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Baphornet
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Report peckerdunne • July 19, 2019 10:10 PM BST
They'll be back by the 31st of October.
Report casemoney • July 19, 2019 10:12 PM BST
"Iran denying 2nd ship taken"

The Hormuz Triangle ?
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 10:17 PM BST
armed guards boarded it; then allowed the vessel to carry on it's journey; according to the owners? Sounds weird
Report conditor • July 19, 2019 10:22 PM BST
Still talking **** bap, and watching it Laugh
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 10:29 PM BST
hows the Hornby engine, Frank?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • July 19, 2019 10:30 PM BST
Love they way they claim the ships are British, just vessels owned by corporates who avoid tax.
Report conditor • July 19, 2019 10:34 PM BST
It’s frank from my perspective,yours bap?
Report conditor • July 19, 2019 10:34 PM BST
Full of ****
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 10:35 PM BST
choo choo!
Report conditor • July 19, 2019 10:39 PM BST
Yep and I lost it ,more fool me **** happens
Report SontaranStratagem • July 19, 2019 10:39 PM BST
Iran stole a corporate oil ship and now that corporation is going to call for war shocker Laugh

Oil will go up and talks of war will fade in the coming days
Report detraveller • July 19, 2019 10:40 PM BST
It was stolen oil. So the Iranians took the right step imo.
Report SontaranStratagem • July 19, 2019 10:42 PM BST
A bunch of loons in their glass towers trying to send your kids to another illegal war

We know the drill by now

Hence why they try to stick us all in professional cloths and turn us all into psychos

Its easier to manipulate people who end up with the same mind set
Report conditor • July 19, 2019 10:42 PM BST
I concur
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 10:48 PM BST
Who are calling for a war?
Not seen anything and MrT opposed to war.
Report casemoney • July 19, 2019 10:54 PM BST
Piracy , nothing to do with war , So it was OK to blow Somalian people out of the Water , but no others ? 

Seems a little racist to me ?
Report SontaranStratagem • July 19, 2019 10:54 PM BST
War gets circulated and it gives them a reason to up the price of oil

There will be no war you can be assure of that

If they couldn't invade Iraq they sure as hell ain't invading Iran
Report casemoney • July 19, 2019 10:56 PM BST
I believe they did invade Iraq , or did I imagine the gulf war ?
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 10:58 PM BST
Iran has committed an act of war; of course the UK has to call it that & respond. That's not going to happen, but officially Iran has started a war
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 10:58 PM BST
Shoosh, don't mention the war.
I did earlier but I think I got away with it.
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 11:01 PM BST
i think conditor has gone back to his train set, so need to whisper, Mr Bula
Report detraveller • July 19, 2019 11:02 PM BST

Jul 19, 2019 -- 10:58PM, Baphornet wrote:


Iran has committed an act of war; of course the UK has to call it that & respond. That's not going to happen, but officially Iran has started a war


Jesus Christus.

Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:04 PM BST
Condi in a bit of a mood tonight. Must have suffered a derailment.
Report casemoney • July 19, 2019 11:08 PM BST
Pirates , Boats Scuppered Crew arrested , Dispatched back home in Dinghys , Job done .
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:15 PM BST
SAS probably on standby Case.
Report Baphornet • July 19, 2019 11:17 PM BST
someone needs to be there; got half a navy now so maybe dinghys is the way to go
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:18 PM BST
The Waverley on standby as well.
Report themightymac • July 19, 2019 11:19 PM BST
Had many a good trip "doon the water" on the Waverley.
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:22 PM BST
The Waverley Love
Likewise Mac.
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:27 PM BST
I see there is a group set up to try and get the Maid of the Loch fully functional again.
Another Paddle Steamer I have fond memories of.
Report themightymac • July 19, 2019 11:29 PM BST
Me too Aka. Good memories.
Report themightymac • July 19, 2019 11:31 PM BST
The Iranians would have had a serious problem hijacking the Waverley with us two tanked up down below in the Bar. Laugh
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:33 PM BST
Aye and Uncle Albert at the helm.
Report themightymac • July 19, 2019 11:38 PM BST
I was thinking more of Para Handy. Sunny Jim could have thrown lumps of coal at them and Dan could have hit them with his spanner.
Report akabula • July 19, 2019 11:45 PM BST
The Vital Spark. Love
Report Crisp77 • July 20, 2019 8:38 AM BST
All this for imposing EU sanctions when we should not be in the EU and not a peep of support from the Europeans but Trump was straight in with the support.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • July 20, 2019 9:01 AM BST
You would expect the EU to step up and show some strength or at least put a statement out. Their new army is only trained in controlling its on population.
Report terry mccann • July 20, 2019 9:31 AM BST
Try to remember this, when you read or hear things just like this,who does it benefit? well its not Iran now is it!
Report lfc1971 • July 20, 2019 9:40 AM BST
as long as its not Iran that's good
Report conditor • July 20, 2019 10:54 AM BST
Big derail aka ...big ... from nonsense
Report Crisp77 • July 20, 2019 11:35 AM BST
That's right Sonko. French army too busy controlling the Macron protesters.
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:10 PM BST
where's the nutcase? Has she already reclined in her deckchair?
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:13 PM BST
in regards to the FS Twunt; aren't you all mighty relieved he isn't going to be the next PM?
Report conditor • July 20, 2019 12:13 PM BST
Einstien ,bap.??
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:16 PM BST
Einstein numpty
choo choo
Report conditor • July 20, 2019 12:19 PM BST
another  attack?.... fire away bud...or a bully ?...
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:22 PM BST
take a look in the mirror Frank; & think twice before you carry on what you started
Report conditor • July 20, 2019 12:25 PM BST
I don’t do mirrors chap they only show you what you want to see,do they not??
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:35 PM BST
now have a look at your 10:22 post, Frank
Report Baphornet • July 20, 2019 12:37 PM BST
if you really want to join the trolls on here; at least be honest about it & don't try to twist the game ol' bean
Report conditor • July 20, 2019 2:42 PM BST
Sorry for late reply bap.tell me why I’m I not honest.?
Report terry mccann • July 21, 2019 12:17 PM BST
Hunt says all the right things to all the wrong people,ideal for a Prime MinisterSad
Report Baphornet • July 21, 2019 12:28 PM BST
Twunt & May - a ringer for Henry the bloodhound & an escapee from Rampton. What a pity Spitting Image isn't still about
Report terry mccann • July 21, 2019 5:27 PM BST
Looks like we were tricked by the yanks; " How trumps arch hawk lured Britain into a dangerous trap to punish Iran"
Report Whisperingdeath • July 21, 2019 6:27 PM BST
I can't believe there will be a war either but how did we get duped into playing Pirates with the Yanks?

Are our people in charge really so stupid?
Report potlis • July 21, 2019 6:39 PM BST
Iranians, over the past couple of weeks, have made it perfectly clear what thier intentions were but our Government have apparently been taken by surprise!
And to think it was Trump and his administration that were described as "INEPT" in those e-mails.
Report Sica Dan • July 21, 2019 7:43 PM BST
Iranians  have  been gradually invading us across the channel for months now.
Report Baphornet • July 22, 2019 1:04 AM BST
the nutcase is chairing  a COBRA meeting later today. Blaze of glory exit? Or just the usual ass in the air submission
Report Whisperingdeath • July 22, 2019 12:42 PM BST
Here are some questions

Why did we HIJACK an Iranian ship? What fceking business was it of ours?

Where were the weapons of mass destruction?

Why did Morgan Stanley pay Tony bLiar $5,000,000 a year after he stepped down as Prime Minister, what had he done to deserve that?
Report Whisperingdeath • July 22, 2019 1:00 PM BST
I see the Petro$ went up today

Oil producing Venezuela taken care of not the Septics can turn their attention to Iran.

I just hope our Government can find some cajones and say NO. We don't want to meddle in the Middle East again to help your oil producers!
Report edy • July 22, 2019 1:17 PM BST
Whisperingdeath • July 22, 2019 12:42 PM BST
Here are some questions

Why did we HIJACK an Iranian ship? What fceking business was it of ours?


If you are a wolf that wishes to distance itself from its current pack, despite having been one of the alphas of the pack, you sometimes gotta make yourself the very obedient lapdog of a truly big dog and do its dirty deeds and bidding.
Report tobermory • July 22, 2019 8:18 PM BST
weren't we being obedient to EU sanctions Confused
Report edy • July 22, 2019 8:42 PM BST
You actually believe that cover story? I don't think the EU orders soon-not-to-be members (or any other member) to use their military to hijack any ships. As far as I know, any EU sanctions are about EU countries or companies exporting oil to Syria anyway. Not about hijacking ships from random other countries that try to get oil to Iran.

