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Who think's he racist? I don't. I just think he's full of populist bluster and BS and less trustworthy than a used car salesman.
People don’t think, that is the problem,social media controls (no matter which side of the argument you sit ) that little bubble people sit within social media is the be and end all, ... zombies
These racist accusations don't really exist. They are just a PR gimmick used to suggest that he's an antidote for all the PC nonsense that has eneveloped social media and the BBC and left mainstream politicians running for their apologist phrase books.
Change UK woman on C4 news just linked Brexit and Farage (in so many words, then didn't deny that's what she meant when questioned) to the rise of Hitler.
That morbidly obese fool who threw the milkshake claimed Farage was racist and how can someone on C4 news associate Farage with Hitler without any challenge?
Some think that the 17.4m who voted leave are racist. Its a brexit thing.
he has ran this campaign without mentioning immigration, some don't even understand that
Is he racist because he prefers working in the 99% white European Parliament rather than our culturally diverse British one?
Because he drives division between cultures and often fails to criticise the blatant racism of those surrounding him.
May 22, 2019 -- 10:25PM, n88uk wrote:
Because he drives division between cultures and often fails to criticise the blatant racism of those surrounding him.
You obviously mean the racism against white people.
Because he drives division between cultures
Any specific examples of that?
Any specific examples of that?
His comments a few weeks ago about Oldham and Manchester having streets with on one side everyone black and the other white, with no integration.
I don`t think he is a racist, just a very clever opportunist.
He just plays up to what people with what they want to hear with no idea of how to bring it all together. In fact Brexit actually happening in his way would likely make him disappear altogether, as he wants to throw darts from outside, not actually have any responsibility.
No that's just what racists what to hide behind to normalise their views.
Farage was labelled a racist when he spoke of controlling our borders.
Yet ask any MP if they want completely open borders with no restrictions at all and the vast majority if not all will say no.
Realist would be more apt.
Yet ask any MP if they want completely open borders with no restrictions at all and the vast majority if not all will say no.
Realist would be more apt.
but plenty on this forum say that certain parties are fully for open borders, they can't be lying as they pride themselves on their truthfulness.
not everyone is racist as such but in life we are all predijuced sadly ... so racism is probably a part of this with a few people and is something the brain can't do much about .
In other words you have no choice over what you find appealing/agreeable etc .
What i would like to know is at what point does a white racist person draw a line ... and does this racism include other whites ? Polish immigrants for example .
Its a bit confusing tbf
In other words you have no choice over what you find appealing/agreeable etc .
What i would like to know is at what point does a white racist person draw a line ... and does this racism include other whites ? Polish immigrants for example .
Its a bit confusing tbf
Makes life easier to put them all in little boxes
Farage: racist
Corbyn: communist
May: incompetent
Farage: racist
Corbyn: communist
May: incompetent
when open borders is really only favoured by the very far left (no, not Labour as much as you would like to deem them real radicals) and certain types of libertarian free market types.
We'll be in safe hands if Labour get in.
Diane has all angles covered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMh_WlrZT0
Diane has all angles covered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMh_WlrZT0
Macs always had it in for Mouse ever since he ditched Minnie.
It's pretty obvious Farage veers towards being a racist. The disgraceful stuff like the 'Breaking Point" poster, his general unwillingness to condemn racist supporters and many other examples. He's a man with few morals and principles hoodwinking those low in intelligence. Unfortunately the country is full of them. Sadly whilst 17.4m are not all racist a large percentage are either outright racist or xenophobic in some way. Farage has added to this with his rhetoric.
Why do people think Nigel Paul Farage is racist?
Because their Twitter feed told them he is.
My hunch is that if we were to be able to identify those who make up this troupe of virtual Howler Monkeys, it would turn out that we are allowing our way of life to be steered by little more than pimple-faced Kleenex fillers, intimidated by the cavortings on Redtube into not even trying to get laid and upset that Mum's just shouted up that it's lasagne again and she's serious about no more turkey twizzlers.
Because their Twitter feed told them he is.
My hunch is that if we were to be able to identify those who make up this troupe of virtual Howler Monkeys, it would turn out that we are allowing our way of life to be steered by little more than pimple-faced Kleenex fillers, intimidated by the cavortings on Redtube into not even trying to get laid and upset that Mum's just shouted up that it's lasagne again and she's serious about no more turkey twizzlers.
brilliant phrase Mum's just shouted up that it's lasagne again and she's serious about no more turkey twizzlers.
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Hanx posting that unironically, unaware that trump and Brexit lovers are far more uniform in their views than their opponents
Really?
I've generally found the Right to be more open to discussions, debate, freedom of speech etc.
it is the Left who wants nothing doing except to rid the world of any counter views, opinions and actions. They're the ones who call for angry demonstrations on the streets, burn cars, shops and cause havoc on our streets when things don't go their way. It is the left who want to ram their intolerant and authoritarian views down our throats.
