I've just walked to the shops and you won't guess what I saw

I'm sure there's people out there that don't see real life

This would have worked so much better if it was in her kitchen.

I'm not going that way again no matter how longer the journey is

It looked really comfortable snuggled into a ball on the first step no wonder it moved
It looked at me as if to say what you looking at

It can't be easy being a rat living amongst rows of terraced houses, you should pick it up and take it out into the countryside. Poor little thing.

How many people do you know whose had a rat looking at them wondering what their looking at .It doesn't end there I think to myself is it normal to talk to yourself wondering what a rat is thinking

The lady that lived next door was more interested in telling the driver off who was parked in front of her house than worrying about a rat on next doors step .
The driver couldn't apologise enough and promised he wouldn't do it again

Maybe the rat had a permit.

Are you sure it wasn't a door mouse?

No it was definitely a rat you should of seen its long tail .I've got a feeling the owners of the house might feed it ,because of how it looked so comfortable

You're lucky you don't live in London. We've got rats the size of cats down here.

It was the way the lady said it's always sat there .As if it was me who was the problem

...and some of them end up being sold as meat in certain markets and shops.

Nick here we go again Londoners think theve got bigger rats than us up north .

If we've got a tower with a clock you've got a bigger one.
If we've got a town hall you've got the houses of parliament .
If we've got Salford cathedral you've got at Paul's
If we've got the Halle orchestra you've got the royal philharmonic orchestra

We are not  all poor up here in the north

It's only degenerates like me who drink and gamble all their money away .
There are some who shop at habitat and ikea

Some even have second homes on caravan and tent sites

I've stated many a time when I used to have loads of money I always ordered two prawn cocktails for my starter

And ordered three prawn cocktails. When the sea food man sold his wares in the pubs and many a time gone back to him and had another two

I put all my money into Barlow Clowes.

and I never left the empty cartons on the table I always put them in a litter bin

Used to be crustaceans like the ones in your cocktails were seen as sort of vermin, not suited for consumption and definitely not kosher. Maybe you're not yet enlightened enough to consider that rat a pet

As a fellow drunken degenerate I know it is possible you've mistaken this rat for something else animal entirely. Can you go back and try to pet it?

I put most my money into collorall and ratners   shares the day that Gerald  ratner disclosed to the press  at an evening dinner party ,that the items he sold were cheap rubbish and the share price collapsed .I was once one of the top 100 shareholders in British steel and lost money in them .but the one that really got to me was when I invested in shares in Brent walker whose board was made up of Billy walker the ex British champion boxer and his boxing brother amongst others .They owned  William hill and a pub chain as well as other interests I thought if I can't beat William hill ill join them .I bought two hundred thousand shares in Brent walker and they ended up going into liquidation .I still have the share certificate saying I own two hundred thousand shares in them .just before they went into liquidation they were made to sell William hills and my shares are not worth a single penny
A fool and his money are soon parted my fav saying .
I now lay here and can't even say poor me poor me poor me another one as a recovering alcoholic

To all those who don't think I know what a rat is .I can tell you 100% that it was a rat .I've encounted door mouse's ordinary mouse's and rats many a time I know what they look like especially a rat

To all those who don't think I know what a rat is .I can tell you 100% that it was a rat .I've encounted door mouse's ordinary mouse's and rats many a time I know what they look like especially a rat

If learned anything from utube videos it's that you can't be sure until you've pet it

Maybe it was a Siberian hamster?

Opossum.. they have similar tail. Did the rat per chance look like a small burglar?

When I was about 6 I saw what I thought was a massive bumble bee, it was actually a sparrow in a black and yellow jumper.

When I was about 8 my dad took me in a pub to go to the toilet, whilst in there I saw a black man with a white c0ck, I shouted my my dad to come in, he said its ok he is a miner that has been home for his lunch! I didnt understand that until I was about 18.

once saw what I thought was a parrot on my balcony, turned out it was just a wet pigeon

it was soaked so its coat of(?) feathers looked way different. like parrot

there was probably alcohol or something involved

Are you sure it wasn't a vole they look very similar to rats, would be an easy mistake to make?

I think you need to go back there tomorrow with a camera, take some pictures and post them on here, let us experts identify it for you.

I agree with nick i didn't use the cheap share dealing services .I had my own broker at the prestigious firm of HENRY- COOKE- LUMSDEN At number one king street in manchesterthe  one  the the most affluent business streets if not the number one.

