Boxing upset

mexican looked as fit as me, an I've never been to a gym in my life

Joshua defended the physique of Ruiz Jr. in the build up to the fight, claiming that body shape is irrelevant, it's what's inside the body that matters.
Well, he just proved his own theory, losing his world titles to a man who wanted it more than Joshua.

Gravy train derailed. Fat Mexican first on the scene.

Bl00dy Help , I didn't think that was possible .

HEll

Joshua is another Amir Khan a so so fighter  built up by the bbc to be something special for political reasons

he's hardly thrown a dig in last couple of 'fights' so an upset was on the cards sooner or later. But Ruiz was not on my mind to be the one

Suspicious result but fair play to Ruiz - just pummelled AJ to defeat - not something we see in heavyweight boxing much these days. And hope for flabby types everywhere

Overrated ffs

He was in the same league as Muhammad Ali according to the BBC a couple of years ago

That heavyweight division is bloody awful lets be honest, Wilder is now probably the best of bad bunch, fury can beat him on his night

If we're being honest the BBC have been talking Joshua down recently, he's simply not been getting the clicks has he, so its time to move on to sell the next big overrated athlete/sportsman

And lets think about this

Joshua and Hearn have made 100m each out of this run

Let that sink in

There's no way Hearn can demand a 70-30 split now Vs Wilder, Wilder now holds all the cards

If he gets in with Wilder and fights like he did lastnight lackluster and flat footed he could get seriously hurt, he needs to prove he is serious and show it in a few comeback fights

The genie has well and truly been let out of Joshua's bottle and he'll require to take care of business in a rematch with Ruiz before any talk of a fight with Wilder can recommence.

Expect a few twists and turns along the way, and don't hold your breath waiting for Joshua v Wilder.

there maybe another payday for AJ? It won't be long before we have mixed boxing, so how about AJ v another finito championi - Serena 'i have bigger muscles than you' Williams. I'd pay to see that

Another BBC hype project gone bad, AJ was never that good to begin with, just in an era of crap boxers.

crap heavyweight boxers tbf

then again, when virtually every other sport is improving in leaps & bounds; boxing has gone backwards

mexican looked as fit as me, an I've never been to a gym in my life  xmoneyx

I won't pick a fight with you xmoneyx

I gather some people even stayed up to watch and lump on the 1.04 (and maybe even shorter) odds.

Well done if you layed it.

Radio5 Live is replaying their coverage of the fight in the next few minutes if anyone wants to listen to it.

I was listening live and after the debacle that was the Katie Walsh decision over the Belgian girl I was almost expecting another upset.

Didn't bet on it. No aftertiming. Just wasn't that surprised.

Wilder: I'll knock Joshua out
Fury: I'll out box him all night
Ruiz: hold my greggs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikGPLO-fpgY

Joshua did win an Olympic Gold

and did not have a bad record , good fight defeating Klitschko for World Title.

I find this result quite amazing

All the heavyweights now are super heavies, compared to what we had in the past.


I would like Tyson Fury to have another chance...yet another super heavy

the lad was fat as f*ck but had some skills. AJ is an amazing specimen, looks like a sculpture but a fight is a fight.
Best fighter wins, even the tubby one.

Aj showed a lot of class at post match interview...bad night at the office...teletubby he was not !

I wish I'd listened to the Irish guy, fighter can't remember his name,  who said he spoke to AJ and
noticed a stye in his eye. He was on radio 5 a couple of days pre fight & said he looks run down and
has a cold. He said that could tip the balance, should have listened.

On the rare occasion he came forward with some intent he had the measure of Ruiz but they only lasted a couple seconds and were few and far between. He kept try to use a long often slow looping jab to set Ruiz up for a big right that he never threw.

tictacman1
Aj showed a lot of class at post match interview...bad night at the office...teletubby he was not


Watched this, AJ smiling and waving, Clearly still concussed... imho.

