John Leslie charged with a sex assault again

So what?...how does it effect your life?.....or does it?

Come on you're playing the game now.

No. answer the question ,how does it effect you?..believe me chap I’m not having a go

Try asking a again later after the mad saturday glut of sports.

denzil………….when they acquitted him last time are you saying the judge 2 lawyers  and the 12 jurors should take a trip to specsavers??

Where's the 'head in hands man'?

The CCTV showed she was a liar but iyo he still did it.I really don't know what to say to you.

I'll pray for you portmanplank.

denzil………...are you thick.She claimed he molested her the CCTV painted a different story but iyo opinion despite the evidence he did it.I really don't know where to go with this.

.I really don't know where to go with this.

I know you don't,read the opinion post containing a question to the forum an opinion,and a link to an article people then discuss their opinions and the facts what are you trying to prove?

*opening post*

If he is not Guilty , you would have to feel for him a career totally destroyed .

Without a doubt

simple question...………..although the case was chucked out IYO did he sexually assault that women ??…………...its a yes or no

Jul 13, 2019 -- 10:42AM, portmanpark wrote:

simple question...………..although the case was chucked out IYO did he sexually assault that women ??…………...its a yes or no

It's not as straightforward as that you couldn't say for sure either way nobody can we are merely guessing.

The case that was chucked out NO,this one we're guessing.

Goat ? Denzil?

won't present blue peter again [nap]

Jul 13, 2019 -- 12:05PM, conditor wrote:

Goat ? Denzil?

conditor you talk in riddles needed mouse muldoon to interpret the last one what are you on about?
pm me if you don't want to say it on here.

Riddles? Ok ,the guy maybe guilty,or not ,guilty ,but it’s pushed via media to suggest that the people responsible are brought to justice,when you belong to a club, those at the bottom are sacrificed,does that explain?

In other words Denzil thier all at it

Ok get you now,just so you know the thread was started as general chit chat like the others I've got no knowledge of anything beyond the public gaze but don't doubt for 1 second what you're alluding to.

Fair comment sir, but you have to look at the whole picture,Savill was destroyed by a lone wolf,who was destroyed,savill had many many friends

Sorry that is a riddle, the person who went for savill got destroyed,...ie ....

I get it the subsequent house of cards collapse means justice can't be done.

As I say sir don’t believe propaganda,ie ,www,bbc,Facebook,it’s thier to influence your mind,to conform,,now there’s one going around about Iran,it’s all about oil prices bud,......

I agree with what you are saying,btw you missed my house of cards pun.

I did, sorry my ignorance...

I haven't seen any more details about this case but I will be curious when the facts come out.

Does this mean that the woman went to the police ten years after the 'assault' because maybe he patted her bum?   All these women going to the police ten, twenty, thirty years after the 'assault' when it would be very difficult if not impossible to prove.  Why not report it at the time?  There should be a time limit to report assault cases.

It posses a question annie

It's very probable annie that they've reported them at the time and been shouted down 'your word against mine' back then.

Yep agreed ,or maybe a few where fingered in parliament (pardon the pun) just lately let’s take the heat away?

It isn't 'probable' at all, Denzil.  I have read umpteen cases where they have reported the 'crime' years, decades after and admitted that they did not report it at the time, saying that was because they were 'traumatised'.  What for thirty years?

denzil………...how are we guessing...…………..they had the CCTV of the alleged incident....he did ZERO wrong...………..not being nasty but are you thick??

Easy tiger, don’t call people thick..grow up

See this is what happens,2 guys have a discussion,(right or wrong) another enters the fray, disagrees the post ,before you know it the fooking sheep join the queue in the long line to the ice cream van,(only 2 at the other)

Ladies and gentlemen rise, the court of "No Smoke Without Fire" is in session, pitchforks will be handed out later.

And your take JC?

Jul 13, 2019 -- 1:21PM, portmanpark wrote:

denzil………...how are we guessing...…………..they had the CCTV of the alleged incident....he did ZERO wrong...………..not being nasty but are you thick??

portman please read the thread from the start in a calm manner.

The guy is wrong denzil. No views just a sheep,if you mention bellwether the guy would be lost

Not another conspiracy theory.

Who conspired ak

The fat controller and the thin controller.

He's been charged 5 times but has never been convicted with the cases either not going to court or him being found not guilty.
I never knew that. Always thought he had been convicted.
Irrespective of that this allegation is from December 2008 and hes being accused of touching her inappropriately.
Nearly 11 years ago. Unless shes got witnesses this would seem a waste of time.

