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WINDOWS 7 - RIP
WINDOWS 7 - RIP
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Windows 10 on mine, had to buy a new laptop so had no choice
Can't be bothered to downgrade to win 7 and it'll only be another upgrade in 18 months or so anyway when they release win 11 or whatever they call it |
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Unless I'm missing something obvious I don't see any obvious reason to ditch win 7 until the hardware gives up
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I've never used a microsoft update or patch orwhatever its called. You guys just need to learn how to not rely on Msft while using their products.
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...which means i can continue using windows 7 beyond the 2020 date because i've never needed their support anyways.
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I'm still working with no problems on my Sinclair ZX80
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The reason I asked what model annie's was is that for example if it's a Dell, I believe you can enter the service code (something like JC12345) at the Dell website and download a disk image to reinstall the original operating system, which will then get the license out of the BIOS without needing a license code to be entered. If it's W7 you could then upgrade that again to W10.
I do have a machine with W10 on it and it has already went through cycles where it tries to update over a reboot then rolls back, and did this twice in a row (but has stopped now). It scares the sh1t out of me, what if that happens if you need it for something urgently, or lose data? Fixing computer issues can take so long, you can lose a day or more. (BTW people who don't back up data .. like people who wrote and entire screenplay or record an album and get their laptop stolen, what are they thinking? The HD could fail at ANY time. I've seen them fail after a week!). "I've never used a microsoft update or patch orwhatever its called" however is bad advice as well.. |
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Angoose 13 Jun 19 12:38 Joined: 18 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 2,262 | Blogger: Angoose's blog
I'm still working with no problems on my Sinclair ZX80   |
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When support for XP ended i just carried on regardless and the sky didnt fall in.The laptop died from natural causes a couple of years later(broken screen).Will do the same with W7 and i bet nothing much will happen.
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Gin is such an amateur, he forgot the BEEP
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Your browser should always be patched - what if browsers aren't being patched for your OS? Firefox etc have stopped supporting Vista now.
Hopefully Win 7 with such a huge userbase has a good few years left in it. |
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I just saw something new that MIGHT make me want to upgrade and may interest people.
It has "virtual desktops" that allow you to act like there are multiple monitors or computers on your one display. Like you could create a desktop (screen) that's for your browsing, and another that's for betting, and another with everything layed out for say poker. You can then flip back and forth between them using the task switcher or just ctrl+windows key left and right, and all the windows are as you left them. That is really useful (though I unix/linux has had that for many years). |
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Anyway,I've downloaded the window's media tool and put Windows 10 on a USB stick, will see if I can upgrade to W10 from W7 without a W10 license key, will do it tonight and post up if it worked............................
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Thanks everyone for their help
 , I will try the suggestions, but I am a not technically minded, being a woman I suppose  I looked at the stickers on the back and they refer to XP! So the windows 7 I had was put on later. It does seem a shame I don't have an operating system as it worked perfectly before and it is a very solid laptop, unlike the current versions. JC, I knew about the virtual desktops but hadn't tried them, but thanks to you reminding me I have tried it and it could come in useful with my poker. It is early days yet with it but it does seem better switching between the two. Thank you |
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XP? Wow it must be pretty ancient! I'd imagine windows 7 or 10 would run like a bit of a dog on that anyway? Maybe it had new memory and hard drive of course. You could spend hours get something all installed and the hard drive fails 2 days later. Laptops are cheap these days anyway.
If you don't care that much about it dying or the license somehow being revoked (if that ever happens) I suppose a dirt cheap ebay license is maybe a good option. |
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I would have given up on it but the fact that microsoft ruined it is very annoying. If it had just failed i would have ditched it ages ago. I have had two other computers, desktop, since then. But I do need a portable computer so I am thinking if I can't fix it then I might buy a tablet or laptop and I do need a smartphone as well. I loathe shopping so I tend to wait until everything goes wrong.
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It's always annoying if you know you had a license. I lost the license key for something years ago, had the disk but no key, grrr! You can download the correct windows 7 media from microsoft so you know that's safe if you can get a code. If it took windows 7 before it should install ok and be fairly straightforward even if you're not a geek, just like "enter language and keyboard type". For future reference (or anyone else who cares) there are safe ways to get your license keys out of windows so you can keep them safe somewhere even if you've lost the paper copy.
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JC - You can use the following free software to recover lost keys if you have a machine with the working product still on it.
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html I have used it and it works well. |
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As for the earlier discussion regarding cheap keys on e-bay, I bought one for office 2019 pro for a tenner and it works fine (licence was for a single installation on a single PC). I haven't previously bought one for Windows though but I hear that they are fine.
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I feel your pain. Did you turn off antivirus + windows defender like I said?
