Again, Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Lack of media coverage(absence of evidence) is the evidence of the absence of ambulances on that route.

Unless you have a video covering that route.

And before you accuse me of anything, I am neither denying this was a hoax nor claiming it was one. It could well have been a hoax. But the evidence presented is not enough. I am only debating the absence of that evidence.

And I am being nice to you. The arguments you are making to come at the conclusions you are coming to are laughable. That is not how proofs work. You have to cover all angles.

Maybe there were actor ambulance men who were allowed on site.

Argument from Ignornace

Read about it. That's what you are doing.

I really appreciate you willing to answer questions though. I don't know if it was a hoax or not but if I have to accept a narrative other than the mainstream one I need evidence. And I don't see that. Therefore I go with the herd.

I really can't spend more time on this. Already wasted the whole day. But I really appreciate your responses.

the woman in red got put in an ambulance so you can't have her as one of your choices.

Drivers being the actors...you should have been able to figure that out.

You put my writing to so much scrutiny. You could do the same for the video, but you don't.

Sorry but you're not right in the head. I'll stop being nice. You're definitely right up there with terry and John because you don't know how reasoning works.

If it helps put an end to the conversation, yes the boston bombing was a hoax. I am convinced now.

I bagsy the woman in red though.

I repeat, I don't have to prove where 250 sick people went.

You have to prove they didn't go in an ambulance, because that is the claim you are making, without any evidence to back that up.

My UFO is here and i've got to leave for Saturn.

DOn't believe me? Prove there isn't a UFO parked right outside my house. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Don't get in the same rut as me with him,if you see black and they its white,ive called them all the a$$holes under the sun,ive called Betfair cowards,ive begged to get a permanent ban and yet im still here,something aint right.

Charlie 11 Jun 19 16:57 Joined: 01 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 26,602 | Blogger: Charlie's blog
I'll give a few of the quotes from the links I gave before:

As a junior officer who was lucky enough to be the base duty officer just after a military crash about 20 years ago, I also wore the hat of "search and rescue officer" for 24 hours, including handling images of the wreckage that were relayed back to base. I saw the photos of the crash wreckage, which unfortunately killed two guys I knew.

Nobody who didn't know better would believe that that hole in the ground contained a whole aircraft and two people. But it did.

One of the really freaky parts was seeing the fabric flying suits virtually intact, with no body in them. I was told that the body virtually "sieves through" the fabric at such high impact; and it seems the only explanation for what I saw. The investigators were even able to determine, for some of the duplicated instrument fragments, which were left-hand and which were right-hand instruments by the DNA coating, and in some instances embedded in, the fragments. :/

The largest part they found of either body was a section of jaw bone containing two teeth. There were some "pink smears" in places, but that was the only solid part.

From this black hole in the ground that appeared to contain nothing other than a trashcan full of parts, they eventually recreated virtually the whole aircraft in a hangar, as part of the accident investigation. A lot of the debris wasn't visible to me in those early photos; there were thousands of small parts of metal buried in the soil due to the force of the impact, which were only found after the whole soil was stripped and sieved.

https://www.quora.com/What-do-debris-of-aircraft-accidents-typically-look-like

A similar thing happened at Shanskville and to Flight 1771.

A bit more:

.... People expect to see at least this much debris, but with a high angle of impact,  and/or high speed, you simply don't see anything that looks like an aircraft; you see charred bits of metal - broken up into tiny pieces - and possibly some larger parts from the engine and landing gear. You probably wouldn't even be grossed out by human remains unless you went picking through carefully, because there wouldn't be anything resembling a body, either.

It does seem difficult to believe, but having witnessed it "almost first hand", and having sat in on numerous accident investigation seminars, I assure you that an aircraft accident simply doesn't look like what most people expect.


Ok Charlie, In fairness to your belief i have followed up your quoted resources.

1/ I dont think we can use the quoted military 2 pilot plane as an example as it is not backed up with any evidence so although he says they managed to piece together the plane after it had disintegrated or disappeared we only have his word for it however it is not a valid simile.

2/ Lets move on to PACIFIC SOUTH WEST FLIGHT 1717 which crashed in 1987.