It just so happened that coincidentally the US's lapdog, and not any of the other EU countries, intervened? Coincidentally as tensions between the US and Iran were rising (and I think the EU oil embargo sanctions towards Syria have been there since 2011).

Also

Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister and co-chair of the European council on foreign relations, pinpointed the ambiguities of the British action in Gibraltar: “The legality of the UK seizure of a tanker heading for Syria with oil from Iran intrigues me. One refers to EU sanctions against Syria, but Iran is not a member of the EU. And the EU as a principle doesn’t impose its sanctions on others. That’s what the US does.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/20/gulf-crisis-tanker-retaliation-iran-hormuz

Josep Borrell also dismissed the UK's very, very transparent cover story and attempt to mislead the public about the true reasons.
Report edy • July 22, 2019 8:44 PM BST
*Not about hijacking ships from random other countries that try to get oil to Syria, and that random country coincidentally happened to be Iran

sorry
Report edy • July 22, 2019 8:50 PM BST
It's pretty darn obvious this stunt happened because of the special relationship of lapdog and master between the UK and US.
Report dave1357 • July 22, 2019 9:03 PM BST
and then lol, trump says "look after your own ships".   The right wing have found more ways to humiliate Britain than was ever thought possible.
Report lfc1971 • July 22, 2019 9:04 PM BST
And how is that a problem for the UK ?
It’s not our boat , it’s not our oil , and it has a foreign crew ,
Let Sweden or the eu sort it out we don’t care
Report lfc1971 • July 22, 2019 9:09 PM BST
Now I suggest the Swedish pm stops whining  at Britain and the US and starts whining at Iran
For stealing it’s oil and imprisioning it’s crew
See how that goes
Report SontaranStratagem • July 22, 2019 9:29 PM BST
Trump is only there to absolutely destroy the wests stranglehold of power

The fat git has done nothing but threaten without actually doing one thing?

If I was the alt right, right wing nutbars I'd be demanding him gone as well
Report lfc1971 • July 22, 2019 9:33 PM BST
Trump of course is right when he says look after your own ships
If Sweden or the eu wants his help that they ought to be nicer , good
Report lfc1971 • July 22, 2019 9:36 PM BST
That of course includes the usual anti American suspects in Britain , and on here
Don’t be rude and expect America’s help  , it’s bad manners
Report Baphornet • July 22, 2019 9:37 PM BST
someone tipped us off about the ship in Gib water; any assumptions as to who?
Report lfc1971 • July 22, 2019 9:40 PM BST
I don’t care as long as it was illegal it should have been stopped

Of course I don’t want Britain stopping or protecting any ship ...unless it is a British ship with British oil with British crew
The rest of the countries , such as Sweden and the eu will have to look after themselves
Report edy • July 23, 2019 7:50 AM BST

Jul 22, 2019 -- 9:04PM, lfc1971 wrote:


And how is that a problem for the UK ?It’s not our boat , it’s not our oil , and it has a foreign crew , Let Sweden or the eu sort it out we don’t care


lfc, do you understand that Carl Bildt simply pointed out how transparently your government is lying to you about the true reasons of their seizure of the Iranian ship?

He is not asking Britain to protect Swedish ships.

Report edy • July 23, 2019 7:57 AM BST

Jul 22, 2019 -- 9:03PM, dave1357 wrote:


and then lol, trump says "look after your own ships".

Report edy • July 23, 2019 7:59 AM BST
^ yeah, that was fun (though wasn't it Pompeo?). First the US proxy that is the UK seizes a ship at the request of the US, then when Iran retaliates tit-for-tat, the US government is all "Dudes, can't you even look after your own ships"

#specialrelationship
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 9:09 AM BST
The eu doesn’t have a special relationship with the US edy , too bad , lol
Report detraveller • July 23, 2019 11:38 AM BST
UK will always go to war on America's orders. There is no doubt about that. The thing the americans are p1ssed at is how the british people spoiled the relationship with EU, which almost always supplied troops for these wars as well. Maybe this is just a plan to show the people how important EU is and therefore how bad brexit will be, once UK is left on its own and america starts playing tough. You only have to look at the govt's fooling of the public on brexit to see it wasn't a desired result.

