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03 Apr 19 07:58
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Brunei is introducing strict new Islamic laws that make gay sex an offence punishable by stoning to death.

The new measures, that come into force on Wednesday, also cover a range of other crimes including punishment for theft by amputation.

The move has sparked international condemnation.

In a public address on Wednesday, the sultan of the small south-east Asian nation called for "stronger" Islamic teachings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47769964

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By:
conditor
When: 03 Apr 19 08:10
Let those without sin.....
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 03 Apr 19 08:50
Is it really Islamic teachings that justify this course of action?
By:
lybertyne
When: 03 Apr 19 10:14
Religion of peace.  Must be a confusing time for the liberals.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 03 Apr 19 10:19
Agree with Lyb , but of course none of the Followers in this country would condone such actions ? Plain
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 03 Apr 19 10:23
I think it is time that we had a Few Imams and High profile Types on ,to sort out the confusion  ,spec following the recent
uproar in Birmingham ,I am sure they will be able to ease any fears of a rise in  Homophobia ..
By:
Crisp77
When: 03 Apr 19 10:26
So are they after a World Cup or a Grand Prix Confused
By:
lux
When: 03 Apr 19 10:38
Sunan Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 20, Hadith 2561

It was narrated from Ibn`Abbas that the Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him) said:“Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lut, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.”

Perhaps he said it by mistake and the words of the prophet aren't perfect and immutable after all? I'm sure there are a few Imams out there who'd be willing to put people right!

Mischief
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 03 Apr 19 10:39
The law is regarding Anal Sex  , Does this include Male on Female ?
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 03 Apr 19 10:41
(Peace be upon him)

He has been fooking Dead for Centuries FFS Laugh How much more at Peace can someone be ??
By:
Make my hay
When: 03 Apr 19 10:47
but what about Lesbians they can't do anal, do they still get a stoning?
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 11:03
Nothing about this shocking step Surprised on the stalwart of LGBT rights Mr O Jones's twitter feed. Because of course he's got a blind spot 1000 miles wide if the oppressors of gay people aren't white or because e.g. the oppression is due to (I'm quoting above) is due to ""stronger" Islamic teachings". He's finding plenty of time to complain because soldiers are shooting at a picture of a traiterous d1ckhead taped to a target though.Laugh
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 11:05
Death by stoning, there can't be many more barbaric methods Cry? Even if they DO say jehovah.
By:
Hanx
When: 03 Apr 19 11:40
Nothing about this shocking step Surprised on the stalwart of LGBT rights Mr O Jones's twitter feed. Because of course he's got a blind spot 1000 miles wide if the oppressors of gay people aren't white or because e.g. the oppression is due to (I'm quoting above) is due to ""stronger" Islamic teachings". He's finding plenty of time to complain because soldiers are shooting at a picture of a traiterous d1ckhead taped to a target though.Laugh

Because (Oxford Graduate) Owen Jones like ‘the voiceless’ when they’re hard-up mums having to visit food banks or out-of-work young people who feel let down by the world or shrinking LBGT individuals need a therapeutic pat and a handout to counter the wicked ways of an easil identified (white, male, rich - oh just go to the 'Victimhood Handicap' and start at the top).

But working blokes who spend their Saturdays on the terraces and whose political beef is with the rise of a murderous ideology or who are prepared to take a bullet to protect the tattered remains of our 'freedom'?

He has no interest in them. He's scared of them, in fact. He'd prefer it those voiceless people, those ruffians, those oiks with strong views, stayed voiceless.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Apr 19 11:52
lux • April 3, 2019 11:00 AM BST

Sunan Ibn Majah Vol. 3, Book 69, Hadith 6969

“Whoever you find doing the action of the people of the strapon, kill the pumper, and the pumpee.”

I can't breathe LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Seriously though , what is it with these 'people' ? Crazy
By:
Make my hay
When: 03 Apr 19 12:04
Whoever you find doing the action of the people of the strapon, kill the pumper, and the pumpee.”

I hope that clarifies matters.


So what I understand is that the Islamic prophet Muhammad doesn't mind if Islamic Lesbians  finger one another, whereas he doesn't like them using strapons because they look like penises.
What about if they  use strapons that look like giant fingers, in a case like this could they avoid a stoning?
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 12:08
Was the rampant rabbit covered, that's the real pressing issue.
By:
Make my hay
When: 03 Apr 19 12:18
I don't know but if rampant rabbits can save lives then maybe the UK government should think about setting up a  Drop Zone inside Brunei, parachute thousands of them into the needy.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Apr 19 12:48
A few chit chatters will probably need to change their holiday destination or cancel their holiday now..
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 12:53
Can't be as bad as the island where they shoot you with an arrow before they even check your sexuality.
By:
Hanx
When: 03 Apr 19 12:54
A few chit chatters will probably need to change their holiday destination or cancel their holiday now..

Yes and get down to Chesil Beach with a shovel, whilst checking the weight allowance on flights to Brunei
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 13:02
You have to admire the sultan's camp outfit which wouldn't look out of place in the village people.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Apr 19 13:05
Laugh
By:
Crisp77
When: 03 Apr 19 13:08
I pity the poor homosexual who starts getting randy with the locals, thinking it will get him free drugs.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Apr 19 13:27
Shocked crisp

It does seem that some of these Muslim countries have a little way to go before accepting gay rights

Still stoning could be an improvement on what they did to them before, the mind bogglesShocked
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Apr 19 13:30
They do what they teach. What a surprise!
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 13:49
Is he actually German? His name is "Hassanal". Hass (infinitive hassen) is a german word for "hate" Whoops.
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 13:55
BTW, It's interesting that the media are concentrating on the LGTBI aspect of this, it's just one part, it also apparently applies to "adultery" and "insulting the profit". Maybe our media are ok with death for that.
By:
Make my hay
When: 03 Apr 19 14:10
If you were to find yourself in Brunei maybe best not go into a mosque if you have Tourettes.
By:
Just Checking
When: 03 Apr 19 14:12
Or you've just been exposed in "Hello" for having a bit of extra marital rumpy pumpy on a pile of cartoons.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Apr 19 16:43
George Clooney has called for a hotel boycott:

He said Dorchester Collection hotels in the US, UK, France and Italy, which are owned by the Brunei Investment Agency, should be avoided by those who oppose the measures.

- Damn,I'll have to rebook. The missus will be furious.

Ok here's a question: is Clooney being islamaphobic?
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 16:48
Why would you think he's being islamophobic?
By:
Injera
When: 03 Apr 19 16:56
A criticism of Islamic practice is Islamaphobic (apparently).

The Labour Party's definition is:

“Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness.”
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 17:00
Is muslimness definitely a word?
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 17:01
Turns out it is, sounds more like an illness to me.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Apr 19 17:10
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/20/labour-formally-adopts-definition-islamophobia

More than 750 British Muslim organisations, 80 academics and 50 MPs have backed the definition. Naz Shah, the Labour MP for Bradford West and a shadow minister for women and equalities, said all political parties should adopt the definition.

- Incredible they should come up with such a far reaching definition. Hence my question. If Brunei see stoning gays as 'Muslimness' then is criticism of such a practice Islamaphobic and perhaps illegal???

What a tangled web we weave...
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Apr 19 17:12
I just read that definition twice. And I don't even understand it.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Apr 19 17:16
I've just read that definition backwards whilst standing on my head and it made perfect sense to me Crazy
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 03 Apr 19 17:17
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By:
saddo
When: 03 Apr 19 19:10
he sayed on his heed



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