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lybertyne
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Report Whisperingdeath July 23, 2019 2:56 PM BST
DT

Do you really believe they were fake?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 2:57 PM BST
Nope Detroller. I stopped reading your tripe yonks ago when i exposed you as a fraud with your air fones fiasco
Report Whisperingdeath July 23, 2019 2:57 PM BST
There is a bloke who lost part of his leg, lives near a pal of mine. He had the whole leg before 7/7.  I don't think he would accept free rent for the rest of his life as payment for losing half his leg. He has also got a free car and disabled bay.
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 2:58 PM BST

Jul 23, 2019 -- 2:56PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


DTDo you really believe they were fake?


WD get out of here asap. Just trust me. Leave this thread. Now.

Report Whisperingdeath July 23, 2019 3:00 PM BST
Winkok
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:01 PM BST
Never trust him Mr Death. He doesnt know the meaning of the word truth Grin
Report terry mccann July 23, 2019 3:01 PM BST
Whisper strange he uses the word "fake", it certainly wasn't a fake but many believe it to be a false flag,there is a huge differences between the two.
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:02 PM BST
Can we please talk about queen elizabeth and chemtrails now?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:05 PM BST
Its ok Terry you have exposed him. Well done. Now everyone will know wherever you stand on the ladder he is one rung behind you Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:06 PM BST
One small step for Terry, One giant step required for Detroller Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:07 PM BST
I think you have nailed him again there Terry lad. Lets see Grin
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:11 PM BST
Switzerland just reported its first injury due to 5G and you guys think its all a joke.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:13 PM BST
Get it on the right thread Detroller. Terry will deal with you over there as well. Game set and match to Terry here i feel
Report terry mccann July 23, 2019 3:15 PM BST
Sorry to say detroller,you have used the word "fake" which means in English as not real,7/7 was very real,everybody is saying that,until you get a better grasp please don't post anymore as you are getting a little tiresome with your lack of the lingo
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:16 PM BST
The problem you have Detroller is that your brush has been tarred. Now many will just look at your posts and simply giggle. Bizarre.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:17 PM BST
Can they come back from the power ace Terry ? Or are they finally sunk ? Laugh
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:22 PM BST
The conspiritard theories are fake as in not real, as in made up bollocks without any supporting evidence. That's lingo enough.
Report terry mccann July 23, 2019 3:23 PM BST
John,looks like it might of blown a fuse, full service neededLaugh
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:23 PM BST
He is running away from you Terry. He has made another fatal error. Maybe he is being heavily influenced by his German surroundings ? Maybe they are clouding his judgements ?? Lets see
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:24 PM BST
Charles has blown a gasket. His belief system has been smashed to smithereens
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:26 PM BST
Just keep waffling that's all you ever do. Not one shred of evidence in the whole video and yet fools like you believe it.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:26 PM BST
Thats what the truth does Terry. It always finds a way to win out. Always Grin Just takes an eternity to bring down the real criminals. One day maybe. One day
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:27 PM BST
Charlie please take a deep breath and think b4 you type. Cool
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:28 PM BST

Jul 23, 2019 -- 3:15PM, terry mccann wrote:


Sorry to say detroller,you have used the word "fake" which means in English as not real,7/7 was very real,everybody is saying that,until you get a better grasp please don't post anymore as you are getting a little tiresome with your lack of the lingo


The bombings were fake. The bombs never went off. The images you were shown were doctored. How is it possible that when the explosion happened, someone with a camera took a picture of the bus blown up in flames?

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7326230.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/Bus-Explodes-on-Lambeth-Bridge-for-filming-of-Jackie-Chan-Movie-The-Foreigner.jpg

Explain this picture to me. Looks like a professional cameraman with an HD camera had set himself up with Big Ben in the background.

Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:28 PM BST
Isn't it about time you repeated that the 07:40 train was cancelled so they couldn't have got to London on time? That's what it says in your video.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:30 PM BST
Terry,

Detroller has resorted himself to stupidity now. Do not take him on. He still hasnt answered the Power question ???

Lets just leave it there, Job done.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:30 PM BST
That's an horrific photo dt.
Report terry mccann July 23, 2019 3:30 PM BST
Is that not true chaz?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:30 PM BST
Charlie.. Any view on Power now that you have had time to think about what you have bought into ???
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:30 PM BST
I see none of you three clowns have an explanation.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:31 PM BST
Waffler
Have you taken a dose of your increased stupidity pills again?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:32 PM BST
Power Charlie ?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:33 PM BST
Dont you get it Detroller ?? You have outlived your usefulness until you get behind another " iffy " official narrative. Then you maybe have something to offer Grin
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:33 PM BST
Peter Power volunteered the information I gave above. He isn't relevant. What don't you understand about that?
Report terry mccann July 23, 2019 3:34 PM BST
So the 7.40 and the train after were cancelled and the "bombers got on the 7.25,is that what you are saying chaz?
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:34 PM BST
This is getting ridiculous now.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:36 PM BST
Power isnt relevant ????? ROFFLE. he is a big part of it Charlie. But of course you wont see that will you ??? lol
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:37 PM BST
Yes tm I went over that above.