11 year old case

Still time for Emily to lodge a complaint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbuY_vq5gD8

denzil………...don't think you are listening...………..its not like you said a case of guessing there was CCTV evidence...……..It showed leslie acted the perfect gentleman and did nothing wrong...…...she in the words of the judge was lying hence the case collapsing...…………...please please tell me whats tripping you up???

denzil………...don't think you are listening...………..its not like you said a case of guessing there was CCTV evidence...……..It showed leslie acted the perfect gentleman and did nothing wrong...…...she in the words of the judge was lying hence the case collapsing...…………...please please tell me whats tripping you up???

Whose been a busy boy getting posts removed then?
portmanplank are you John?

Is your abusive bigoted thread still there on the Boxing forum?

portmanpark • July 13, 2019 4:42 PM BST
simple question...………..although the case was chucked out IYO did he sexually assault that women ??…………...its a yes or no

DenzilPenberthy • July 13, 2019 4:43 PM BST

It's not as straightforward as that you couldn't say for sure either way nobody can we are merely guessing.

DenzilPenberthy • July 13, 2019 4:44 PM BST

The case that was chucked out NO,this one we're guessing.

I've told you to read the thread carefully but you haven't bothered so I'm giving you pity despite the liklihood of you getting my opening post removed despite there being nothing wrong with it.

Thanks for the apology in advance.

Your eagerness to defend Leslie seems worrying to me I'm now sure of the opinion he's been at it for years and has been dodging bullets left right and centre probably being protected for one reason or another who knows why.
Remember this is an anonymous open forum where people share opinions and ideas,because someone elses differs from yours you shouldn't go crying to moderators to get their posts removed especially when you are one of the biggest bigots on the forum who calls people names out of the blue when you don't like what they write.
Are you John Leslie?

I am not being funny butif there is CCTV evidence how the f*** do you want him convicted.I know nothing about leslie but everyone deserves a fair trial.You are saying sod the evidence I think he is a dodgy character no smoke without fire convict him.The court system  doesn't work like that its based on evidence not what you would like the mob rule.

I will try one last time...…………….if you was a juror at that trial.You probably would have gone in with your pre conceived ideas he was dodgy...….a wrong un... no smoke without fire.Then you see the alleged incident in which leslie did nothing wrong.Are you really telling me you would have ignored your own eyes and still voted guilty????????????????………….no long essays...……………..guilty or not guilty

portman you are still talking about the old one,I've been talking about the new one where we haven't seen any evidence.

Anyway portman you are asking me to make comments about an ongoing investigation and after receiving legal advice from my solicitor I can't say that John Leslie is guilty (or not) as my near 500,000 social media followers share my posts on FB Twitter Whatsap Instagram etc. and it could jeopardise the case.

Its still a simple question...………..guilty or not guilty??

Heard a rumour this morning that one cold night John got his blue peter out in front of one of the future cooks (who appeared on Wheel of Fortune) she said that's a 'mega machine' and gave her one behind a bus stop,he asked was it good for? She said ok but a bit fast like a formula 1 car,nevermind said John I'm a survivor.
But like I say it was just a rumour.

was it good for you?

portman why is this Leslie case so important to you?
You didn't moan like this on the R Kelly thread and he's up for being a paedo.

When I said he was acquitted you said we cant really say he is innocent we would only be guessing and for the hundredth time it was chucked out because they had the cctv pictures which proved she was lying.I think you are deliberately being dense.

I said no to that @ 4:44pm this afternoon that's what I've been trying to tell you read the thread.

Denzil…………..you are really showing yourself to be an odious character.I believe in the british justice system.Would you rather leslie be in jail now for something he didn't do because you think he is a wrong un.The justice system you want would be crazy.Leslie may well have broken the law and sexually assaulted women but without evidence or a confession we must presume someone is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.Surely you believe in that.The woman ihe that last case if there wasn't CCTV might have won the case in which I suspect her motive was money.

I said I thought he was not guilty of the crime that was thrown out @ 4:44pm how hard is this for you to understand?

Ive only talked about the trial he was acquitted for.You know that.I will try once more.If you was a juror on that case and saw leslie act the perfect gentleman in the CCTV footage would you have still found him guilty....its a simple yes or no answer.

I said I thought he was not guilty of the crime that was thrown out @ 4:44pm how hard is this for you to understand?

I answered NO at 4:44pm you've been calling me names and ranting for nothing all day.

