Two girls attacked on night bus...

Was a dreadful beating and Robbery.....cowardly attack

I rarely use London buses but when I do there often seems to be a nutter on board. Usually a harmless nutter but a nutter, nonetheless.

My advice is don't go on the upper deck and never travel on a night bus.

And my advice would be to get the fck out of London period.

.. plenty of cctv i imagine Nick but that wouldnt help at the time, wise words about sitting downstairs.

...and queueing became a thing of the past many years ago.

Arrests Made  , Strange no Pics prior to the Arrests as stated CCTV would Imagine would have been released of the Attackers rather than the Victims , Very strange .

Last time I travelled on a Double Decker down there I was downstairs , The noises from Upstairs was Liked caged animals had Escaped,School kids  , Unbelievable tbh , I realised what a fooking Sh1t house the place was , Must be thousands of Elderly
who Never leave the house

Doesnt matter who you Are Wrong bus Wrong Night you are sitting on the Top Deck and The Team get on you are Fooked ..

Say a Word your battered or stabbed

Exactly nanny, good to see 4 arrests, teenagers aged between 15 -18 yrs old. should get youth detention for that

robbery with violence. !!  Barstards.

The Birch mate , and 6 months Boot camp to follow . But of course our Luvvie friends would be up in arms

Aged 15-18.

Of course there are hand wringing morons out there that want the age of criminal responsibility raised to 16 so that a gang of 15 year olds could mug women and smash their faces and get a slap on the wrist...

Until one Night its them or one of their Family members getting the shyte Kicked out of them , or worse.

Scandalous JC , they are just larfing at the Law , they do not give a Flying , You have KHAN going on about state Visits

The Silly basterd wants to look at the State of the Gaff he is running ....

The Scooter Bizzness , Brakes applied , Prob a New system .anyone with a few quid on Public transport will be Turned over .

Appalling story of Modern London.

I was following this awful story for most of Friday, until arrests were announced on Friday evening. Despite all the hundreds of words published on this matter during Friday, accompanied by photos of the victims, there was incredibly no description of the attackers beyond one of them said to have been speaking in Spanish.  Nor was any CCTV pictures released to the public to help aid identification of the thugs. London Buses are said to have CCTV installed on them. Don't the authorities want the thugs to be caught?

Fingers crossed they have the right people in custody. Then public needs to be protected against thugs who carry out unprovoked attacks like this. I can't wait to see what "The Defence" will offer.

Team of Muggers on Bus pick on and batter and rob Weak targets , No pictures or names will be Allowed for Legal reasons

I will bet Evens  No Hispanic people involved  ,Any one want to lay ?

The very fact there has been no description of the attackers tell you everything you need to know, as usual no mention of a racist attack.

Just saw this on the news, dreadful attack by theses scumbags, forced these young ladies to kiss one another whilst they, the attackers, simulated sexual gestures before beating them up.
Very sad and then i glance down and see a thread titled -Too many Gays for me.

Spanish -- kids learn it at school these days; it has replaced German as the second foreign language taught after French. Probably not a clue to nationality: more likely one of the kids was flexing his A-level muscles after hearing the women speaking Spanish.

CCTV -- probably not released as the police recognised one or more of the attackers, or the bus driver knew them as regulars so it was just a case of waiting till they got on the bus again. Come to think of it, the fact there was a week between the assaults and arrests supports the bus regulars theory. It is not as if they'd need CCTV to jog witnesses' memories -- hard to miss a fight on a bus. No, I took it as an encouraging sign that they'd not released the video.

Hold on, it was a bus. They'd not even need the driver to know them. In London, you cannot pay fares in cash. They were too young for contactless credit or debit cards, so they'd have used Oyster cards. The bus's card reader would have told them which cards were used.

VERDICT OF THE COURT: pished-up kids on a night out during half term; regrettable; out of character; glowing reference from headmaster of posh school;  30 days for the punch-thrower; suspended sentences for the others. Which is all very well as far as it goes but its deterrent effect will be zero.

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I'll no doubt get shot down for airing my opinion here, but I just find it an uncomfortable experience to watch, such as just now "A Place In The Sun"
with yet another couple!

I might have been ok, but the sight of them holding hands, had me zapping them pronto!

Hope you feel ashamad of yourself Lady Faye!

Just a little tip. With free WiFi on buses you can watch lesbians go at it on your smart phone rather than force amateurs.

Jun 8, 2019 -- 12:08AM, Just Checking wrote:

Aged 15-18.Of course there are hand wringing morons out there that want the age of criminal responsibility raised to 16 so that a gang of 15 year olds could mug women and smash their faces and get a slap on the wrist...

