart today murdered a woman on a street in front of her daughter. With a sword.They had some history, so it wasn't a random attack.Bild had the man waving the sword on their front page, blood running down both his hands. Plus a woman lying on the street with a blood trail from her head to the side of the street.So whatever media blockage there is in Germany, it doesn't apply to Bild.No other newspaper had this story on their front page.

Serious media and newspapers in general don't cover (single) murders, at least not extensively and sensationalist. That's always been a thing for the tabloids.

I think a lot of the "media blackout" stuff hails from people misunderstanding that serious newspapers very seldomly cater to the bloodlust of certain parts of the population, unlike tabloids.

and of course some people just like the opportunity to create a conspiracy and victim story out of that.

Just because there are nutters about I still believe we have a right to know what's going on. It's not right someone like Ashitha Nagesh can just slip back into society after only five years. Just one example.

I find it frightening what the authorities would try to get away with.

That's certainly up to debate, but that's apparently how your justice system works. For everyone. The release of Mubarek Ali (Ashitha Nagesh is a female journalist who wrote the metro article you linked to) release was an automatic one that is triggered for all convicts apart from specifically excluded cases.

It's not something the authorities try to get away with. From what I understand, the relevant law about automatic release had already been changed by the time of his release to include convicts such as him, but didn't apply to him yet because it wasn't there at the time of his sentencing.

I.e in any new trials for crimes like his, there would not be an automatic release anymore.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/07/31/why-was-this-child-sex-gang-leader-released-from-prison-17-years-early/

You can read more there

Which also leads back to journalism, or bad journalism in the hunt for clicks.

Obviously "Ringleader released 17 years early" is a lot better than "Ringleader released perfectly according to the law after having served half his sentence. Law has since changed to not automatically free people like him anymore"

If it can be proven that he committed more crimes than convicted of i.e raped just 1 more young teenage girl what would happen then?
From reading about these cases only a small fraction of rapists have been arrested and convicted compared to the number of actual rapes committed.
Hopefully someone comes forward and puts this scummy dirty shytebag back where he belongs.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/07/31/why-was-this-child-sex-gang-leader-released-from-prison-17-years-early/

It's no wonder there's no fear of the justice system. I accept legally he/she is probably right. It needs changing. Too many care more about the perpetrators. Makes me sick.

That's my last word on it. Life is too short to be debating this carp.

Too many care more about the perpetrators. Makes me sick.

Exactly