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4 People Stabbed  , Random , Mental illness, 6 foot 3 Skinny Black man being sought

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/edmonton-stabbings-urgent-hunt-for-suspect-after-four-people-attacked-at-random-in-just-hours-a4105396.html

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By:
saddo
When: 31 Mar 19 14:43
What were the odds on the colour? Must be 1.01 these days.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 14:46
Yes the mention of Mental Illness about 10 on , at least a description has been  released
By:
lybertyne
When: 31 Mar 19 15:01
Mentally ill but can stab 4 people and escape detection.  Or is 'mentally ill' a code for something else?
By:
Reynard
When: 31 Mar 19 15:02
"Issues regarding mental illness" . Does anybody think such random attacks are the act of a sane man ? Why state the obvious ? How many years training required to qualify as a criminal profiler ?
By:
Injera
When: 31 Mar 19 15:37
The use of 'mental illness' as an excuse often before arrest let alone prosecution is STAGGERING!!

It gives the criminal's lawyer a free pass. 'Your Honour, I agree with Plod, my client is unwell so send him to hospital not jail. Thanks awfully'.
By:
Reynard
When: 31 Mar 19 15:51
4 people stabbed in the back - headline news ................... 17.4 million people stabbed in the back - media cover up Mischief
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Mar 19 16:14
Someone randomly stabbing 4 people in the back I would think mental illness is 1.01 rather than an 'excuse'
By:
saddo
When: 31 Mar 19 16:17
Needs putting down when they find him.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 16:29
Shop keeper said could hear a lot of Roaring before the Woman was stabbed ..
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 19 16:37
I agree with Tobermory, ANYBODY running amok stabbing complete strangers is mentally ill.
By:
lybertyne
When: 31 Mar 19 16:43
or just píssed off with things.
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 19 16:47
Thoughts with the victims. The stabber shouldn`t see the light of day again.

We all get pissed off at times but 99.999% of us are sane and wouldn`t do such things.
By:
lybertyne
When: 31 Mar 19 16:53
I don't care for anyone except for a select few.  I've never understood this 'humanity bonding' thing.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 17:24
Will probably Find the Perp has a History , Should not be even on the Streets .
By:
detraveller
When: 31 Mar 19 19:30

Mar 31, 2019 -- 4:53PM, lybertyne wrote:


I don't care for anyone except for a select few.

By:
detraveller
When: 31 Mar 19 19:30
ffs lybertine thats the second time today.
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Mar 19 19:31
'2nd man arrested' Confused
By:
Injera
When: 31 Mar 19 19:50
'Mental illness' is a diagnosis established by trained medical personnel.

How any of the Old Bill or media can even think to include this in a statement or report beggars belief. It compromises any court case that follows.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 31 Mar 19 19:50
If that happened in Spain the Guardia Civil would have been there in a couple of minutes and filled him with more holes than a Swiss cheese.
By:
Reynard
When: 31 Mar 19 20:00
tobermory • March 31, 2019 7:31 PM BST
'2nd man arrested'

Manager of local ASDA who failed to ensure all knives were removed from his store Shocked
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 20:13
Shocked
By:
Reynard
When: 31 Mar 19 20:22
Apparently these attacks took place over a 14 hour period , not 4 hours as previously reported .
At which point did the OB decide to get off their lazy backsides and show some sort of presence on the ground ?
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 31 Mar 19 20:35

Mar 31, 2019 -- 8:22PM, Reynard wrote:


Apparently these attacks took place over a 14 hour period , not 4 hours as previously reported .At which point did the OB decide to get off their lazy backsides and show some sort of presence on the ground ?


I live in South East London Reynard, to my knowledge I have not seen a rozzer on the beat for at least 2 years if not longer.

By:
saddo
When: 31 Mar 19 20:42
Would you walk round our streets in a Police uniform armed only with a stick. Many areas are almost no go zones at night.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 31 Mar 19 21:00
Police i'm sure refer to mental illness because the history exists not because they are whimsical.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 21:33
They don't know who he is How can they know his History ??
By:
peckerdunne
When: 31 Mar 19 21:37
I said the history, not his history,and i'm sticking to that...Grin
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 31 Mar 19 21:39
Happy
By:
RLKingPunter
When: 01 Apr 19 00:23
No doubt all the victims will be white but there will be no mention of a racist attack, god help us if it was the other way round though , Racist Stabbings Headlines everywhere...
By:
Reynard
When: 01 Apr 19 01:05
2 people in custody ......................... OB everywhere .

What's the point in flooding the streets with coppers now ? They need to be out there on patrol 24/7 ffs !
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Apr 19 02:33
@RLKingPunter -- No doubt all the victims will be white ...

Police said the victims were from "different backgrounds". That does not preclude them all having different ethnicities from the attacker, but does rather suggest this is not about race.

It was also not about robbery or sex or terrorism so the most likely explanation is mental illness. Another triumph for Care in the Community.
By:
alun2005
When: 01 Apr 19 13:05
Even by Modern Lefty Progressive standards, this latest Edmonton atrocity is something else.

Why did the new Metropolitan Social Worker Police Service automatically rush to judgement that the suspect might have 'Mental Illness' issues, before a single arrest was made, or any suspect questioned? 

What a racket this 'Mental Illness' phenomenon has become. I've lived in 3 different parts of the UK, all for lengthy periods, and don't know ANYONE who goes around stabbing people, less still hide behind the 'Mental Illness" cloak.

Makes a good defence in court though. Thank Allah the judge in the Yorkshire Ripper case back in the 80s wasn't quite so wet behind the ears.
By:
Injera
When: 01 Apr 19 14:16
4 people stabbed over a 14 hour period. Looks like a calculated attack to me.
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Apr 19 15:36
@alun2005 -- Modern Lefty Progressive standards.

Mental illness as a legal defence has been around since Norman times, if not before. That's a thousand years. The modern tests go back to the 1840s when M'Naghten was acquitted of murdering a civil servant while trying to assassinate the Prime Minister. Broadmoor was opened in the 1860s. None of this is a recent phenomenon.
By:
saddo
When: 01 Apr 19 15:43
I don't think the police used to offer it as an excuse before even catching anyone though.
By:
alun2005
When: 01 Apr 19 16:04
None of this is a recent phenomenon.

I'm completely aware of this, but NEVER in our island's history has 'mental illness' been advanced so repeatedly as an excuse BEFORE a suspect is even identified, let alone caught and interviewed.
By:
dambuster
When: 01 Apr 19 16:30
alun2005, What about the other old saying that gets thrashed about a million times a year...
''Lessons will be learned''....in other words, move on, nothing to see here.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 01 Apr 19 16:32
It's more common for the initial speculation to be centred on the perpetrator's faith than his mental wellbeing.
By:
The Management
When: 01 Apr 19 16:40
The most likely solutions are:

a) Massively cut the number of police on the streets.
b) Massively cut the funding for mental health.
c) Privatise the probation service so that the people on the front line are minimum wage agency workers.
d) The perp has a foreign sounding name - so divert attention away from a), b), and c) by blaming everything on immigration.

We should all be able to walk the streets safely again in a couple of days/weeks/months/years/decades*. 

*delete as applicable.
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