Have you actually seen or heard any?

JC strawmanning again, surely not

Crisp

the more gentrified, expensive London becomes and the more people are left behind the worse it will become
not saying its right but if the mega rich think people will sit back and fall farther and farther behind without consquences their deluding themselves
why people who can afford to live in London want to pay for the privilege of them and their family not been able to walk after dark,use public transport, pubs etc is a mystery only the can answer
the mega rich are putting themselves into a position where they,ll be living in gated area,s phoning up just eat,eventually some will sit there thinking whats the point been well off in a city/country like this

It would take 10 seconds on google to reveal back up to what I said I just can't be bothered arguing with sad leftie trolls...

They are young Thugs that Need to be Dealt with accordingly .

A disgusting, cowardly attack on two people.

unless the bus was empty if it wasn't them it would have been someone else

Can't release details of the accused because of their ages.

A sickening episode.

You need to see someone to ease you of your obsessive behaviour, JC. I fear it might be taking you over to a point of personal danger (to others if not you).

Jun 7, 2019 -- 10:47PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:

...and queueing became a thing of the past many years ago.

Never have a problem with that here in Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire, people are quite polite in that regard, I let the oldens and women on first even if I'm at the front anyway

London is a frigging joke though, like you're going to get on ffs what the hurry?

Jun 7, 2019 -- 11:26PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:

Last time I travelled on a Double Decker down there I was downstairs , The noises from Upstairs was Liked caged animals had Escaped,School kids  , Unbelievable tbh , I realised what a fooking Sh1t house the place was , Must be thousands of Elderly who Never leave the house

I was once on a bus with loads school kids at the top deck, running up and down the aisle on a moving bus , and the driver literally stopped to go up and b0lluck them

I know why he did it, if one of the little ba**ards went their length no doubt he'd have got the blame

Personally I'd have sped up by 10mph, waited for the next baton to be handed over and then slammed the brakes on

That would have taught them a lesson

I have to agree. If this was a man and a women being attacked by scumbags, this would not have got this wide scale media attention. It only got so because they were gay and we are in an environment where gay culture has to be seen as nothing but positive and this gives the media the opportunity to do this. At the same time I hope the perpetrators are imprisoned. Everyone should be able to travel peacefully on public transport.

The thing is these lads will be let off and then the media will go deadly quiet on it

The women are being used for an agenda they should know that surely?

cameras on all buses now anyway  so not difficult to catch the culprits  these days  ...

As everything heads towards driverless vehicles (driverless bus trials already under way in the UK), I wonder how that will affect security, you can only imagine it'll be a lot worse. With no staff on board will they need security at nights? With no driver the bottom will hardly be better than the top currently is, in fact you'd imagine it'll be worse.

Maybe need to add little tazer firing turrets to the CCTV cameras

Robot bouncers.

Robobouncer!
"You have 10 seconds to comply".
*reply is stream of expletives, ending in "what did you aks me"?*
"You used the non-word "aks", you have 0 seconds to comply."
*brrrrrrrrrrr*
I'm liking it. Made by "Chav-be-gone Industries".

It's a fare cop

nice to see they caught the scum sharpish for a change, its no coincidence tho.. these lbgt and so called racist attacks get much higher attention than any others.. so black up or get your wig on when you go out boys

We may adopt 'social credits' like in China. CCTV can monitor behaviour at all times:

China's social credit system expands that idea to all aspects of life, judging citizens' behaviour and trustworthiness. Caught jaywalking, don't pay a court bill, play your music too loud on the train — you could lose certain rights, such as booking a flight or train ticket.

One city, Rongcheng, gives all residents 1,000 points to start. Authorities make deductions for bad behaviour like traffic violations, and add points for good behaviour such as donating to charity.

Liu Hu is a journalist in China, writing about censorship and government corruption. Because of his work, Liu has been arrested and fined — and blacklisted. Liu found he was named on a List of Dishonest Persons Subject to Enforcement by the Supreme People's Court as "not qualified" to buy a plane ticket, and banned from travelling some train lines, buying property, or taking out a loan.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-social-credit-system-explained

Big daddy controls your breathing

Farting on a bus will be deemed a punishable offence quite literally then?

They will bombard us with more fizzy drink ads, just to give us gas so we do the said fart on that said bus

They want us to self police though

If they achieve it they wont need to do anything

There you go SF.
Raising the age of criminal responsibility been a regular topic in Scotland.
Was raised from 8 to 12 but some want to go further. Not sure if its still 8 elsewhere in the UK.

https://www.tes.com/news/age-criminal-responsibility-should-be-16

Simple way to solve such problems. Jail the parents.

