Alex Scott The Football Commentator

Alex Scott is a great football pundit. Talks more sense than most analysts.

I've never cared who pundits are, it's the football you want to watch, however a lot of girls like football but don't persist with it because it was always male dominated, seeing women as pundits and lineswomen who encourage them, only a matter of time before there's a female manager in the top 4 divisions in England, probably by 2030. I also think Phil Neville was given the Women's Manager position to increse it's profile rather than because he was the best candidate, though I think he's done decent enough job.

Needs to man up.  Not everyone will like you.  Lots of people will hate you for no obvious reason.  So what.  Just get on and live your life instead of all this hand-wringing sobbing I-need-therapy nonsense.  Sick to death of people having a meltdown every five minutes.  Stop being so fücking weak and pathetic.

that was quite a meltdown lybertyne, need to man up imo

True L. One has to have a thick skin if working in the public domain. It seems to be a modern trend.

A woman can't even get the England womens position ffs

Seems a sensible person so doubt she'd get mixed up with criticism and abuse.

heard from someone I know at skysports she gives good head

Would sooner have her on than the likes of that scummy shytehawk Carragher how he got away with that beggars belief.

more or less called souness a dinosaur ,the mail seems to think pinching a few cliches that Klopp,sari,pep etc might or might not use makes her credible, what she fails to realise is that sounness was saying full press,short press, etc might be modern terms but have always been coached but just went down as part of the game,mizz scott might drool wet herself over the roles of ferenandino,henderson,etc in team,s but if she takes a look at the 1966 world cup pacesless,skill less,nobby stiles was doing it over 50 years ago,
its the fact that as well as her clichés she goes into press to basically say those players,fans,pundits who havnt been in a modern dressing room,training field don't understand the game anymore,closing down defenders,goalkeepers who are pratting about around their box is hardly earth shattering tactics,or letting defenders come forward with the ball,leaving them with ball rather than letting messi,mane,sterling etc get on it is hardly earth shattering, don't suppose any manager 60 years ago told a player to make sure you make nobby stiles pass the ball to George best, in a zillion games obi mekel scored his 2nd goal last week,alex scott would smugly tell viewers that opposition should let mekel have the ball,same as most coaches facing city are quite happy to let walker have the ball and bnatter it a 100 times into a defenders legs,
alex luv it aint new and it aint rocket science,you wernt educating souness as you seem to think, you were using a new phrase to explain something souness was doing in his sleep 30 years ago,without a posh label to describe it

Total and utter sexism from the likes of sky
Everytime i turn on the watch Footy,Racing,Tennis,Golf,Rugger
you get Female pundits more often than men
Yet was watching the netball on sky last night and not a male pundit
to be seen or heard sky need to have equal op's for men imo.

to watch

Phil Nev's the only bloke what's really into the netball.

They should shorten the skirts to raise interest (amongst other things) imo.

May 12, 2019 -- 5:04AM, 1st time poster wrote:

more or less called souness a dinosaur ,the mail seems to think pinching a few cliches that Klopp,sari,pep etc might or might not use makes her credible, what she fails to realise is that sounness was saying full press,short press, etc might be modern terms but have always been coached but just went down as part of the game,mizz scott might drool wet herself over the roles of ferenandino,henderson,etc in team,s but if she takes a look at the 1966 world cup pacesless,skill less,nobby stiles was doing it over 50 years ago, its the fact that as well as her clichés she goes into press to basically say those players,fans,pundits who havnt been in a modern dressing room,training field don't understand the game anymore,closing down defenders,goalkeepers who are pratting about around their box is hardly earth shattering tactics,or letting defenders come forward with the ball,leaving them with ball rather than letting messi,mane,sterling etc get on it is hardly earth shattering, don't suppose any manager 60 years ago told a player to make sure you make nobby stiles pass the ball to George best, in a zillion games obi mekel scored his 2nd goal last week,alex scott would smugly tell viewers that opposition should let mekel have the ball,same as most coaches facing city are quite happy to let walker have the ball and bnatter it a 100 times into a defenders legs,alex luv it aint new and it aint rocket science,you wernt educating souness as you seem to think, you were using a new phrase to explain something souness was doing in his sleep 30 years ago,without a posh label to describe it