Go down the list of all Twitter hate mobs, people sacked, voices throttled, calls to boycott, divestment and sanction against businesses and countries, visiting music and theatre acts hounded out, conservative speakers de-platformed from university debates...I could go on and on....but you will soon come to conclusion that the Left is now totally out of control.
Emboldened by friendly media like CNN, NYT, BBC etc. and presidents, chancellors and prime ministers like Obama, Merkel, Macron, Blair etc. apparently on their side, these modern-day thought-police have started showing their true colours.
I've generally found the Right to be more open to discussions, debate, freedom of speech etc.
it is the Left who wants nothing doing except to rid the world of any counter views, opinions and actions. They're the ones who call for angry demonstrations on the streets, burn cars, shops and cause havoc on our streets when things don't go their way. It is the left who want to ram their intolerant and authoritarian views down our throats.
Go down the list of all Twitter hate mobs, people sacked, voices throttled, calls to boycott, divestment and sanction against businesses and countries, visiting music and theatre acts hounded out, conservative speakers de-platformed from university debates...I could go on and on....but you will soon come to conclusion that the Left is now totally out of control.
Emboldened by friendly media like CNN, NYT, BBC etc. and presidents, chancellors and prime ministers like Obama, Merkel, Macron, Blair etc. apparently on their side, these modern-day thought-police have started showing their true colours.
Lovely post Hanx..couldn't agree more.Take a look at this Canadian Journo asking a simple question.
https://www.therebel.media/tommy-robinson-burnley-ready-made-protesters-wont-answer-questions-funding-signs?utm_campaign=js_tommy_protesters&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel
https://www.therebel.media/tommy-robinson-burnley-ready-made-protesters-wont-answer-questions-funding-signs?utm_campaign=js_tommy_protesters&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel
Hanx is spot on..as the great man once said "Hail the New Puritan!"
"it is the Left who wants nothing doing except to rid the world of any counter views, opinions and actions."
Absolutely true, there is overwhelming evidence this is the case. In the past month alone or so, in amongst other things, we've had the left wing academics get Jordan Peterson fired from lecturing a bit at oxbridge before he'd even done any, and again at oxbridge a researcher who had done research the left didn't like as they didn't like the results, fired as well.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/05/09/the-lynch-mobbing-of-noah-carl/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cambridge-scholar-noah-carl-sacked-for-questioning-sacred-left-g3d6qvwzm
Absolutely true, there is overwhelming evidence this is the case. In the past month alone or so, in amongst other things, we've had the left wing academics get Jordan Peterson fired from lecturing a bit at oxbridge before he'd even done any, and again at oxbridge a researcher who had done research the left didn't like as they didn't like the results, fired as well.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/05/09/the-lynch-mobbing-of-noah-carl/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cambridge-scholar-noah-carl-sacked-for-questioning-sacred-left-g3d6qvwzm
Hanx offering a whole load of info irrelevant to my post that said those types of people think far more the same than people who dislike Farage, or trump for example. It's not like anyone on here as much working knowledge of left politics beyond what they heard from outrage merchants on the internet.
The right seem to be open to freedom of speech until someone says a mean word and then they ge1t just as outraged as SJWs or whatever. Seems to be some imaginary world that you lot are living in when all the authoritarian or authoritarian-lite politicians on social issues are all conservatives. Duterte, Orban, Bolsanaro, Trump etc. Its certainly not the left seething on another thread on here about kids being told that gay people exist.
What's wrong with BDS? it's people exercising their right to say that what Israel is doing is bad. Was it the same when there were boycotts in apartheid-era South Africa and a restriction on freedom of speech? Conservatives decide to shut down this debate by calling all supporters of it anti-semitic, while elsewhere engaging in that elsewhere.
You listed 4 politicians that are centrists at best and no leftists btw.
Unsurprisingly, you and JC buy into the idiotic culture war about campus politics, which noone really cares about but it's good to rile up the old base.
The right seem to be open to freedom of speech until someone says a mean word and then they ge1t just as outraged as SJWs or whatever. Seems to be some imaginary world that you lot are living in when all the authoritarian or authoritarian-lite politicians on social issues are all conservatives. Duterte, Orban, Bolsanaro, Trump etc. Its certainly not the left seething on another thread on here about kids being told that gay people exist.
What's wrong with BDS? it's people exercising their right to say that what Israel is doing is bad. Was it the same when there were boycotts in apartheid-era South Africa and a restriction on freedom of speech? Conservatives decide to shut down this debate by calling all supporters of it anti-semitic, while elsewhere engaging in that elsewhere.
You listed 4 politicians that are centrists at best and no leftists btw.
Unsurprisingly, you and JC buy into the idiotic culture war about campus politics, which noone really cares about but it's good to rile up the old base.
"Unsurprisingly, you and JC buy into the idiotic culture war about campus politics, which noone really cares about but it's good to rile up the old base."
We are all aware of where the idiocy is coming from on this thread.