The best part of this whole fiasco with the heavyweights not fighting each other is seeing Hearn being properly outmanoeuvred by the Americans. Clearly overvalued Joshua's worth in the early Wilder negotiations asking for silly amounts as usual.

He's been taking the pi$$ the last few years with some of these bill they charge £20 for people to watch it really does put me off watching Boxing. the cards are usually awful. I do feel a little sorry for Joshua as he does seem a genuine guy.

What would he be looking at getting now? Wilders a massive name in America now he wasn't that big before the Ortiz/Fury fights. He was holding all the aces in the negotiations even before last night..


Poor Eddie.

Unreal Performance Threw 1 punch in the 1st round and missed

Ruiz only had one defeat going into the fight against Joshua

Against Parker who Joshua had beaten.

But very much a different type of fighter to Parker, I assume Parker out boxed Ruiz, but could not do that

to Joshua who dominated the fight behind a strong left hand from centre of ring.


Ruiz did not bother with too much boxing against Joshua he just banged away, all too much for Joshua.

Even though Joshua was British I like to see an occasional upset, keeps boxing interesting.

I doubt those that backed Joshua at 1:04 enjoyed the experience as much.

Ruiz looked a very good fighter considering his appearance, Technical speed that went against his physique. I would bet on him to beat AJ again.

There are no certainties in gambling. Been a lot more shorter prices than 1/25 beaten.

I think Joshua was psychologically defeated before he even entered the boxing ring, having seen Moneytree putting him up as FREE money on the other thread on football forum.

moneytree could down a jumbo jet if he backed it to get to its destination at 1/one million

mighty mac


You was right ibrahima...just watched the fight on utube

He had very good hand speed Ruiz.

He was clearly the smaller man but when he got close to Joshua he was out speeding him with his punches

and clearly they were not just speed.


He was like a little jack in the box, I don't think Joshua knew how to deal with him.

Well done Ruiz

Fury is the best boxer, Wilder has the power to stop anyone. AJ is a hell of a unit but soft.

Well I would not call AJ soft, not wishing to wake up in intensive care

..but can he take a punch, he was down a little too often in that fight, would be my question????

He did keep getting up...the referee stopped it...but why was he down so often?

he was concussed, but you are correct soft is too harsh.
he is a nicer guy than the other two & credit to him for that.
Wilder & Fury will **** you up if you p1ss them off. AJ would warn you.

Ruiz's hooks kept hitting AJ's ears full-on.

Sure there was some sort of dysequilibrium, where you veer around thinking you're off-balance

Ruiz is a lot better than people gave him credit for and he was unlucky against Parker, losing by a decision.

Ruiz is a Big Fat Bum, Lets keep it real!

He has a good chin and that's all!

A world class fighter isnt gonna be troubled by this bum unless he gets super careless.

Aj was concussed when put down in the 3rd. from that he never properly recovered.

He was put down because he was careless in going for the early finish.. Anybody want to price the rematch up?? This really is gonna be a No contest.

1.2 would be a huge price for AJ.. imo.

AJ got careless?

Even if that was true that just shows he's easily got at upstairs, for weeks he's been hearing how he isn't as explosive as Wilder, so what does he do? goes full blooded against an opponent who isn't there to go full blooded on, he's still in the game and its to dangerous at that point to go in for the kill ffs

Wilder and Fury would have him beat before the bell in my opinion, they'd get in his head and then just dismantle the stiff in the ring

The fact is AJs peaked, there's no improvements coming and what you've seen in the past 4 fights is the finished article

And his style wasn't that good to begin with, and now its been found out to boot

The other 2 plus him are much of a muchness... couldnt pick a favourite but might just edge fury (never dreamed i'd say that before he fought Wilder)

Wilder just seems too small.. imo.



AJ got careless?

Straight after he knocked Ruis on his arse, he stormed in trying to finish him off quick... (careless)

Strange that the game-plan wasn't, take it the full distance.