She's played on a few parks hasn't she, so she must know what she's on about

Another fancy modern day term is "low block", its pathetic really, its just another way of calling Dyches tactics "defensive", but they have fancy names for everything now, watch Al Murray "secretary" shtick to fully understand how stupid modern society is

But she was a rubbish player in a rubbish womens game ffs, but her opinion matters doesn't it so that's that

Football is a simple sport made complicated by idiots

Case in point was last night in the Derby Leeds match, you could say Derby have better players on paper, but Leeds are better coached and more well drilled

3 times Leeds have made Derby look totally stupid this season, and that's down to the coaching staff at both clubs

Scott would insult her viewers with fancy terms, but don't dare give a lesson back because you'll be accused of being abusive

We use to turn around and ask know it alls a question, 'if your so good why don't you give it a go' as in give management or coaching a go here?

Nah, she'd rather insult former players who have been in the game before she was born eh, and then scream "sexism" if she's called out for it

And people defended her over Souness ffs

She's doing very well for herself.  It's hard to think of any other regular Premier League pundit who never actually played or managed in that division.  Every ex-lower-league-footballer trying to carve out a career in punditry is restricted to lower league TV games as far as I can see.  Not only that, she appears on both Sky and BBC's flagship programmes - that must be unique

mixed raced, a women, successful, can see how some people would be upset, does a great job.

If she's so knowledgeable and intelligent why not try her hand in coaching?

Or is it a case of her just using fancy buzz phrases and not totally understanding them?

I bet a fiver right now she wouldn't have a clue where to start on a training ground never mind working out opposition weaknesses etc

Bielsa at Leeds gave a presentation on Derby? like what hand signals they used for corners etc? can you see her being able to do the same ? I don't think so

She's getting a fair wad for talking buzz words on SKY and BBC though I giver her that

May 12, 2019 -- 11:41AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

mixed raced, a women, successful, can see how some people would be upset, does a great job.

You think this upsets people most contrary your belief can judge like for like praise and critcise regardless regardless or race,gender etc.

Take her to a proper training briefing, ask her to watch an oppositions game and then get her to work out how to stifle the opposition

Stop the ball getting to Messi? how do you stop the ball getting to Messi, Miss Scott

Might have know someone would turn up with the "race, sex" card as well, no doubt wont be able to get into a proper debate with us though

DenzilPenberthy 12 May 19 09:13 Joined: 14 Dec 17 | Topic/replies: 6,541 | Blogger: DenzilPenberthy's blog
They should shorten the skirts to


great addition to debate

May 12, 2019 -- 11:48AM, donny osmond wrote:

DenzilPenberthy 12 May 19 09:13 Joined: 14 Dec 17 | Topic/replies: 6,541 | Blogger: DenzilPenberthy's blogThey should shorten the skirts togreat addition to debate

Thanks

Furthermore it was a suggestion to up the interest in Netball,sex sells as we know get the testosterone fuelled adolescents interested and the game may progress beyond the interest of Phil Neville.

she thinks just saying 'don't let them get the ball to messi' means she's a world class thinker, an expert in football

Like they haven't thought of that themselves? they'd have worked out the opposition will have worked on stopping messi and come up with another tactic to counter it

How do you then stop that tactic mid game, miss scott

This is where you get called a sexist pig and told to shut up

Edit of my 11:41AM post first one sloppy

You think this upsets people most contrary your belief can judge like for like praise and critcise regardless of race,gender etc.

Would like to add its not just Alex Scott though

Gary Neville is another, he tried his hand at it and got made to look a total pillock, at least he tried though and then pretty much admitted he wasn't good enough

If she's so knowledgeable and intelligent why not try her hand in coaching?



What about Carragher, Jamie Redknapp, Kevin Kilbane, Rio Ferdinand, Robbie Savage?

All of them are male pundits, why not tell them to try their hand in coaching as well if they are so knowledgable ?

Or Gary Neville, who had 1 short stint and bombed, yet is lauded as the best pundit.

Or football fans, are they not qualified to talk about football either because they've never coached

Scand - I've just made a comment above stating that

But those guys aren't screaming "sexism" for being called out

But yeah they are in the same bracket as Scott, know it alls that don't fully understand what they are on about, hence why Neville got made to look stupid in his short stint

Again scand, there's having an opinion but you need to know your going to be called out on it? like now with us debating it, one of us could run off to the BBC and tell them we are being bullied?

