Sometimes sentences do run consecutively. It depends on a number of factors, including the seriousness of the crimes.
If a person receives a sentence of two years for one robbery, another individual won't get 20 years for 10 similar offences.
Sometimes sentences do run consecutively. It depends on a number of factors, including the seriousness of the crimes.If a person receives a sentence of two years for one robbery, another individual won't get 20 years for 10 similar offences.
If a person receives a sentence of two years for one robbery, another individual won't get 20 years for 10 similar offences.
I don't think that's true. Don;t serious criminals serve 2/3 with longer on licence and lifers do it all and 99yrs probation.
The argument is that it's harder to get paroled multiple times in a row.
Smaller/cheaper prison population makes sense. They're almost incentivising spree crimes.
If a person receives a sentence of two years for one robbery, another individual won't get 20 years for 10 similar offences.I don't think that's true. Don;t serious criminals serve 2/3 with longer on licence and lifers do it all and 99yrs probation.T
The person who commits 10 robberies might get five years.
I agree with your point about parole. If you only have to overcome one hearing, it could be an incentive to good behaviour.
Prison population? Maybe. The prison population is currently around 90,000; I think it was around 60,000 in 1990.
The person who commits 10 robberies might get five years.I agree with your point about parole. If you only have to overcome one hearing, it could be an incentive to good behaviour.Prison population? Maybe. The prison population is currently around 90
They seem to get much longer sentences in America, I suppose they don't do the concurrent fiddle so much over there. If you're trying to keep the prison population down by handing out lenient sentences, it can only have the opposite effect on crime.
They seem to get much longer sentences in America, I suppose they don't do the concurrent fiddle so much over there.If you're trying to keep the prison population down by handing out lenient sentences, it can only have the opposite effect on crime.
I'd guess that a 1.5x population increase over 30 years costs a lot. in any case, total population has not increased at that rate.
Inflation, health + safety, greater incidence of mental health problems.
Anyway, I'm saying that if you do 2 crimes, you should pay for both.
I'd guess that a 1.5x population increase over 30 years costs a lot. in any case, total population has not increased at that rate.Inflation, health + safety, greater incidence of mental health problems.Anyway, I'm saying that if you do 2 crimes, you
Don't worry about the cost of locking people up we can well afford it
I sometimes think the cuts which make prison more uncomfortable for prisoners, are done mainly for that reason.
Don't worry about the cost of locking people up we can well afford itI sometimes think the cuts which make prison more uncomfortable for prisoners, are done mainly for that reason.
I agree with R_B, a string of crimes should result in a string of sentences.
This rubbish about bribing criminals with concurrent sentences to make them confess to other crimes, is only there to help the police with their clear up figures.
I agree with R_B, a string of crimes should result in a string of sentences.This rubbish about bribing criminals with concurrent sentences to make them confess to other crimes, is only there to help the police with their clear up figures.
Dr Crippen • June 12, 2019 2:51 PM BST Don't worry about the cost of locking people up we can well afford it
I sometimes think the cuts which make prison more uncomfortable for prisoners, are done mainly for that reason.
Whats all the non prison related spending cuts all about then?
Dr Crippen • June 12, 2019 2:51 PM BSTDon't worry about the cost of locking people up we can well afford itI sometimes think the cuts which make prison more uncomfortable for prisoners, are done mainly for that reason. Whats all the non prison rela
They're to reverse the state dependency amongst the population created by Labour when they were in charge, and of course to get the deficit down. We're still finding plenty for stuff like HS2.
There was no urgent need for the cuts to prison services.
They're to reverse the state dependency amongst the population created by Labour when they were in charge, and of course to get the deficit down.We're still finding plenty for stuff like HS2.There was no urgent need for the cuts to prison services.
There's no point in throwing money down the drain on stuff like benefits for people who are too idle to work. It simply encourages others to follow their lead and live off the state as well.
There's no point in throwing money down the drain on stuff like benefits for people who are too idle to work.It simply encourages others to follow their lead and live off the state as well.
It would be more accurate to say 'if it's not us effected by cuts then they are ok and all others be damned' Everything has been cut, even police budgets.
It would be more accurate to say 'if it's not us effected by cuts then they are ok and all others be damned'Everything has been cut, even police budgets.
All well and good arguing for a prison reform system to retain funding when coppers shelve 60% of crimes without investigating them, even worse for fraud crime....and the origin of funding cuts for the worse off leads to a cycle of crime too anyway.
All well and good arguing for a prison reform system to retain funding when coppers shelve 60% of crimes without investigating them, even worse for fraud crime....and the origin of funding cuts for the worse off leads to a cycle of crime too anyway.
The irony is ofc that they are slow learners....if they realised white collar crime rewards more and punishes less theyd perhaps be more of that sort of criminal
The irony is ofc that they are slow learners....if they realised white collar crime rewards more and punishes less theyd perhaps be more of that sort of criminal
Im saying they are driven to it yes. Still pales into insignificance though compared to the collective theft from those who do it for greed rather than need
Im saying they are driven to it yes.Still pales into insignificance though compared to the collective theft from those who do it for greed rather than need