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4 People Stabbed  , Random , Mental illness, 6 foot 3 Skinny Black man being sought

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/edmonton-stabbings-urgent-hunt-for-suspect-after-four-people-attacked-at-random-in-just-hours-a4105396.html
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Report saddo March 31, 2019 2:43 PM BST
What were the odds on the colour? Must be 1.01 these days.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 2:46 PM BST
Yes the mention of Mental Illness about 10 on , at least a description has been  released
Report lybertyne March 31, 2019 3:01 PM BST
Mentally ill but can stab 4 people and escape detection.  Or is 'mentally ill' a code for something else?
Report Reynard March 31, 2019 3:02 PM BST
"Issues regarding mental illness" . Does anybody think such random attacks are the act of a sane man ? Why state the obvious ? How many years training required to qualify as a criminal profiler ?
Report Injera March 31, 2019 3:37 PM BST
The use of 'mental illness' as an excuse often before arrest let alone prosecution is STAGGERING!!

It gives the criminal's lawyer a free pass. 'Your Honour, I agree with Plod, my client is unwell so send him to hospital not jail. Thanks awfully'.
Report Reynard March 31, 2019 3:51 PM BST
4 people stabbed in the back - headline news ................... 17.4 million people stabbed in the back - media cover up Mischief
Report tobermory March 31, 2019 4:14 PM BST
Someone randomly stabbing 4 people in the back I would think mental illness is 1.01 rather than an 'excuse'
Report saddo March 31, 2019 4:17 PM BST
Needs putting down when they find him.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 4:29 PM BST
Shop keeper said could hear a lot of Roaring before the Woman was stabbed ..
Report themightymac March 31, 2019 4:37 PM BST
I agree with Tobermory, ANYBODY running amok stabbing complete strangers is mentally ill.
Report lybertyne March 31, 2019 4:43 PM BST
or just píssed off with things.
Report themightymac March 31, 2019 4:47 PM BST
Thoughts with the victims. The stabber shouldn`t see the light of day again.

We all get pissed off at times but 99.999% of us are sane and wouldn`t do such things.
Report lybertyne March 31, 2019 4:53 PM BST
I don't care for anyone except for a select few.  I've never understood this 'humanity bonding' thing.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 5:24 PM BST
Will probably Find the Perp has a History , Should not be even on the Streets .
Report detraveller March 31, 2019 7:30 PM BST

Mar 31, 2019 -- 4:53PM, lybertyne wrote:


I don't care for anyone except for a select few.

Report detraveller March 31, 2019 7:30 PM BST
ffs lybertine thats the second time today.
Report tobermory March 31, 2019 7:31 PM BST
'2nd man arrested' Confused
Report Injera March 31, 2019 7:50 PM BST
'Mental illness' is a diagnosis established by trained medical personnel.

How any of the Old Bill or media can even think to include this in a statement or report beggars belief. It compromises any court case that follows.
Report SlippyBlue March 31, 2019 7:50 PM BST
If that happened in Spain the Guardia Civil would have been there in a couple of minutes and filled him with more holes than a Swiss cheese.
Report Reynard March 31, 2019 8:00 PM BST
tobermory • March 31, 2019 7:31 PM BST
'2nd man arrested'

Manager of local ASDA who failed to ensure all knives were removed from his store Shocked
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 8:13 PM BST
Shocked
Report Reynard March 31, 2019 8:22 PM BST
Apparently these attacks took place over a 14 hour period , not 4 hours as previously reported .
At which point did the OB decide to get off their lazy backsides and show some sort of presence on the ground ?
Report SlippyBlue March 31, 2019 8:35 PM BST

Mar 31, 2019 -- 8:22PM, Reynard wrote:


Apparently these attacks took place over a 14 hour period , not 4 hours as previously reported .At which point did the OB decide to get off their lazy backsides and show some sort of presence on the ground ?


I live in South East London Reynard, to my knowledge I have not seen a rozzer on the beat for at least 2 years if not longer.