Fair to single out Londoners for being the last onlookers to intervene.
Imagine all the other passengers on top pretending that it wasn't happening. Typical London behaviour.

Great idea Mac. A lot of parents just put their kids out and forget about them til night.
Literally not giving a f*ck as to what they are getting up to.
Might be young but still capable of violence with some carrying knives.

Yes Mac been saying this for years but it won't happen
As most probably will only have one parent around and the
other 5 kids will be parentless.

No such thing as parentless, when you have children, you have responsiblity, i agree that the parents should be charged if the scumkids are underage. On the birth certificate are the parent/parents names.

Crime will spiral out of control with the lack of police and there lack of powers, until the public start taking the law into there own hands, which is starting to happen. If i caught somebody robbing my house, i would have no hesitation in hitting them with anything to knock them unconcious, then i'd drive them to a location in the middle of nowhere and leave them there.
why call the police,? if they did bother to turn up, they'd prob get a suspended and do it again.

But after the scumbag makes his way home he and his mates will target you for revenge. Possibly even torch your house at 3 am.

A householder only has 2 options when dealing with a burglar. Either make him a cup of tea, show him where the good stuff is and hope he doesn't make too much mess...............or kill him. There is no VIABLE middle ground any more.

The report is that this happened at 2:30am, so there's something to be said for asking "why were their parents letting their 15-16 yr old kids out apparently with a gang at that time of night? Had they told them they were at a sleep over playing minecraft?

I did read somewhere, that busses have cameras upstairs but I guess this will only be newer ones, and in certain areas.

Just a quick search....

"Do buses have CCTV?
Yes, we have been using CCTV since 1998, and most of our buses are now fitted with CCTV cameras which capture images of both the road ahead and behind the bus, and the interior of the bus – including upstairs for double deck buses".

Doesn't matter whether they are on cctv or not, the thugs don't care,
if the thugs were bang unlucky and the police bothered to turn up and nick them, what would happen?.Not much, a slap on the wrist by the local magistrate and on there merry way

Any names or pics yet from the CCTV been shown ?

dambuster if you hit them with the nearest heavy object and called the police in all likleyhood you would be charged with assault at least.

i wouldn't call the police

puer, oh puer, oh puer!

First things first. Don't expect our brave boys in blue to be your friend. As Foyle said you are more likely the one to be arrested, charged and brought to book!

There is a protocol involved and now I am afeared to say what it is in case it is used in evidence against me.

A week after their shameless use of the D-Day commemoration to attack Brexit, the so and so's at Channel 4 news are using this disgusting attack to attack of all people - Boris Johnson. But that's standard C4 news, the people who who danced on the deaths at Grenfell to attack the Tories, a disgusting and totally shamelessly biased broadcaster.

A week after their shameless use of the D-Day commemoration to attack Brexit, the so and so's at Channel 4 news are using this disgusting attack to attack of all people - Boris Johnson. But that's standard C4 news, the people who who danced on the deaths at Grenfell to attack the Tories, a disgusting and totally shamelessly biased broadcaster.

got some bad news for you if hijacking vets for a political message is an issue

All gone quiet,no cctv,no description of attackers.Never happened?

Rapists now targeting Women on night Buses

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/teen-among-five-men-held-over-sex-attacks-on-women-taking-night-bus-home-a4192961.html

All part of the extended hours TFL experience ..

With CCTV on all Buses no doubt a full gallery of the Rapists will made available to help with their capture .

the blood on the Jennifer Connolly lookalike, does not look real

Jul 21, 2019 -- 6:20PM, leazes67 wrote:

All gone quiet,no cctv,no description of attackers.Never happened?

They made arrests the next day didn't they

SG reported Candeias in Turkey finalising his move away from Rangers.
Sad to see him go, was one of my favourite players.

Oops wrong thread, sorry.

night buses always been dangerous... back in late 70,s and 80,s... n85 ran from charing x to catford.. was always kickin off different mobs of soul boys.. punks .. skins.. mods  and the black steaming gangs who usually got on near new x .. Lewisham.. you did well to get home in one piece.. I only dun it cos my bird lived out past catford... wouldn't go near 1 now.

Birds or busses?

My apology..4 boys charged.

Those arrestedbeing investigated for other Crimes , perhaps this is the Rapist mob that have been carrying out the Night Bus attacks .