The crash is not in dispute as It happened, Here is a shutterstock photo of the crash site

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB825GB825&tbm=isch&q=(Pacific+Southwest+Airlines+Flight+1771)&chips=q:pacific+southwest+airlines+flight+1771,g_1:wreckage&usg=AI4_-kQxIkeaNUJGCtBmPyiTDi4dEuy7QA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCj56cuOPiAhULVhoKHezNCeMQ4lYIKigA&biw=1920&bih=842&dpr=1#imgrc=afOB8fcphTqbEM:


We also have videos showing much of the same from same site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkesW3FhvUw

Now we move onto Shanksville ( used as your simile for comparison )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja3Pzhy-vlQ

As i fully expected............. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER

Now be a good boy , go away , find a dark corner and have a lie down.

Just admit , firstly to yourself and then to everyone else that you have been deceived.

Stop giving it the large one on here about official narratives. In the main for many of the events discussed they are complete b****x.

You and others in your little gang need to wake up and face reality b4 it becomes too late !!!!

Now stop wasting my time and get a grip man.

You provide evidence and i will look at it. I keep an open mind about everything these days and i am never afraid to admit when i get something wrong. Unlike many others !!!!!!

“People trust their eyes above all else - but most people see what they wish to see, or what they believe they should see; not what is really there”

Dear John.W.Henry,

personal cell phones and air phones are not the same thing.

Kind regards and yours truly
edy

Thank you Charles Manson

That's why collapsing towers don't follow the laws of physics. It's why planes don't follow them. It's why phone calls are possible when they shouldn't be physically possible. Why people suddenly vanish after having been put into a massive tent.

The computers that run the simulation messed up.

Why do you e.g think things keep vanishing in the Bermuda triangle? Simple storms again and again? And nobody keeps foreseeing those storms? Don't make me laugh.

If it was really the deep state or the zionists behind all these things, people like Icke and Peekay would've been erased a long time ago instead of being allowed to keep going for decades in Icke's case. Think logically.

JWh
So you dismiss the military expert because it doesn't suit your agenda yet you're quite prepared to believe loonies because it does.

Perhaps you'll believe https://www.gq.com/story/man-who-cleans-up-plane-crashes.

Shutterstock image. Who says this is the crash site? The image is entitled Officials search through wreckage Southwest Airlines. Debris was found miles away as it was at Shanksville. If you look at 4:22 on your first video and 1:06 on your second you can see the similarities. The two are entirely consistent.

Look at the crash site on Flight 1771 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM2t9kb5Fo around 4:10 to 4:12 and compare with Flight 93 and you will also see they are consistent.

What you don't see in either of them are large pieces of fuselage, wings, bodies, etc which is what you alluded to yesterday when you said I just looked at every other plane crash on land in history apart from on 911. Do you understand the difference between a high-impact crash and those that occur at relatively slow speeds during take off and landing?

You  never did answer the question of what you would expect to find. Why is that are you scared to? Remember on the original 911 thread when you kept repeating in capitals: where is the wreckage, where are bodies, etc. You were frightened to give your opinion. So I'll repeat the question again: What would you expect to find at the crash site?

You really are superficial and there is no substance to the points you make.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/arts-and-books/the-politics-of-unhappiness-the-surprising-link-between-conspiracy-theories-and-mental-health
The politics of unhappiness? The surprising link between conspiracy theories and mental health

We know conspiracy theorists. They’re silly. They wear tinfoil hats in movies to protect them against alien death rays. But “truth seekers”? That’s a hell of a rebrand.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/talking-apes/201801/why-do-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories
Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?

Regardless of the outcome of these future studies, the real question for us now is how to deal with the Uncle Joe in our life. You may offer counterevidence in an attempt convince him to give up his conspiracy theories, but you’re unlikely to succeed. This is because you’re arguing facts, while Uncle Joe is defending his sense of security and his positive feelings about himself. And for all of us, self-image trumps facts every time.

Seek help MMH, tm and JWH. It may not be too late for you.

Mobile phones couldn't work on flying planes back in 2001--end of chat.

They just wont mention airphones because they are both lying about it.

its like denying the existence of internet today. A tech's been there for 20 years and these two claim it doesn't exist.

That's why they are both trying to cover it up with mobile phones.