My argument is that she's ran off to the media to scream "sexism" and "bullying" because she's been getting some stick and being ask to debate

Some idiots have gone and insulted her but christ almighty its "social media", we should all be use to getting some insults thrown at us

But she doesn't like being asked to fully explain her opinion, because she cant as its all fancy buzz phrases with no substance behind it

And to be fair to Robbie Savage he hasn't insulted one of the greats of the game (Souness) by technically calling him a dinosaur

He hasn't been in a modern day coaching role? well neither as Alex Scott? kinda contradicts her argument doesn't it

Souness as managed in Turkey, one of the most intense atmospheres in world football ffs

Lets see someone like Alex Scott go and do that?

You're wasting your time SS pointing all this out to scandi he is extremely sensitive to the remotest criticism of anyone who isn't a hetrosexual white atheist male and doesn't understand the concept of judging all like for like by deeds and words.

She actually thinks she is in that job on merit. “Not a tick in a box”.
Get real, love.

I won't watch women's football

I don't know how women are in other areas of football myself?

If a women works in a man's world, she must expert the same treatment as men...seems fair to me

Although I don't expect her to use the same loo

UBLE

Not how it works sadly

They get in on a tick in a box method and then want everyone to pander to them

The way she spoke down to Souness because he didn't understand the BS jargon they use today was awful, the man has forgotten more about football than we'll ever know, a bit more respect was in order

there has been a tactical innovation ,style of play this season that could be debated,explained to people but as alex scott has probably never heard of chris wilder or sheff utd, don't expect scott to talk you through it till she,s heard Klopp.pep etc give their opinion on it

That's my opinion on her, 1tp

She's parroting what someone else has told her, hence Souness looking amused when she's trying to explain it to him, she would have been better off just saying its a defensive tactic, two banks of four etc

She thinks she's come up with this "low block" theory herself the way she talks about it ffs, its nothing new duck, its been around since day 1 just slight alterations and different variations of such tactics/formations

Young girls, blouses as goalpoasts, marvellous.

Pundits are only useful to give some insight into behind the scenes - 99% of them have always been completely useless at describing the game.

Shearer and Lineker practically invented the law of ‘there’s contact so it’s a penalty’.
Hansen refusing to believe goals are anything other than defensive mistakes
Dixon baffled by anything that isn’t 4-4-2

Scott fits right in as a pundit.

seen today even with gormless ya ya the chemistry much better with 3 blokes no treading on eggshells biting your tongue,its a bit like the betting advert with the manager watching every thing he says,man on,or woman,fox in the box , imean vixen etc,etc

Don't get this thread

She gave an interview saying she had been given sexist abuse online, thought about packing it in, but decided to carry on as most people are fair minded whether they agree with her or not.

Not seen any example of her calling constructive criticism abuse.

re Souness she was asked if she had a problem with him interrupting her and she said no, he does that to everyone else, doesn't mind and doesn't expect to be treated differently.

female manager of chelski said the current standard of womens goalkeeping makes it laughable to consider it an elite sport and to help suggests they make the goals smaller for womens football to help female keepers out,
maybe use beech balls so strikers wont hurt their heads

beech balls would be painful, imo

Make the goals smaller? ffs. And they want to earn the same as the men?

Womens football is none league standard, I'd say most none league sides would just kick them out the game and beat them through that alone as well

They can't even fill none league grounds and they are demanding 50k a week wages? absolute mockery

These "lefties" can't seem to fathom to earn more money you have to offer a product that pays, you have to attract the numbers ffs

They want this and they want that, yet no one wants to pay for your s*** product

Its laughable

its a million miles behind non lg standard,any sunday morning mens pub team would beat englands team,imo

interesting to see what viewing figures are for world cup

if noby is interested, or if folk turn over to watch homes under the hammer,
or come dine with me.

pub teams covered live on a sunday, on bbc would be a great idea.

nobody

They'd get kicked out the game, 1TP, the men would beat them through nothing more than aggression

They keep sounding off in the media, hows about you organise a game with a league 2 side and prove your worth ? nope wont do that because they know they'd get smashed

Instead its easier for the media to talk about awful women have it with periods and babies ffs

They can't even attract their own demographic into the game, girls just aren't interested, so what chance do they have of attracting a wider audience?

players could have a swift half if a var was called...