Ruiz's physique would have meant he would have been gasping and shattered from Rnd 8 onwards.
Play totally safe for first 6 rounds and pick him off in the latter rounds

there many guys out there ,,that will hit him harder than this guy did,,he new he would have got hammered fighting wilder or fury,,  went for what he thought was the easy route and it backfired,

His whole style has been found out now though, emitdeb

And he hasn't got the skill, application and patience to keep it tight and pick them off late on, he's slow and ponderous in the ring, any quick fighter will eat him alive if he tried that. His defensive skills are awful lately, they weren't really needed earlier in his career because he was knocking out bums in 6 to 10 round fights, but his past 3 fights have shown his weaknesses big time. Ruiz said before the fight he doesn't like going backwards, if a fighter like Ruiz can expose his weakness like that then think what wilder and fury could do?

Sadly his muscle frame that got him to the top (albeit some bums to pad his record) will now be his downfall

if a fighter like Ruiz can expose his weakness like that then think what wilder and fury could do?

Bare in mind he'd be doing a lot of back peddling against Wilder?

a flat track bully who doesn't like getting hit. Holyfield would have rearranged his profile. Bonecrusher would have knocked him out in under a minute & Tyson would have eaten him whole. Allah knows what Ali would have done to him

Bap

Fury the best at not getting hit in this era still got hit big V Wilder, he got up but god knows how

Wilder will be able to pick his time against Joshua judging his past few fights, Wilder was mostly hitting air Vs Fury because of Fury's speed and in ring craft, but Joshua has zero of that

I've seen older people with better footwork than Joshua, he's always planted and begging to be countered

Andy Ruiz Jr has put forward Mexico as his desired location for a rematch with Anthony Joshua.

The Mexican-American produced a shocking upset at Madison Square Garden in New York, ending the British heavyweight star's title reign with a seventh-round stoppage to claim the WBA 'Super', WBO and IBF belts.

In the aftermath of Ruiz Jr's stunning victory, Joshua and promoter Eddie Hearn stated their intention to host an immediate rematch in the UK, but the newly crowned champion admits he would love to take a return fight back to his home country.

"I'd love to do the rematch but first I've got to talk to my team, we'll go from there and figure things out," 'The Destroyer' said.

"I'd love to be in Mexico, there's never been a heavyweight champion in Mexico so I'd love to have a rematch there.

& rightly so. Good luck to him; & keep eating the tortillas Andy

Johnny_Mustang
03 Jun 19 13:03
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Ruiz is a lot better than people gave him credit for and he was unlucky against Parker, losing by a decision.

wish I had known that before the match 25/1 oh well...good spot


Actually I think AJ knocked down Ruiz down first

but that must have annoyed Ruiz, he immediately got up and knocked AJ down twice....very good hand speed from Ruiz

AJ just kept going down....concussion?....looked bewildered as well..  did he train for Ruiz???

Tommy Toes    02 Jun 19 13:06 

I was listening live and after the debacle that was the Katie Walsh decision over the Belgian girl I was almost expecting another upset.

Just to correct myself: *Katie Taylor.

I have a lot of trouble with names - as Gladys Cooper can testify to!

He should have to go to Mexico for the rematch, Ortiz is the champion

Joshua had it all his own way before, dragging Charles Martin here and paying him peanuts despite him being the champion ffs

Joseph Parker never had a sniff, had to come here and take about 25% ?

Joshua only went to America to "crack it" and earn more money, obviously Ruiz benefited from it being in the states but it was Eddies decision to go there no one elses

Mexico or no rematch would be my offer

I have never seen a boxer who looked like ruis But fair play he did the business.

Annie, "Sage of Quay" Mark Williams-The Beatles,Paul McCartney and the Grand Illusion. Kindly watch and make your mind up.

Thanks terry, I will have a look

With a glass of wine and an open mind

You know me sooo well, terry