Jon Venables wants new life abroad funded by taxpayer

I'm all for it as long as its somewhere like Iran.

Odds on Thailand first choice followed by Cambodia.

If he were to go abroad his identity could no longer be protected?

British law would not apply in other countries.

I cannot forgive what he did myself, even if he was only 10.

Gruinard would be ideal.

There is anthrax there mightymac
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Terry Venables has had a good life funded by mug footballer watchers.

Trouble is, this is the same argument paedophiles make when they say 10-year-olds can consent to sex. 10-year-olds should be lynched for murder. What's the difference?

Dealing with child murderers is hard. It always has been. Handing them over to vigilante mobs cannot be the answer.

That has not happened has it Ramruma

Jon Venables identity is protected by law in this country.

If he goes abroad that may not be so.

I have admitted I have still not forgiven what he did, but I am not asking for him to be handed over to a lynch mob.


I assume you think Ramruma that at 10 he had no responsibility for his actions? I think he did have some.


Neither was he persuaded by an adult which is often the case with paedophiles.

we differ fair enough

New Zealand have said they will not accept him

Other ideas were Australia or Canada...the reason is cost

It may be cheaper keeping his identity secret out there than here


Although tax payers would still have to fund his relocation

i think he's on my MSM toipc

Send him to Spain,they seem happy to send their childkillers to work in our schools without telling us.

Jon Venables should have spent 8 years in prison,then been sentenced to death on hes 18th birthday..
no arguments, look into the eyes of the baby he killed and tell me otherwise..

This case literally reduces me to tears, imagine if Jamie Bulger was your son. I just know that I would seek retribution on the 2 people who murdered him.

I just did as you suggested Slippy ........ I went cold and felt a tad tearful . Not a very nice sensation and I fear my sleep may be broken

What we aren't hearing about is that Venables has all the character traits of a Psychosexual killer which is pretty much in you from childhood and will never be cured.
He would be a heavy odds on shot to commit psychosexual crimes and likely murder again and the reality for this type of person is without a medical intervention these traits will be there for life so he'll be a danger forever.

@SlippyBlue -- yes, of course you would want revenge if your child were murdered. That is only natural. But that is also why we have a criminal justice system, so we don't just descend into a cycle of vengeance.

The complicating factor here is that the killers were also children.

if you want to go down that route; they were 5 times the age of their victim, so no complication, they were streetwise urchins with a blood lust. Hardly the innocent 10 yr old  angels that some would like to put forward

But as long as there's more money to be earned by defending criminals as oppose to defending the victims, then the Lawyers and Barristers will make sure nothing changes, they are all parasites who have a lust for money and couldn't give a feck about the victims

The complicating factor here is that the killers were also children. Ramrumma

That is true Ramrumma

Unfortunately their crime of murdering a 2 year old toddler was not the crime of the average 10 year old

10 years olds steal, vandalise, are frequently absent, generally a complete nuisance...but they do not generally commit murder
Do you know any other 10 year olds in our society who commit murder?

So what we had was an adults crime but child criminals...it created some impossible problems for us
We tried to compromise, whether that was satisfactory, people make their own choice


I think we have been reasonably fair to Venables. We are obliged by law to protect his identity.

He wants us know to place him abroad? Hmmm?? I am not sure it would help him myself, he may stand out more?


I am not asking us to hand over to vigilantes, but I am happy for him to keep one eye over his shoulder for some time to come.




If he wants to go abroad


He can spebd his life lookinbg his shoulder as far as I am concerned. I think that is just.

The killers should have been destroyed ; rarely do you find evil like that , not even in the chthonian depths of organised crime .

10/10 for obscure references, dunlaying.

Organised worm-creatures. Impressive.

thought this terrible crime was carried out by to children ,,what happened to the other one ,,anyone know.

Robert Thomson....have not heard anything

He was also given a new identity protected by law.

I assume he is keeping his head down? as Venables should be.


As long as there are people alive who remember the murder of Jamie Bolger

I would doubt either of two will be forgiven...this is part of their punishment, they have to learn to live with it.