Power isn't relevant. You're going with the conspiritards trying to make out something that's not there.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:38 PM BST
Stop Terry. They are not worthy, Laugh
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:38 PM BST
Or rather tm they caught a train at 07:25 I'm not sure what time it was timetabled for.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:38 PM BST
Gotta larf at Charlie Laugh
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:40 PM BST
Easy way to solve the train timetable issue. Lets have a look at the CCTV ? Oh no wait a minute... problem there just like at the pentagon. Never mind just another coincidence. Carry on
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:41 PM BST
They might have turned off the CCTV cameras for Power's drills and mock exercises.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:41 PM BST
Just carry on with waffle that's what you do best. No facts, no evidence, all a fake conspiracy theory. Fake, fake, fake.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:42 PM BST
Crying here lads... Crying.. You have been shot to bits on this one LaughLaughLaugh
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:43 PM BST
Pretty clear they boarded at 07:25. Just the one still-photo of them at Luton as per your video. No.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-12483037/7-7-bombers-enter-luton-train-station
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:44 PM BST
There is a conspiracy here Charlie.. Its the official narrative and you have bought it. Warts and all. And its funny as fcuk to see how you react when you realise the exit route has closed on it
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:44 PM BST
Shot to bits eh? Funny that your video doesn't mention the BBC video why is that?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:45 PM BST
Charlie... Just think about this whole episode please... You are making a complete fool of yourself
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:46 PM BST
Charlie.. Please.. have a sit down. you must know it is a deception surely ??? The billion to one coincidence tells you that ??? Again ??????
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:47 PM BST
It doesn't mention it because the whole video falls apart. Melts like snow in the sun. There's no substance to it.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:49 PM BST
Your video:

"The four men were supposed to arrive together, on time, at Luton Station, and be caught on CCTV, at 07:21:54 AM, entering the station, but three of them are not on the same video frames as Hasib Hussain, so have to be inserted later, using computer software. Hence the obviously, and very badly, doctored official single frame, time-stamped photo that we have been shown, from the CCTV outside Luton Station.

They can’t show them moving, because it has been faked, that’s why they show only one single frame still photo."


Wrong.
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 3:49 PM BST
i'm outta here
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:50 PM BST
Your video:

“If we have at least three of the four "suicide-bombers" shot dead at Canary Wharf, and we KNOW they weren't on the tube-trains that blew up, because the 07:40 AM train from Luton to King's Cross was cancelled that day, then we have overwhelming proof that they did not blow the tube-trains up, and that the blowing up of the three tube-trains was an inside-job."

Wrong they caught a train at 07:25.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:52 PM BST
Your video:

"At the Canary Wharf Docklands site there are media companies, for the Muslim patsies to have told their story to and cleared their names, if they could, and two possible escape routes, via air from the nearby London City Airport, that has flights to 34 destinations in the U.K. and Europe, and, if they couldn’t fly out, there was the possibility of getting a boat across the channel to France”.

Wrong, made up Bullsh!te.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:52 PM BST
Your so right Charlie. The whole episode is as flakey as fcuk, From beginning to end. The big problem for me is the real criminals have yet again got away with it. Fancy them entrusting that important part of the plan to Power ??? OMFG

And what about the poor people who have been murdered. ? Where is their justice ??
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 3:57 PM BST
The conspiritard theory is fake. It's all made up. Fake as in not real.

The people murdered and injured by the bombers don't deserve to have their memories sullied by conspiritard fckwits.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 3:58 PM BST
This is the video you should be concentrating on Charlie..

MSM broadcast from the day of the 7/7 bombings featuring Powell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc Stand and shake your heads at that one. Now that is a grade A 100% loon Tube production.

And this is why sane people dont buy into their crap
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 4:01 PM BST
Forget Power. Give me some evidence from the Ripple Effect that stands up to scrutiny. You can't because it's a fake theory, fake, fake fake. Not one shred of evidence in it yet loons like you believe it. Am I using the work fake so that you understand it?
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 4:01 PM BST
The murderers still running things as per normal and you just keep finding excuses for them !!!!!     FFS man I do find you quite unbelievable.

There will come a time when you have to face up to reality Charlie. I am only trying to prepare you for that moment. Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 4:02 PM BST
I dont need to.. I am waiting for Power to open that tipping line.. A billion to one winner will do for me. Grin
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 4:03 PM BST
I have had enough of you and your apologies for anyone who spreads fake theories and disregards the truth. Look at the evidence not bullsh!te movies made for money and to lure in loonies like you and tm.