But at the end of the day, all that is needed is a bunch of troops willing to fight a war without asking questions. I don't think UK has any shortage of people like that(lfc would be a perfect candidate though he might be overage, but there are many like him). This war with Iran though, I don't see it happening.
Report detraveller • July 23, 2019 11:40 AM BST

Jul 23, 2019 -- 9:09AM, lfc1971 wrote:


The eu doesn’t have a special relationship with the US edy , too bad , lol


This is very true. If you are supplying sheep to participate in war, in unlimited quantity and without asking any questions, you deserve a special relationship. Unfortunately we don't have that because our leaders, also morons like yours, asked questions before supplying sheep, and outright refused on some occasions.

'Special relationship' is just a nicer way of saying 'the biggest lapdog'

Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:03 PM BST
Exactly so detraveller , now remember that and the eu can send it’s own warships to the straits
Don’t expect the U.K. or America to help thanks
Report edy • July 23, 2019 12:27 PM BST
It's the UK that has been asking France, Germany and others for help.
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:36 PM BST
Ah no edy , it’s Sweden’s ship not ours
Now if the EU want it back they can ask Iran , good luck we’re not interested
Report Baphornet • July 23, 2019 12:40 PM BST
i actually agree with lfc; tell the EU to sort it, send the Deutsche Marine & Le Royale on their travels
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:42 PM BST
The sheer gall of Germany and France and Sweden etc to think that the U.K. should have to send British gunships to rescue their boat , deary me
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:45 PM BST
Britain has quite enough warships to protect British boats and British crew
We’ve done it right through the Iran Irak war and at other times
That’s all we are prepared to do now that’s how it is
Report edy • July 23, 2019 12:46 PM BST
OMG, lfc is secretly GERMAN! Why else would he ever spell it Irak instead of Iraq?
Report edy • July 23, 2019 12:46 PM BST
Got ya all figured out, buddy.
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:46 PM BST
So yes , forget about any special relationship , unfortunately times up
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 12:48 PM BST
Such nationalistic concerns are not for me edy , I live on the earth like everyone else
That’s my viewpoint
Report detraveller • July 23, 2019 12:52 PM BST
lfc exposed
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 1:01 PM BST
Lol , nonsense I am British and I thank God for that life and all it’s rich blessings :)
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 1:02 PM BST
Africa with all its deserts would not be more foreign to me than Germany
Report lfc1971 • July 23, 2019 1:03 PM BST
Or indeed some parts of London :(
Report Whisperingdeath • July 23, 2019 2:43 PM BST
We have some great desserts in England

Gypsy tart! yum
Report tictacman1 • July 24, 2019 4:28 PM BST
The crew of a British-flagged tanker that was seized in the Gulf are "safe", the vessel's owner has said after speaking to them for the first time.

The British-flagged Stena Impero and its 23 crew were taken by Iran's Revolutionary Guard on Friday.

The owner, Stena Bulk, made contact on Tuesday with the ship's master who said they were safe and there was good co-operation with the Iranians on board.

The vessel seizure came amid heightened tensions between Iran and the UK.

Iran said it had detained the Stena Impero on 19 July because it collided with a fishing boat, but Stena Bulk has said it has received no evidence of a collision.
Report Whisperingdeath • July 24, 2019 4:40 PM BST
The owner, Stena Bulk, made contact on Tuesday with the ship's master who said they were safe and there was good co-operation with the Iranians on board.

All good so far!

Why don't we tell the IRG to get in contact with the owners of this ship?

Because we don't give a fcek!
Report Whisperingdeath • August 13, 2019 3:15 PM BST
Heard the Iranian Tanker might be released shortly.

Questions need to be asked as to why and under what authority we stopped their tanker?

We are not The Pirates of the High Seas anymore!
Report Whisperingdeath • August 13, 2019 3:18 PM BST
lfc

do you know the current Royal Family are of German extraction? German was the first language of our current crop of Monarchs first imported here 300 years ago? You do know Phil the Greek, the father of our next King was German and his sisters married prominent members of the Nazi Party?

You should be proud to be British and thank Got in himmel!
Report Baphornet • August 16, 2019 11:47 PM BST
USA issues warrant for the seizure of oil tanker Stena Impero
Report Whisperingdeath • August 17, 2019 10:27 PM BST
Piracy alive and well

The real terrorist’s are across the Atlantic
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