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terry mccann
20 Apr 19 09:45
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The war on cash is a war on freedom. When all cash is gone how do you buy anything when the computer says "NO" to your digital money?  That's the idea.

There you having what you think is a private chat with the wife or whoever but your Smarts and lovely Alexa is listening to every word,and you might just say something the Government or whatever is in charge thinks doesn't fall into line,the next time you go into the supermarket and buy all that lovely grub,the cashier says "sorry mate you have no credit,put it back"what ya gonna do? Don't let them get away with this Big Brother **** because its here sooner than you think.

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Aspro
When: 20 Apr 19 09:50
Spurs new stadium is cashless Shocked
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 09:52
All the cash machines are being taken awayShocked
By:
Aspro
When: 20 Apr 19 09:55
I had an incident, not that long ago. I was in ASDA and had done a small shop so I decided to use the auto check out. When I had finished I inserted my debit card and a voice (that sounded louder than it probably was) said that my card had been denied. I was embarrassed and horrified considering my balance is always comfortably in credit. I used another card and when I got home I was straight on the phone to the bank. Bank was still in credit but they told me they had no record of any transaction in ASDA, accepted or denied. Not a pleasant scenario at all!
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 09:56
Notes and coins are increasingly irrelevant.

Since returning to the UK in January following eleven years away, I go about my daily life with no bank notes or coins in my possession.
The only fly in that particular ointment has been the need to obtain some coins to put under my daughters pillow from the tooth fairy.

Whilst certain rural communities may not have adequate broadband to support the full range of electronic payment methods that have replaced cash, this is a solvable problem.

Other than drug dealers, I'm struggling to think of any groups who will argue for the continuation of payment in cash.
By:
Aspro
When: 20 Apr 19 09:59
I think we can all accept that a cashless society is on the horizon. Terry says "Don't let them get away with this" but what can any of us do to stop it? It is too late for that.
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:01
Aspro not nice,but if that happened in the way I have described ,there will be NO  number to call,then what? Scared
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:05
Its all about control and has been planned for years, just look whats going down in China right now,credit points taking off for the slightest thing etc etc, and its coming to your doorstep very soon
By:
Joel
When: 20 Apr 19 10:05
No problem.
By:
Aspro
When: 20 Apr 19 10:09
I repeat... what can any of us do to stop it? The simple answer is nothing! I know your answer will be to stop using cards but the amount of people that follow that lead will not even put a blip on the screens. It is inevitable.
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:09
No if you don't mind having no thoughts of your own,"GOVERNMENT IS GOD"
By:
Joel
When: 20 Apr 19 10:10
I thought we were gonna be dead soon anyway
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:11
Aspro,people are like sheep,just follow.
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 10:12

Apr 20, 2019 -- 10:09AM, Aspro wrote:


I repeat... what can any of us do to stop it? The simple answer is nothing! I know your answer will be to stop using cards but the amount of people that follow that lead will not even put a blip on the screens. It is inevitable.


Get Extinction Rebellion to lobby for the abolition of digital payment technology as part of their climate change argument Mischief

By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:12
Its just another piece of the jigsaw Joel but I like your thinking--sort of.
By:
Aspro
When: 20 Apr 19 10:12
The real benefit to the government will be self-employed traders, especially in the building industry. Think of the extra tax they will collect that is currently being avoided!
By:
aaronh
When: 20 Apr 19 10:16
hope you are accessing the forum through several layers of security terry, otherwise they might already be making plans for you
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Apr 19 10:25
Bitcoins.
The good ones. High resolution ones with 256 bits.
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:26
Tax on every transaction,now that's nice isn't it!
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Apr 19 10:26
So who does that benefit? well it isn't you!
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 20 Apr 19 10:27
All the cash machines are being taken away

They certainly are....by Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves!

One was taken, in the dead of night, from Tesco Express at Brayton.....

This was many months ago and is just now being replaced!
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Apr 19 10:48
How do you know it was the gypsies? Could be a planned strategy to wipe cash off the planet. They burn all the cash at home and tell you it was the gypsies. Fkin mainstream media.
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 10:49
Maybe it was Cher Sad
By:
Joel
When: 20 Apr 19 11:42
Of course it benefits us, tax collected by the government and put to good use, how do you think they pay for roads? rail? hostipals?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Apr 19 12:03
I can't remember the last time I went in my local supermarket and saw someone paying with actual hard cash, its always with a card and its a little swipe and its all done Sad