Women have periods? I didn't know that, BBC

Women have babies? didn't know that either, BBC

Its natural is it, BBC?

ffs

If no one watched the matches, and viewing figures were poor,  would we be told though??

Would it make any difference to women's football scheduling??

More and more is going to be rammed down our throats.

could provide mirrors,hairdryers etc on the sidelines for the ladies to have a touch up during any breaks for VAR

bbc 1 saturday 1pm england v new zealand, last wc warm up game. years ago it would have been the epsom derby.

Benny

No they wont tell us, just like they don't tell us all about the stuff going on in the middle east

But to it simply they will just... lie

Say its getting its highest viewing figures and provide absolutely no evidence of this, and the public who just don't care wont care

phil Neville gets paid to watch ,produce it and said it was shoite last week and he wouldn't have watched THAT

lippy breaks , like the lasses on the make up counters , during var breaks.



one of most annoying things about ladies football, is same as schoolboy stuff and
thats the crowd noises. you cant beat adult male supporters for creating atmosphere
and without it, its not the same.

if kicking the other team was allowed as a means of victory in ladies football, then
there would be teams using that tactic, and the pub teams wiuld get stuffed !

i guess neville has considered it

the goals are a bit big for them, as are the bigger pitches like wembley, they
should accept that and do something. then the game will be of higher standard
or at least appear so.

souness narrowed the pitch at ibrox, no shame in that

had a bath at HT too

1 weird fish and spelt graham funny

too fond of the RC too

Read somewhere that when footie started, say 1800’s sometime, the average male height was 5’ 5” ... about the same as women now.
Goals have always been 6’ by 6 yds.

reaching the balls aint the problem, dropping them and throwing them in the net is the problem for ladies goalkeepers

unless the idea is the smaller the goals  the harder to throw them in the net,

Going against the grain here a little, but following Lyon women this year has been quite lucrative.

Wouldn't watch it though

That’s an interesting point about height,racing cert.even in the 1960s & 70s plenty of goalkeepers were well under 6 ft.from memory England keepers spring etc & bonetti were only 5 ft 9/10.

Springett **

if they shrink the goals they,ll do what we did at school put the useless fat fecker between the beans on toasts

if you played in the park with jumpers for goalposts a small goalie could
always kick the jumpers a bit closer to each other and nobody would notice.

he would likely get more decisions when claims were made for over the bar.

so small lads went in goal, nobody else wanted to anyway, and we ended
up with small goalies ....

fat lads were fat because they didnt do sport

^^or they didn't do sport because they were fat.

had their uses in tug of war ...!

Fran Kirby (England striker) : believes the country’s female players “need to win the World Cup” before they can entertain discussions about equal pay with male footballers.

“Ultimately we are doing the same job as the men, but I understand that we’re not filling out stadiums'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2019/05/24/fran-kirby-need-win-world-cup-can-talk-equal-pay-englands-women/

With this 'logic' ANYONE who plays football should get Prem wages?????

if sky/bbc love womens football that much why don't they tell ther epl thery have to split tv money evenly between the mens and womens game

I was down the park last week and we were watched by a couple walking their dogs, so where's my 150k a week?

I have also been reading up about how to do brain surgery on google, so where's my job offers for that?

May 29, 2019 -- 4:16PM, Injera wrote:

Fran Kirby (England striker) : believes the country’s female players “need to win the World Cup” before they can entertain discussions about equal pay with male footballers.“Ultimately we are doing the same job as the men, but I understand that we’re not filling out stadiums'https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2019/05/24/fran-kirby-need-wi... this 'logic' ANYONE who plays football should get Prem wages?????

They just don't get it, totally and utterly brainwashed by the media

You can only earn what you ultimately attract in revenue, and they attract no one

But they have periods so surely that's a reason to pay them big money ?

Even watching the Leeds Derby playoff semi, people were all talking about it afterwards, it attracted a lot of attention because of the whole spying stuff

Sorry but womens football will never attract the same attention, its boring and of s*** quality

They are nice looking though, something they do have an advantage over the men in

the biggest con is the way they call themselves arsenal,chelksi ,man city etc without ever referring to it as womens football