Student debts

150k my girl

You can`t be serious Capt, surely?

I've repaid £1 per week sometimes and at most about £15-18 a week on a debt of about 12 bags I think. It's never going to be repaid, basically

might be wrong had a few ciders sure she saisd 6 figs

6 years

Blair's fault for sending far too many kids to University.  Fecking ridiculous and a mess is waiting

It is a disgrace that student loans are charged a higher rate of interest than is charged for late payment of income tax.

1500k less to paid over a further 10 years, 40 in total. WTF? Minimum yearly salary before repayments falls to 23k also if implemented.

Most youngsters today who go to University thses days are fooked by huge house prices and massive student debt unless their parents die young and they inherit their parents house, that they've made loads of money on

Should be capped, even now, at about 60 large for 4 years - 4 x £9k max fees and 4 x £6k living expenses. Obviously less if you only take 3 years.

Less for outside London and going to **** uni's too.

You are better off training as an electrician or plumber than spending £50k on a pointless degree on Sociology or Marketing from a poor University

I wish I was told that at 18, CLYDEBANK29

Richie, do the QT thread.

There shouldn't be any tuition fees. Period.

I Don't watch Question Time mush, I don't like it - too much clapping and people talking over each other.

Aye, it's sh1te since they dropped the comedians.

I once appeared on the Welsh language version of it when I was in school.

Surely the state paying your fees for 3 years + living costs so you can study "gender studies and being offended" then work in a call centre / cafe, it's a human right?

Lembit Opik was on it

Many countries don't let their universities charge tuition fees. They manage it somehow.

or I should say a handful of European countries. There aren't many I think.

It's easy not to charge tuition fees.  Cut University places in half.  But Blair had this dumb idea and following governments have failed to address the initial stupidity, just left the problem for another day

I say it's easy but it's not easy, because tens of thousands of jobs now rely on students who shouldn't go to University paying to go.  So the can gets kicked down the road

Other countries are far better at having different levels and paths of education and put more credit in e.g. vocational courses in useful areas, Britain has decided everyone (well ok at least 50% was I think the target) should have a degree, no matter how useless and mickey mouse and no matter if industry needed anyone in that pointless subject, which is incredibly expensive.

I'm not sure it's fair a brick layer and a shop assistant should be paying taxes towards 1000s of people gettin degrees in "peace studies" and "postfeminist gender struggle pisstaking".

Jo Swinson on QT with her santimonious dishonest "Farage is a racist" attacks reminds me why I won't be voting LD again any time soon. Horrible woman.

Woops typo! I c a mistake.

It's not fair on the students being encouraged to do the course and ending up with no better job prospects and a huge debt.

It is outrageous that they are paying exhorbitant interest rates, I think everyone can agree on that. FS did they outsource the collection to Wonga?

It should be base interest rate + admin + costs and not gouging..

It's stuff like that from Jo Swinson that makes it difficult for me to vote Lib Dem.  Sh1te like that should come from The Green Party, not a mainstream party abd I really don't like Farage.

Although having just typed that and thinking for 10 seconds .. I suppose they have to factor in a lot of people WON'T pay them off, so the people paying it off are covering those who don't (I'd assume). so once again it's probably the people who do useful degrees and end up getting good jobs covering the people who did total bullsh1t for 3 or 4 years...

Swinson, who just had a go at Farage and his poster, is exactly the sort of bleeing heart "liberal" that would flat ignore all the statistics about the huge amount of people who came in the migrant crisis who weren't refugees but plain economic migrants, often lying about where they were from, and scream in your face that talking about it is "racist". Exactly why I could never vote for a party with her leading either. People like her don't do facts.

FFS We need a reasonable centrist party, not a SJW party, which is what the LDs have become.

Lib Dem's leading the polls, first time since Cleggmania.

FWIW, Liberals are centrists.

If you are capable and going to earn a uni degree then earn lots of money i dont see a problem with the system.

The problem is they let people in who are not good enough for university.

Poor phecker on 5live this morning has just graduated with 46k student debt !! Should never be allowed imo.

I want someone from a mainstream party to stand up and say it's racist for a Muslim parent to deny their daughter marrying a non Muslim.  It's the most baltant form of racism there is but it's as if it never exists.

Tha laughable oxymoron is that if you were to point it out you would be labelled a racist yourself.

Islam ain't a race mush

The libs IMHO used to be centrists, certainly aren't now.

JC I was going to post the exact same thing as you on Jo Swinson.
I at one time voted LD religiously before becoming a tactical voter.
Vince Cables bigoted speech put me off them but if Swinson gets the leadership I'll never vote for them again.
An odious virtue signalling individual who should be nowhere near politics.
Willie Rennie head and shoulders above her in every respect.