If Venables wants to go abroad...how about Syria plenty of murders and murderers there. He should not feel out of place.

Venables could join ISIS he has got the credentials

Jaywick

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How does this stuff (ie, what Venables wants) make the papers/TV?

Could be from mutterings on social media? Seems like that is the norm now.

How does this stuff (ie, what Venables wants) make the papers/TV?

It probably doesn't and is just made up. I doubt anyone involved at the level these discussions would be had at would be the kind of person who contacts the Daily Star to become their "insider". I can't imagine there is much chance any English speaking country would be granting a visa to a convicted murder and paedophile.

Last time it was Facebook that let slip where he lived and Tina Malone got into bother.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1099549/tina-malone-james-bullere-jon-vena...

Jun 25, 2019 -- 5:31PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:

How does this stuff (ie, what Venables wants) make the papers/TV?It probably doesn't and is just made up. I doubt anyone involved at the level these discussions would be had at would be the kind of person who contacts the Daily Star to become their "insider". I can't imagine there is much chance any English speaking country would be granting a visa to a convicted murder and paedophile.

This was really what I was getting at.

All these things people "call for" or "berate" about are just unproven stuff by the pigs and vultures!

Specially designed to annoy people and sell advertising.

and I posted it on here...oh well

I am always the last to know

The real horror of Venables now is that because he has identity protection children are put at risk.
Who knows where he is living and what access to kids he has.
As regards moving abroad, if true, no country would willingly take him.

I thought he was back in prison, which is where he should stay imo.

On the basis that the parole board got it wrong twice and I don't think he should ever be released.

I didn't know he was back in prison Nick.
Best place for him.

From wiki:

On 23 November 2017, it was reported that Venables had again been recalled to prison for possession of child abuse imagery. The Ministry of Justice declined to comment on the reports.[123] On 5 January 2018, Venables was charged with unspecified offences relating to indecent images of children.[124]

On 7 February 2018, Venables pleaded guilty to possession of indecent images of children for a second time. He pleaded guilty via video link to three charges of making indecent images of children and one of possessing a paedophile manual. He admitted being in possession of 392 category A, 148 category B, and 630 category C child pornography images, and was sentenced to three years and four months in prison. The parole board will decide whether to release him at the end of his sentence

This individual is clearly still a threat and should never be released.  What other option is there?

This pair of evil murdering scum should never be allowed out, and should be forced to spend the rest of their life in prison, with no chance of parole.

But as is usual the powers that be let them out to start a new life. No new start for Jamie nor Jamie's parents who have had the heart ripped out of them, and life will never be the same again.

Time to think about the victims instead.

Jun 26, 2019 -- 10:31AM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:

This individual is clearly still a threat and should never be released.

Agree probably only chemical castration and huge sedation will keep him under control but he wouldn't be fit for anywhere else in society.

The original crime was when he was technically a child ...although how someone as young as he and his mate were able to commit such an act is beyond any comprehension
However; any crimes after he became an adult should not fall under any rules allowing him protection and as such any anonymity should be lost ... tough but if people believe in the judiciary
and someone murders him because he couldn't keep quiet about himself then the murderer will be subject to the laws of the land ...

i'm sure the father would love the chance to be subjected to the laws of the land

Simply can't imagine how the Bulger family have felt over the years ... destroyed much more than one young life

the most horrific crime in my lifetime, geordie. I don't even want to surmise on the familys pain & deperation

The original crime was when he was technically a child ...although how someone as young as he and his mate were able to commit such an act is beyond any comprehension
However; any crimes after he became an adult should not fall under any rules allowing him protection and as such any anonymity should be lost ... tough but if people believe in the judiciary
and someone murders him because he couldn't keep quiet about himself then the murderer will be subject to the laws of the land ...


Geordie, I made the point some years ago that he should be named as a paedophile but under his new identity.

Anyway, for me that would be an irrelevance - as I said earlier - I believe he should now remain in prison for life.