When 50% of whatever of people are now going to uni, especially the future movers and shakers, it takes a quite incredibly level of idiocy to not see what's wrong with them all being educated by left to very far left people in left wing ideology, and anything that can even be accused of being "right wing" thought being suppressed, no platformed, and banned. But there we are, welcome to the world of the BF left wing troll.
We are all aware of where the idiocy is coming from on this thread.
When 50% of whatever of people are now going to uni, especially the future movers and shakers, it takes a quite incredibly level of idiocy to not see what's wrong with them all being educated by left to very far left people in left wing ideology, and anything that can even be accused of being "right wing" thought being suppressed, no platformed, and banned. But there we are, welcome to the world of the BF left wing troll.
Probably works that way cause the more intelligent you are, the less likely you are to fall for reactionary conservatives. The extent of left wingers I saw and heard from at uni when I was there just over 5 years ago was seeing annoying SWP people selling their stuff outside the union from time to time.
I know you all like to imagine it's this radical hotbed of commies but that really isnt the case. Teachers can't get students to do all their reading, never mind brainwash them into thinking like they do!
What right wing views are often being suppressed btw, are they banning speakers calling for lower taxes or perhaps promoting privatisation of resources. Or maybe, the banning of anyone who believes in free market economics to an extreme extent. Or is it hateful idiots engaging in falsehoods most of the time?
I know you all like to imagine it's this radical hotbed of commies but that really isnt the case. Teachers can't get students to do all their reading, never mind brainwash them into thinking like they do!
What right wing views are often being suppressed btw, are they banning speakers calling for lower taxes or perhaps promoting privatisation of resources. Or maybe, the banning of anyone who believes in free market economics to an extreme extent. Or is it hateful idiots engaging in falsehoods most of the time?
It's good that Kermit cant continue his grift, he already got exposed when he actually debated a proper leftist speaker who turned out to not be like the straw man created or a unprepared student
Anybody who proposes any sort of immigration control is always accused of being a racist
It is like a big wooden club to beat them over with
But if you look in a Dictionary that is NOT the definition.
The definition is hatred towards people of another race because they are of another race.
But most people do not have this hatred, they just do not want them living here
because a) it means we have too many people in the country,
and b) it threatens our traditional British Culture we do not want to lose, and some aspects of their culture
do cause us problems, read this forum everyday lool
If they stay in their own country I have no problem with other races
It is like a big wooden club to beat them over with
But if you look in a Dictionary that is NOT the definition.
The definition is hatred towards people of another race because they are of another race.
But most people do not have this hatred, they just do not want them living here
because a) it means we have too many people in the country,
and b) it threatens our traditional British Culture we do not want to lose, and some aspects of their culture
do cause us problems, read this forum everyday lool
If they stay in their own country I have no problem with other races
Anybody who proposes any sort of immigration control is always accused of being a racist
simply not true
simply not true
"Anybody who proposes any sort of immigration control is always accused of being a racist"
"simply not true"
It's very true. Actually it's not entirely true, they are often called fascists instead.
"simply not true"
It's very true. Actually it's not entirely true, they are often called fascists instead.
Glad to see many sensible views. I understand that some people won't like him but to suggest he's racist is desperate.
What right wing views are often being suppressed btw, are they banning speakers calling for lower taxes or perhaps promoting privatisation of resources. Or maybe, the banning of anyone who believes in free market economics to an extreme extent. Or is it hateful idiots engaging in falsehoods most of the time?
Look at the cases of Toby Young and Roger Scruton, sacked without compunction from Government Advisory bodies because of their views (and in Scruton's case, wholly misrepresented, self-confessed hatchet job by the 'journalist' in question). Jordan Peterson's no-platforming is also well documented.
Whether you can call any of the above's view's 'right-wing' is a moot point, since a problem arises when the spectrum of left to right is used to scare people with a relativistic notion that they are "extreme", forgetting that the left has pulled the fulcrum of the see-saw way towards itself over the last twenty years - accelerating the process in the last ten.
Look at the cases of Toby Young and Roger Scruton, sacked without compunction from Government Advisory bodies because of their views (and in Scruton's case, wholly misrepresented, self-confessed hatchet job by the 'journalist' in question). Jordan Peterson's no-platforming is also well documented.
Whether you can call any of the above's view's 'right-wing' is a moot point, since a problem arises when the spectrum of left to right is used to scare people with a relativistic notion that they are "extreme", forgetting that the left has pulled the fulcrum of the see-saw way towards itself over the last twenty years - accelerating the process in the last ten.
It's very true. Actually it's not entirely true, they are often called fascists instead.
very true just checking
and a Nazi and worse
By doing this they close all sensible discussion on this subject
We need to reject this one word defence …. and discuss the advantages and disadvantages of immigration in a meaningful way
... so people can make a considered opinion
very true just checking
and a Nazi and worse
By doing this they close all sensible discussion on this subject
We need to reject this one word defence …. and discuss the advantages and disadvantages of immigration in a meaningful way
... so people can make a considered opinion
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