They wanted to advise me but I would not take their advice I made all the decisions myself I would not pay for advice as I didnt even take advice for free in them days ago

There's people with billions and trillions waiting for mugs like me to invest and then they manipulate the exchange to suit themselves .and to fleece idiots like me and they succeeded

Be very careful with share dealing .there are sharks out there that make bookmakers look like mary Poppins .they are leagues above us small fish who will eat you and spit you out when your skint

I agree with nick i didn't use the cheap share dealing services .I had my own broker at the prestigious firm of HENRY- COOKE- LUMSDEN At number one king street in manchesterthe  one  the the most affluent business streets if not the number one.

They wanted to advise me but I would not take their advice I made all the decisions myself I would not pay for advice as I didnt even take advice for free in them days ago

There's people with billions and trillions waiting for mugs like me to invest and then they manipulate the exchange to suit themselves .and to fleece idiots like me and they succeeded

Be very careful with share dealing .there are sharks out there that make bookmakers look like mary Poppins .they are leagues above us small fish who will eat you and spit you out when your skint

I was there sober and only feet from it .I saw it on the first step and on the second step while you lot presume what you think I saw
I m the one the jury would listen to

Dowah, since the lady said it is always there can you post coordinates in street-view?

could have been a garden ornament, they get up to look very realistic these days.

NOFX  Even though I know how to write coordinates as I studied BS308 AT COLLEDGE .I WILL NOT BE POSTING THEM ON HERE .

I MIGHT KNOW WHAT A RAT LOOKS LIKE  and what BS3080 is all about ( front view side view plan view etc) but I'm not pressing buttons on my iPad as it irritates me when I don't know what are the right buttons .and I'm 70 this month and I'm not learning

NOFX  Even though I know how to write coordinates as I studied BS308 AT COLLEDGE .I WILL NOT BE POSTING THEM ON HERE .

I MIGHT KNOW WHAT A RAT LOOKS LIKE  and what BS3080 is all about ( front view side view plan view etc) but I'm not pressing buttons on my iPad as it irritates me when I don't know what are the right buttons .and I'm 70 this month and I'm not learning

If you're 70 how old was this lady exactly?

Besides being 70 I've a wonky I pad .and I wouldn't even be bothered to learn if it was a new one .I've never been interested in education but I must admit I didn't know that the ussr is not called that anymore it's called Russia because certain areas had had enough .You won't believe how many different areas there are and how big it is until you you tube it .I bet half them Russians don't know who their neighbours are in the other regions

I don't know how old the lady was .I was brought up with manners and told not to ask ladies how old they are unless they look young and you want to have sex with them .and you want  to make sure your doing nothing illigal

I just didn't know that at that age ageism is still a thing

That aside I am now dying to see a picture of this rat or dying cat or whatever it was

I've had an iPad with a camera for years and never taken a picture before and I'm not standing outside some ones house wondering what buttons to press .

Not only will people think imm odd but I might scare the RAT and it might attack me .It looks game enough but I'm taking no chances

Tame enough not game enough

NOFX that's it you've asked enough questions .you can't just come on my threads because it's about wildlife .you are welcome on my next threads but you can't expect to just appear out of thin air and start doubting what I saw

I'm going now from this thread you've exausted my brain

that makes two of us :)

but okay I can live with your tame rat sleeping idyllically on a porch. frankly I don't see anything wrong with it

good thread I enjoyed it

Do wah, your mind can play tricks on you. Only last week I thought I saw a dodgy-looking thug right outside my window until I realised it was a reflection.

Hi do Wah. Take no notice of the naysayers. I know what you saw, it was a large black Chihuahua rat from Mexico. My mam had one when she was old and she loved it. Fed it every day on meaty chunky bites with gravy. Did it wag its tail at you as you approached? My mam's did and it would roll over to have its tummy tickled.

You have enough problems Do Wah, without getting yourself involved with other peoples rats

You wouldn't believe the size of some of those rats I saw in Paris .

As I waiting in line to go through passport control at Calais , I talked to a young American from New York ,
I happened to mentioned the Parisian rats to him and he remarked that when he saw one outside a roadside night cafe ,
he thought it was a Possum .

I've been to several rod stewart concerts when I was drinking but I remember going to my first rod stewart cocert sober when I stopped drinking and I was terrified .My daughter bought us both tickets .I had a good night but the best part was when I left the Manchester area and a rat was upside down on its back with its four legs in the air .I said to my daughter is it dead and she replied no it's drunk it's had your share of the beer tonight

Areana not area

Do Wah

My previous cat brought in a rat one night. Then let it go.

I never did find it again, I brought a human rat trap and baited it but never caught him.

A few years later looking in an old draw I found it was a nest of paper, but no sign of the rat himself.

That was 10 years ago, and I hoping he is dead now, rats don't usually live long.