You don't even understand odds.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 4:08 PM BST
You understand nothing Charlie. Nothing at all. It is quite sad really.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:15 PM BST
Although conspiracy beliefs can occasionally be based on a rational analysis of the evidence, most of the time they are not. As a species, one of our greatest strengths is our ability to find meaningful patterns in the world around us and to make causal inferences. We sometimes, however, see patterns and causal connections that are not there, especially when we feel that events are beyond our control.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-some-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories/
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:23 PM BST
Charlie you are getting this all wrong as per usual.

I have told you b4 , calling me a conspiracy theorist or conspiriturd really doesn't bother me.

You have no evidence to back up your beliefs , you only have what wiki and MSM tell you. If you want to spout your nonsense at least read it and understand it b4 you spout it !!!!!!

FFS man try to get this into your thick skull.

If you believe that Power bullshyte you will probably believe any thing they want you to believe. It is so sad that you cannot see it even when you have been helped to try and understand it ??????

“When people who are honestly mistaken are advised of the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest!”

If you cannot be honest with yourself Charlie then the rest of the world will struggle with what you say !!!!
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:29 PM BST
“When people who are honestly mistaken are advised of the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest!”

Start being honest with yourself. You'd score high on this:

Bullshit Receptivity: The Bullshit Receptivity Scale, or BSR, was introduced by Pennycock and colleagues (2015) as a way to measure susceptibility to, essentially, mumbo-jumbo.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/experimentations/201810/what-makes-conspiracy-theorists-tick
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:31 PM BST
Charlie, I am honest. I see things for what they are, I am not afraid to apologise if i get something wrong and i dont need link upon link to explain to you what i mean.

Do you not see how silly you are looking ?? It really is quite strange.
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:33 PM BST
That means conspiracy theories will probably always be this us to some extent, but there are also demographic and psychological factors that make it more likely people will believe in them, including:

Being less educated. This one hardly needs much explaining.

A desire to feel special. Those who want to stand out from the crowd (aka those with narcissistic tendencies) can adopt extreme beliefs in order to do so.

Feelings of powerlessness. An explanation for events beyond a person's control -- no matter how ludicrous those explanations sound to others -- can still be psychologically preferable to being the victim of blind chance or happenstance.

A need for certainty. "Seeking explanations for events is a natural human desire,""explains psychology professor David Ludden. "And we don't just ask questions. We also quickly find answers to those questions--not necessarily the true answers, but rather answers that comfort us or that fit into our worldview."


https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/the-best-way-to-fight-back-against-conspiracy-theorists-like-alex-jones.html
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:36 PM BST
You run out of dialogue. It goes beyond your comprehension. You resort to your usual conspiracy rantings. its always the same

What you should do is analyse what you are signing up to in the name of official narratives as sure as eggs are eggs they will come back to haunt you sometime in the future.

I am only trying to help you . trying to stop you making a fool of yourself over and over again.

Just think of that Power video. Keep thinking about it. Try and understand why you buy into it .. You still have a chance to save face Grin
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:37 PM BST
The scientists, who published their findings in the journal Current Biology, want their work to inform science educators as well as policy makers who wish to discourage the endorsement of “socially debilitating and sometimes dangerous beliefs”.

The conspiracist mind-set, they say, can inform beliefs that have real world consequences – such as denial of global warming or rejection of vaccines for children.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/conspiracy-theories-creationism-psychology-911-moon-landing-fake-a8499511.html
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:37 PM BST
Charlie, conspiracy is taking over your life. Just look at the evidence. Dont look at what you are told. See if common sense can prevail.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:38 PM BST
Again mainstream bullshyte. Think Charlie think
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:39 PM BST
Just keep pondering it over and over again. Think how stupid you are looking. I am not promoting conspiracy here. I am applying common sense,
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:41 PM BST
Scientific American
Psychology Today
Inc.com

Are MSM?

Or perhaps they know conspiritards are nutters and are being polite.

And you think I look stupid. Look at the evidence.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:41 PM BST
I am not copying and pasting anything. I am telling you what i know and what i understand. Not what someone thinks or wants me to believe.

If i see an issue i will look at it. Try to understand it and then work through it. Not just go to the wiki pages and look for confirmation. Cry
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:42 PM BST
Fck me a conspiritard who believes in all conspiritard theories denying he's a conspiritard.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:44 PM BST
But its not you Charlie is it ??? FFS man where is your own chain of thought and reasoning gone ??? With what you are doing is only underlining what i am trying to tell you.

THINK FOR YOURSELF.