I switched QT off after her absolutely stupid comments about Nigel Farage.

Racism covers religion too Richie

I don't think so but you might be right, a semantic argument I suppose. Shame to see yet another thread festooned with the usual right wing fanatics

Swinson is the sort that would call Brexit voters stupid racists, then blame them for creating anger and division in society

"Racism covers religion too Richie "
No it doesn't or shouldn't, that's something the left / PC types use to muddy things.

And there we go "right wing fanatics" ... ffs. Nobody can say anything sensible now without being called a fascist, it's pathetic.

I suppose you consider anyone with a different view to you as a fanatic Richie, is that right?

Getting back to QT I used to like/rate Rory Stewart but of recent he's been nowt but a rat.

Call it religious hatred then.  Whether it is or isn't racism to you it is bundled together as one in the media.  Religious hatred is much worse because in history it leads to genocides such as the Jewish Holocast and the massacre of Christians in Armenia and East Timor by Islamists.  And these genocides are rooted in doctrines that forbid daughters from marrying outside the religion

I'd love to know richie's definition of 'far right'
I reckon it's as simple as "Anyone who holds an opinion that differs from my own"

"Islamophobia is a form of racism – like antisemitism it’s time it got its own definition"

Headline from The Independent

Richie has done a runner, maybe just counting his bags.

The Independent. Poor man's Guardian-Lite that was so rubbish it went pretty much bust and is now online only, "nuff said"!

Posting on cricket forum ffs

CLYDEBANK29, I'm not going to argue over that.

The rest of you (akabula, Reynard, Just Checking, et. al.) are dyed-in-the-wool right wing extremists. Nothing more, nothing less.

12 bags Richie? You a gangsta?

Last time I called someone on here a troll threw a fit, but we can see precisely what little richie is....

diamond geezer innit.

12 bags
You've been watching too many repeats of the Sopranos.

Do they use rhyming slang on The Sopranos? I've never seen it.

Definition of 'extremist' required

My best guess, Reynard, is that an extremist might espouse his fascist vitriol on a betting forum on a daily basis.

What I mean by that is that you, and others, are committed to the cause in a way that others are not.

Don 't you just love it when a convicted child abuser takes the moral high ground

Clearly Richies definition of 'facist' differs considerably from the one in the Oxford Dictionary

I'm disappointed. I wanted it in cockney rhyming slang.

I'm defining the individual, not the word, Reynard.

Can you expand on your 00:45 post please?

What passes as 'fascist vitriol' in your book Richie?
One example from any thread today would suffice

I was gonna ask what MTTs do you play but now you're having a pop

You're defining me as a "far right extremist" . I am not 'far right' nor am I 'extremist' .
People in glass houses etc. etc. etc.

Wasn't having a pop until you labelled me and a few others as right wing extremists followed up by fascists.
Surely you're not surprised that triggered a response?

I suggest you retract your highly inflammatory 00:26 post , immediately !

You could say I was a left wing extremist and I wouldn't cry.

I'm not crying. My responses have been civil and measured.
Still waiting on an example though.

It's always about Corbyn, BBC, Islam with you lot.

Like all day, every day. That's extreme imo.

I'd much rather talk poker or betting cos maybe we could help each other.

Richie_Burnett • May 31, 2019 1:03 AM BST
You could say I was a left wing extremist and I wouldn't cry.

People have opinions , often those opinions differ , but that does not make a differing opinion 'extreme' . It just makes it different .
There are whole swathes of middle ground and 99% of opinions fall somewhere therein .

So calling out Corbyn for his anti UK stance amongst other things, the BBC for its bias and Islam for its preaching of hatred makes us right wing extremists.
Could name a few Labour MPs who've done the same without attracting that tag.

The time and effort is the aggravating factor, Reynard.

There's a few posters that are all over the BBC/Islam/Corbyn threads like a cheap suit.

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to an opinion, but rather you blindly follow a cause/ideology and make assumptions that are not grounded in reality.

A good, recent example would be lux misusing statistics to further his right wing agenda a few days ago.

In order to facilitate a truce in this here war I retract my gangster slur.

Easier to throw out the old 'nazi' 'facist' 'far right' label rather than debate a topic which you have little or no knowledge of .

If Labour got rid of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott from their front benched I could see myself voting for them.

If my aunt had balls she'd be a juggler

I've seen you post about tournament poker quite a lot, akabula.

I'm definitely interested in what stakes/games you play.