And you reported my post for nothing

If I had been a juror I would always be inclined to believe the victim.Why would she put herself through such an ordeal would be my thought but when you have irrefutable evidence then surely you must do the right thing.You are driving me mad.It such a simple thing to grasp.

I didn't report your post I don't how to.

I would always be inclined to believe the evidence.

Think John Leslie reported my post he likes to spin the wheel so a gambling site like this would be right up his street.

So portman when will you be apologising for calling me names?

The fact you have labelled me a paedo supporter is not actually a very nice thing.I believe in justice.If a person does those sort of horrible things they should be thrown in jail and chuck away the key.We cant convict people if its one persons word against another.It needs supporting evidence not hear say and tittle tattle.

When did I label you a paedo supporter?

I called you an odious character because you seem to hate just about everybody.It was a simple question I asked you.There was only one answer and it was an easy question to answer.Every thread you put up is calling in to question some minority group of people.

portmanpark • July 14, 2019 2:06 AM BST
The fact you have labelled me a paedo supporter is not actually a very nice thing

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

You asked if I was john leslie because I was defending the british justice system and  I Dont know who r Kelly is??

DenzilPenberthy • July 14, 2019 2:12 AM BST
Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

DenzilPenberthy • July 14, 2019 2:12 AM BST
Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

DenzilPenberthy • July 14, 2019 2:14 AM BST
DenzilPenberthy • July 14, 2019 2:12 AM BST
Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

Why are you telling lies portman?

When did I label you a paedo supporter? Please provide evidence

portmanpark Can you please explain why you are telling lies and calling another forum user names for no reason?

Were you trying to get me banned?

portmanpark Can you please explain why you are telling lies and calling another forum user names for no reason?
Please provide evidence where I label you a paedo supporter

Why can't you provide this evidence portmanpark?

You aren't a multi username type are you portmanpark? either way  why are you telling lies and calling another forum user names for the second day on the trot unprovoked? show the proof.

YOu say that my support for the leslie is worrying which strongly suggests I am wrong or have some motive for supporting who in your opinion is a sexual predator.In other words giving support to a rapist.The fact is leslie as never been convicted.What happened to innocent until proven guilty which I strongly believe in but your preferred option is he looks a wrong un no smoke with out fire therefore he is guilty.I just pointed out the case against him was dropped because the evidence pointed only one way.Now you may be right and leslie may be as you say a wrong un but you need proof not hear say.

portmanpark this is very poor trolling you are a liar who has came on multiple threads calling me names and telling lies without any proof,you are clearly trying to provoke me to get me banned from this forum despite YOU being the one who is breaking the guidelines of the forum.
Everyone can see what's going on and if I'm going to get banned from here it'll be for something I'VE done not from the actions of a proven liar like yourself.

You started the thread saying leslie was a wrong un  suggesting he had got away with raping ulrika Johnsen.I just pointed out in his one case that got to court  leslie was proven without a shadow of doubt 100% innocent.You cant get any better than film of the alleged incident.Where did I lie??

I called you a bigot on other threads because you are an huge fan of a far right racist in tommy robinson.You started a thread about transgender people.How more biggotted can you get.

There is a saying when some says I am not racist but...………….it almost always means they are racist

I just pointed out in his one case that got to court  leslie was proven without a shadow of doubt 100% innocent.You cant get any better than film of the alleged incident.

Not correct PP. The verdict was Not Proven which is a verdict peculiar to Scottish Law. He claimed outside the court 'without a shadow of doubt' but that is at odds with the verdict.
Incorrect to say the tv evidence proved his innocence as it in itself was inconclusive. 2 witnesses, a friend of the accuser and a dfriend of Leslie, gave conflicting evidence.

poor John never got over everyone laughing seeing his 4 inch willy, serenading Abi

portmanpark with more fairy stories and no proof,people can read this is the worst factually inept trolling of all time despite lieing all the way through this thread and the other still doesn't know where he lied.
It'd be harder pointing out where you didn't lie.
Please stop trying to provoke me into a ban it's not a nice thing to do especially when you are a blatant liar as proven on these threads,and someone who obviously has issues with Religion as proven on the Boxing Forum (the thread is still there) suggest you get it removed before too many see it as I know you reported the this thread and pretty sure another about homosexuals (not transgender) another lie proven for you there.

Just like the school playground, is he guilty? Is he not?...for 2 people to argue over so called celebrities is wrong ... your life is worth more ,this is why the world has gone tits up