Good lord man is it really that hard ???
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:44 PM BST
Name calling dont work for me Charlie. It just makes me laugh ExcitedLaugh
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:45 PM BST
In terms of cognitive processes, people with stronger conspiracy beliefs are more likely to overestimate the likelihood of co-occurring events, to attribute intentionality where it is unlikely to exist, and to have lower levels of analytic thinking.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-psychology-of-conspiracy-theories-why-do-people-believe-them/
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:47 PM BST
Charlie, forget what they are telling you ... You need to have your own thought process. Without it you become a sheep. Time is running out Charlie
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:48 PM BST
Schizotypy is the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief. In addition to experiencing the world in unusual ways, we found that people higher in schizotypy have an elevated need to feel unique, which has previously been linked with conspiracism. Why? Probably because believing in non-mainstream ideas allows people to stand out from their peers, but at the same time take refuge in a community of like-minded believers.

https://www.livescience.com/63658-why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories.html
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:51 PM BST
Charlie... get a wet flannel go and find a dark room and sit down , close your eyes and tell yourself this...

J W Henry really doesnt bother me much . He is only a figment of my internal denial system which is struggling to overcome him. I must let it go Grin
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:51 PM BST
"Importantly, Van Prooijen said his findings help make sense of why education can contribute to “a less paranoid society” even when conspiracy theories are not explicitly challenged. “By teaching children analytic thinking skills along with the insight that societal problems often have no simple solutions, by stimulating a sense of control, and by promoting a sense that one is a valued member of society, education is likely to install the mental tools that are needed to approach far-fetched conspiracy theories with a healthy dose of skepticism.”

https://bigthink.com/bps-research-digest/bps-why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 5:54 PM BST
Get yourself educated. Then look at the evidence.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:55 PM BST
The problem now is Charlie is that I have to flush you out. I know you want help deep down i know .. I will try to help you overcome this fear that everything might be a conspiracy. Its not Charlie, many maybe but not everything.

Some are just complete and utter lies which are masked with deception but you will learn how to come to terms with them if you stick with me.

Now take a deep breath and say... I am going to get through this Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 5:55 PM BST
Power to the evidence Charlie. Amen to that
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 6:00 PM BST
You will notice that i dont have to spray up links from all over the place to defend myself ???

There is a good reason for that Charlie.... That is because i know i am right Grin

I dont need countless links to fight my corner. I just speak the truth. Maybe you should try it one day ????

Fortunately for this one i just have to mention the Power interview and all else falls into place. Easy innit Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 6:00 PM BST
Just need Mex now to make my day complete Grin
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 6:02 PM BST
You're exhibiting all the signs from the links I gave above but you're too dim to relaize that.
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 6:17 PM BST
Charlie, with your health and all you shouldn't bother with these two clowns. Either have fun or leave it.
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 6:18 PM BST
Yes i agree. His mental state is a concern. Grin
Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 6:19 PM BST
Your fun ran out when Terry sorted you out Detroller. Now that was poetic justice Laugh
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 6:19 PM BST
Indeed. The fact that he still takes you seriously is a concern.
Report detraveller July 23, 2019 6:19 PM BST

Jul 23, 2019 -- 6:19PM, John.W.Henry. wrote:


Your fun ran out when Terry sorted you out Detroller. Now that was poetic justice


Yes I have been exposed. But that won't stop me from posting nonsense again.

Report John.W.Henry. July 23, 2019 6:20 PM BST
What medication is Charlie on for his Denial syndrome ? Do you know detroller ?
Report Charlie July 23, 2019 7:23 PM BST
dt thanks for kind thoughts.

I can, however, reassure you that the Waffler doesn't affect me. A person with no balls because he wont answer a single question, believes in nonsense and has no education does no more than amuse me. And the Blast is on.
Report John.W.Henry. July 24, 2019 9:53 AM BST
Up the medication Charlie. Its not working pal. You denial is worse than ever.
Report John.W.Henry. July 24, 2019 9:54 AM BST
Your *
Report John.W.Henry. July 24, 2019 9:57 AM BST
detraveller 23 Jul 19 18:19 Joined: 18 Nov 15 | Topic/replies: 22,512 | Blogger: detraveller's blog
Jul 23, 2019 -- 6:19PM, John.W.Henry. wrote:

Your fun ran out when Terry sorted you out Detroller. Now that was poetic justice


Yes I have been exposed. But that won't stop me from posting nonsense again.


Indeed. Laugh

Your confession yesterday that it is all a game to you speaks volumes for exactly who you are and what you are about Cry

Terry has been right all along Cool
Report John.W.Henry. September 9, 2019 12:25 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1406&v=JHfWH7ZdsGI

A short documentary,   Death Or Taxes. Well worth 20 minutes of your life but don't take my word for it.
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