But I have never found the rat or his body.

sounds like crags

human rat trap *humane

When young kids we were in the back garden and saw a rat
my brother was only about 9 or so (both of us only primary school age anyway )
And we followed it and cornered it at the back of the garage , it raised itself up on its hind legs
And my young brother killed it with one strike of a spade
I was very impressed with that , stunned really

When we our dad he said make sure you don’t tell your mum
And we never did

The avenue I used to live in when I was married had men digging the road up to replace the sewer pipes.
I heard a noise in the garage and saw what I thought was mouse droppings .my wife said there rat droppings I  insisted they wasn't she said ones escaped from the sewers .I said is that where they put them when there naughty .
She said I'm not bothered what you think I want you to clean and tidy the garage up tomorrow and clean behind the washing machine.
I did ,she came to inspect my work and said that washing machine hasn't been moved I insisted it won't be behind there .she said I want you to clean behind there .I shouted it's a waste of time doing that but she made me .
As I moved the washing machine the rat flew threw a small opening in the wooden garage door
We both flew in the kitchen and I locked and bolted the door behind us incase the rat tried to break down the door
She said your not going to the pub tonight leaving me while that's in there .I said it's ran Way and went to the in with her shouting at me
The following day I went to the hardware shop and bought a rat trap and some rat poison .I put the poison in some jam jar lids and placed them in the garage one near the washing machine
I got some steak out of the fridge and asked my wife if I should cook it before I put it in the rat trap.she said she didn't know sink cooked it and put it in the rat trap
The following day the rat must have pulled the lid of the jam jar under the washing machine as it disappeared .It also must have been a vegetarian as it left the steak .I was told rats left where they nested to die.
The poison must have worked as we never saw it again

You wouldn't believe the noise it made getting through that small gap in the door

make your haye...yes humane

Do Wah

The biggest rat story of all, the Bubonic Plague.

|Spread from the East to the West.

We have found all the bodies of people killed by the plague, but not the bodies of rats

So they have been blamed unfairly.

Mind you since rats live in sewers, which must be beyond imaganing for filth

Best to stay away from rats.

I once went to Urmston  near the Trafford center with my mam to kentucky fried chicken .my mam used to take her own buttered bread to put her chips on .
We sat near a window and i could see the drive through and i saw two baby rats feeding near the drive through window.i ate my food and then complained to the manager .he said he knew of the problem and was in the process of getting something done about it .I phoned up customer services and they sent me some free vouchers

This is the end of my rat thread

For me

Well you have raised chit chat's awareness of Rats and their problems well done

Do Wah

There was a lot of rocking going on that night
Cruising time for the young bright lights
Just down past the gasworks, by the meat factory door
The five lamp boys were coming on strong
The Saturday night city beat had already started
And the, the pulse of the corner boys just sprang into action
And young Billy watched it all under the yellow street light
And said "tonight of all nights, there's gonna be a fight"
Billy don't like it living here in this town
He says the traps have been sprung long before he was born
He says "hope bites the dust behind all the closed doors"
And pus and grime ooze from its scab crusted sores
There's screaming and crying in the high-rise blocks"
It's a rat trap Billy, but you're already caught
And you can make it if you wanna or you need it bad enough
You're young and good-looking and you're acting kind of tough
Anyway it's Saturday night time to see what's going down
Put on the bright suit Billy, head for the right side of town
It's only 8 o'clock but you're already bored
You don't know what it is but, there's got to be more
You'd better find a way out, hey kick down that door
It's a rat trap and you've been caught
In this town Billy says "everybody's trying to tell you what to do"
In this town Billy says "everybody says you gotta follow rules"
You walk up to those traffic lights
You switch from your left to right
You push in that button and that button comes alight
And hits you
"Walk, don't walk
Walk, don't walk
Talk, don't talk
Talk, don't talk"
"Walk, don't walk
Walk, don't walk
Talk, don't talk
Talk, don't talk"
Hey Billy take a walk, take a walk, take a walk
Billy take a walk, take a walk, take a walk
Billy take a walk, take a walk, take a walk
Hey Billy, take a walk with me
Take a walk that leads to me
Sweet high school blues
Oh little Judy's trying to watch "top of the pops"
But mum and dad are fighting don't they ever stop
She takes off her coat and walks down into the street
It's cold on that road, but it's got that home beat
Deep down in her pockets she finds 50p
Hey is that any way for a young girl to be?
I'm gonna get out of school work in some factory
Work all the hours God gave me get myself a little easy money
Now, now, now na na
Her mind's made up, she walks down the road
Her hands in her pockets, coat buttoned 'gainst the cold
She finds Billy down at the Italian cafe
And when he's drunk it's hard to understand what Billy says
But then he mumbles in his coffee and he suddenly roars
"It's a rat trap Judy; and we've been caught"
Rat trap, you've been caught


Not the biggest fan of boomtown but for me the best they did.

rats! You are a good judge Do Wah, I agree,