I pay with cash, and if its for something like an energy drink its paid with loose change, and I would advise anyone to go back to actual hard cash as its the safest monetry system there is
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 20 Apr 19 12:08
Cash is king. A few months ago went to cash point to get some money out and my card got swallowed by the machine took 5 days to get sent new card then new pin, good job i had some cash on me or i would have been in shyte street for them 5 days.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Apr 19 12:09

Apr 20, 2019 -- 9:56AM, Angoose wrote:


Notes and coins are increasingly irrelevant. Since returning to the UK in January following eleven years away, I go about my daily life with no bank notes or coins in my possession.The only fly in that particular ointment has been the need to obtain some coins to put under my daughters pillow from the tooth fairy.Whilst certain rural communities may not have adequate broadband to support the full range of electronic payment methods that have replaced cash, this is a solvable problem.Other than drug dealers, I'm struggling to think of any groups who will argue for the continuation of payment in cash.


Come back when you've been "hacked" or your payments are being rejected because of a problem on the bank side

And we are heading for China based system of social scoring, and you can bet your life its not far off, in China they literally need a good social score to be able to use the toilet paper dispenser Crazy

If you think this is for our benefits you are sadly mistaken, remember when the internet was largelly un-regulated? not like today where every single post we make is tagged and logged, and you can have a police "officer" knocking at the door at 4 in the morning

Just look at the abuse Brian Harvey receives on Youtube

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Apr 19 12:12

Apr 20, 2019 -- 12:08PM, Early Morning Riser wrote:


Cash is king. A few months ago went to cash point to get some money out and my card got swallowed by the machine took 5 days to get sent new card then new pin, good job i had some cash on me or i would have been in shyte street for them 5 days.


That's my argument

Its ok when the machines are playing ball, but what happens if the card is "eaten" and you have no cash to hand?

What's the pro digital argument to that? what happens if the system goes down?

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Apr 19 12:13

Apr 20, 2019 -- 9:59AM, Aspro wrote:


I think we can all accept that a cashless society is on the horizon. Terry says "Don't let them get away with this" but what can any of us do to stop it? It is too late for that.


It is to late

I'd say 90% of the people that live in my area use cards, and the young generation laugh at anyone who is seen using loose change ffs

Its over in the sense of getting it stopped

By:
detraveller
When: 20 Apr 19 12:25
Each system has its own advantages and disadvantages. The system that will finally work is the one that suits the powerful, whoever that may be at that poin, irrespective of its disadvantages to the public. Im pretty sure when cash came into existence, people said oh look they are gonna write a number on a piece of paper and keep all the gold coins. Today's paper money is a joke in itself, and we are arguing over what happens when they turn in into digital crap instead of paper crap :/

The general public has always had to do with whatever the powerful of the time decide for them. Some go with it, some complain. Cash can remain the king but its going away pretty soon. Whether thats a conspiracy or not does not matter.
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 20 Apr 19 12:27
Going cashless will only benefit the Government and the banks. Once this happens you can be sure the banks will start charging again for bank accounts,card transaction fees and if you go in the red by a few pence will be charged overdraft charges of £20 a day etc, and HMRC will be wanting to know where every penny in your account came from in that tax year.
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 12:30
It all went wrong when electricity was discovered, understood, and then harnessed for use by humans.
Let's turn back the sun dial and eliminate all technological advances.

By the way, cash remains king, nothing as changed in that regard.
It just doesn't need to be physical notes and coins.
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Apr 19 12:34
Exactly. Cash is King basically means your money is safer staying uninvested(probably not a word) rather than invested in a market that is overvalued. It has nothing to do with paper money. Cash is King will be valid in a cashless society as well.
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Apr 19 12:39
Didnt Modi feck the paper money holders last year by banning a particular denomination? People with illegal money were trapped. All it took was an announcement to replace the 500 note i think. The govt can still feck you if you keep cash. With digital, they probably just wont need to. Thats all the difference there is.
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 12:59
It was the 500 and 1,000 rupee notes that were withdrawn from circulation as part of an initiative to take back control and clamp down on the thriving black economy.
By:
Knight Commander
When: 20 Apr 19 13:06
Try checking into a hotel without a card
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 20 Apr 19 13:22
Going cashless will give the governments and banks greater control over money

We won't be able to stuff it in the mattress

Although if the government keep changing the notes as they do...even stuffing it there won't help us
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 20 Apr 19 13:23
BIG BROTHER
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 20 Apr 19 13:34
Going cashless will give the governments and banks greater control over money

We won't be able to stuff it in the mattress

Although if the government keep changing the notes as they do...even stuffing it there won't help us


Correct, the new polymer £20 note will be issued in 2020.
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Apr 19 13:35
We have moved on from sexist term of Big Brother to the gender neutral Big Sibling Mischief
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