Report saddo March 31, 2019 8:42 PM BST
Would you walk round our streets in a Police uniform armed only with a stick. Many areas are almost no go zones at night.
Report peckerdunne March 31, 2019 9:00 PM BST
Police i'm sure refer to mental illness because the history exists not because they are whimsical.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 9:33 PM BST
They don't know who he is How can they know his History ??
Report peckerdunne March 31, 2019 9:37 PM BST
I said the history, not his history,and i'm sticking to that...Grin
Report the old nanny ;-) March 31, 2019 9:39 PM BST
Happy
Report RLKingPunter April 1, 2019 12:23 AM BST
No doubt all the victims will be white but there will be no mention of a racist attack, god help us if it was the other way round though , Racist Stabbings Headlines everywhere...
Report Reynard April 1, 2019 1:05 AM BST
2 people in custody ......................... OB everywhere .

What's the point in flooding the streets with coppers now ? They need to be out there on patrol 24/7 ffs !
Report Ramruma April 1, 2019 2:33 AM BST
@RLKingPunter -- No doubt all the victims will be white ...

Police said the victims were from "different backgrounds". That does not preclude them all having different ethnicities from the attacker, but does rather suggest this is not about race.

It was also not about robbery or sex or terrorism so the most likely explanation is mental illness. Another triumph for Care in the Community.
Report alun2005 April 1, 2019 1:05 PM BST
Even by Modern Lefty Progressive standards, this latest Edmonton atrocity is something else.

Why did the new Metropolitan Social Worker Police Service automatically rush to judgement that the suspect might have 'Mental Illness' issues, before a single arrest was made, or any suspect questioned? 

What a racket this 'Mental Illness' phenomenon has become. I've lived in 3 different parts of the UK, all for lengthy periods, and don't know ANYONE who goes around stabbing people, less still hide behind the 'Mental Illness" cloak.

Makes a good defence in court though. Thank Allah the judge in the Yorkshire Ripper case back in the 80s wasn't quite so wet behind the ears.
Report Injera April 1, 2019 2:16 PM BST
4 people stabbed over a 14 hour period. Looks like a calculated attack to me.
Report Ramruma April 1, 2019 3:36 PM BST
@alun2005 -- Modern Lefty Progressive standards.

Mental illness as a legal defence has been around since Norman times, if not before. That's a thousand years. The modern tests go back to the 1840s when M'Naghten was acquitted of murdering a civil servant while trying to assassinate the Prime Minister. Broadmoor was opened in the 1860s. None of this is a recent phenomenon.
Report saddo April 1, 2019 3:43 PM BST
I don't think the police used to offer it as an excuse before even catching anyone though.
Report alun2005 April 1, 2019 4:04 PM BST
None of this is a recent phenomenon.

I'm completely aware of this, but NEVER in our island's history has 'mental illness' been advanced so repeatedly as an excuse BEFORE a suspect is even identified, let alone caught and interviewed.
Report dambuster April 1, 2019 4:30 PM BST
alun2005, What about the other old saying that gets thrashed about a million times a year...
''Lessons will be learned''....in other words, move on, nothing to see here.
Report mouse muldoon April 1, 2019 4:32 PM BST
It's more common for the initial speculation to be centred on the perpetrator's faith than his mental wellbeing.
Report The Management April 1, 2019 4:40 PM BST
The most likely solutions are:

a) Massively cut the number of police on the streets.
b) Massively cut the funding for mental health.
c) Privatise the probation service so that the people on the front line are minimum wage agency workers.
d) The perp has a foreign sounding name - so divert attention away from a), b), and c) by blaming everything on immigration.

We should all be able to walk the streets safely again in a couple of days/weeks/months/years/decades*. 

*delete as applicable.
Report saddo April 1, 2019 4:43 PM BST
mouse muldoon    01 Apr 19 16:32 
It's more common for the initial speculation to be centred on the perpetrator's faith than his mental wellbeing.