I'd have also advised backing up the system image if you've a drive big enough to take it so you could get back to 100% where you were. I tend to keep system small and on C and everything else on D so it's not so huge. I've got my own issues with windows, been battling them for over a day now, and that's a corrupt windows 7 that I don't want to fresh install but it's screwed so I can't properly back it up to try "risky" fix attemps. Maybe I'll try upgrading to windows 10, what could go wrong? (One reason I'm not doing that is I can't backup the image, "catch 22" he says topically). Oh BTW as I've just been looking at that there is a trick to try and fix windows 7 as an in place "fix" that I would try before a wipe reinstall? These might give general idea. Basically you need a W7 SP1 disk assuming you are SP1 (you can download that I believe) and you tell it it's an upgrade and it it basically upgrades to .. the same version but hopefully now fixed. I'm probably going to try this later way things are looking. https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/how-to-repair-a-faulty-windows-installation-without-reformatting/ https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-7.html It's annoying MS hide this sort of method as a reinstall-to-try-and-fix option USED to be an obvious pickable option on old versions of windows. |
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I've 3 laptops: A new one with W10 (sh1te) hence, in storage; another with W8.1 and a W7 (Home Premium). Presently, W8.1 has a dodgy power input socket (being fixed); upgraded W8.1 to W10, then revert back to W8.1 as W10 is awful. However, I'm using W7 as I find W10 tedious and incessantly downloading (unnecessary) software automatically.
I quite like W8.1 though. Any possibility of upgrading to W8.1 when W7 is absolute? W10 is a definite no-no for me unless I've no option. |
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Apparently you can, but the tip is to upgrade to 8 THEN 8.1.
It's pretty funny that the windows 10 upgrade rubbish is what puts so many people off (including myself), ruins so many machines, costs so many people so many time, yet Microsoft say they are doing it to help us and make us safer. They've the same attitude as a sex pest appearing at the end of someone's bed.. "I love you, this is for your own goooooooood". |
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"so many time". Even I'm corrupted and needing a reboot..
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Thanks. I think I'll upgrade my W7 to W8 then W8.1 in the next couple of months or when I get back my W8.1 from repair.
I still remembered the stern and argumentative conversation I'd with a rep of Microsoft over the phone about W10 asking why imposed on the public "that" carp (description I used) when W7 was perfectly adequate, and with W8.1 having just been introduced a couple of years earlier? I also told him for Microsoft to market (sell) W10 at a cut-price £10 for an upgrade from W8 for a specific short period was a marketing con as W10 was tedious, difficult to use and unnecessary. He was not the least pleased, but said W10 was an improvement, and safer. |
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W8 was an abomination, 8.1 at least almost usable. When the laptop I had upgraded (without asking me) to 8.1 it of course ****ed up and if I hadn't been a bit of a geek it would have been stuffed, I remember having to hack around in the recovery console to fix it using another computer to google things to try. Oh and to get the recovery console the IDIOTS had removed the ability to press an F8 startup. WHY do they make these stupid changes, it's like they WANT to annoy us. What do they gain from stopping us pressing F8 to try and stop the blue screen that's about to appear as their incompetent update has just broken the machine?
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GEESUSS, sorry I haven't answered your question yet.
I upgraded to W10 from W7 pro using the offer I was sent from Microsoft to upgrade for free. It was simply a matter of clicking a box. After I reverted back to W7 the offer was still valid, so it was just as easy to do it a second time. |
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Microsoft did it for the money!
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Your upgrade problems will be nothing to do with licensing which is checked as the very last step, it'll just be standard windows upgrade crap.
I'm very pleased i've got my W7 back to ~ full health .. No thanks of course to Microsoft trying to install updates on it that required other updates but they hadn't set the chain up so I had to hand install some. At least I could work that out as I had some control over it. I'll think long and hard about ruining it with windows 10 at some point! I wonder if the people who make tools like autopatcher can extract the USEFUL and important updates so we can install them one at a time, while forcing W10 update to not work to stop it? If not they should. |
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To me W10/8 was designed to take away control of the computer from the user and put it in the hands of MS and it's partners in crime, with W7 I can calibrate the PC to do what I want it do or allow to do, W10 seems to make it deliberately hard for you to do that and with every update the changes you make in your favour seem to be reversed.................
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Windows 7 - BEST ever - and by a million miles.
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I have to confess to buying a cheap lightweight notebook to take on holidays a few years ago but after the first 2 upgrades of W10, it told me that there was not enough memory to update it any further!!! I have tried to remove a few programmes to make space but have not used it for a year or more and now use a tablet but Android makes Excel Dropbox documents very hard to edit.
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The only reason I need Windows on this laptop is Gruss. Gruss doesn't work on any other system. The laptop itself has Windows 7 on it, and I really, really don't want to switch to Windows 10. The only browser I've ever used on the laptop is Google Chrome. In fact, if it weren't for needing Gruss, I'd simply buy a Chromebook in January.
When the Windows 7 support ends, do people think it would be safe to carry on using the laptop in this fashion: i.e., basically as a Chromebook, since I'm doing everything on the Chrome browser, except for also using it to open Gruss? |
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W10 is truly non-user friendly to most including myself who's not a geek; the endless updates are so unnecessary and memory sapping. And, my only browser is Google Chrome.
W7 is more than adequate for what I need eg here, Exchange, email and buying stuff online; no films, you-tube or iplayer either. I'm just about getting-the-hang-of W8.1 before the power-socket issue (Lenovo), but W10 is a monster I do not need or want. I know of a gamer who's still using W7, and that says a lot for W7. |
took 6 hours to come back on and it had corrupted everything, had to reboot it and then it wouldn't load the main screen on start up, had to keep loading up task manager to get into anything 
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