Absolutely not, in the case of the Police. In fact faith is the last thing they want mentioned when violence occurs.
Report mouse muldoon April 1, 2019 4:44 PM BST
It used to be easier when the double-barrelled names were always good guys.
Report mouse muldoon April 1, 2019 4:46 PM BST
I don't read the police statements, I usually just pick up on the speculation when I open these threads.
Report Crisp77 April 1, 2019 5:05 PM BST
Marcus Aurelius spinning in his grave
Report alun2005 April 2, 2019 10:49 AM BST
A fifth stabbing reported fro Edmonton. The victim fighting for his life, but a description of the knife thug emerges. Very similar to the description of person wanted for the first four "random" (i.e. completely organised) stabbings.

It's uncanny how a "mentally ill" knife thug manages to get himself armed, navigates his way around London and has managed to stab individuals in full public view, yet hasn't been apprehended yet, despite his description being circulated widely. Allah alone knows what a sane thug could achieve in the world of violent crime should he desire to.

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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/man-fighting-life-fifth-knife-092046730.html
Report howard April 2, 2019 11:31 AM BST
This latest one was in a street around the corner from Aberdeen Road. Have the police been present in the area 24/7 ? Seems not. Also if the man is still on the loose it might be sensible to get a taxi or have something on your person that would help you. And don't wear your headphones !
Report Reynard April 2, 2019 12:23 PM BST
......................... and counting Shocked
Report Crisp77 April 2, 2019 12:55 PM BST
The comments are worth a read on Aluns link
Report Angoose April 2, 2019 2:35 PM BST
It's like a plot line out of Luther.
Report Ramruma April 2, 2019 3:41 PM BST
And a third man arrested. Are the police just rounding up random, mentally ill, Black men wearing hoodies in the hope one of them coughs?
Report Reynard April 2, 2019 3:55 PM BST
Ramruma • April 2, 2019 3:41 PM BST
And a third man arrested. Are the police just rounding up random, mentally ill, Black men wearing hoodies in the hope one of them coughs?

Three down , quarter of a million to go Mischief
Report saddo April 2, 2019 3:55 PM BST
"Scotland Yard believes the man may have mental health issues and was acting alone in the attacks, which are not thought to be terror-related."




They must have a crystal ball  Crazy
Report Reynard April 2, 2019 5:11 PM BST
"Additional police are now in the area , both uniformed and plain clothes......." .
Apparently to reassure the local public . Visible uniformed officers I understand but what reassurance is there in having 'plain clothed' officers ?
Are people reassured by the thought that anyone not wearing a police uniform is possibly a police officer , therefore reassurance by placebo , or are there in reality no 'plain clothed' police officers at all ?
Report Whisperingdeath April 2, 2019 5:18 PM BST
What a racket this 'Mental Illness' phenomenon has become. I've lived in 3 different parts of the UK, all for lengthy periods, and don't know ANYONE who goes around stabbing people, less still hide behind the 'Mental Illness" cloak.

Makes a good defence in court though. Thank Allah the judge in the Yorkshire Ripper case back in the 80s wasn't quite so wet behind the ears.

Allah alone knows what a sane thug could achieve in the world of violent crime should he desire to.

What has Allah got to do with this?

Do you know what has happened here?

You mention Allah, why?


Any chance you get to stir up anti Islamic hatred you do!

Very sad! Hate does not heal!
Report the old nanny ;-) April 2, 2019 10:47 PM BST
Any Link or Simularity in the Victims , Does not seem to be as Random as stated ?
Report alun2005 April 5, 2019 11:06 PM BST
A man now charged with 5 counts of Attempted Murder, and (surprise surprise) not a word mentioned anywhere about any 'Mentally Ill' considerations that had inexplicably ben predicted by the crystal ball gazers of the Met's Fortune Telling squad.

As we all knew.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6889185/Man-29-charged-five-counts-attempted-murder-stabbing-spree-Edmonton.html
Report Ramruma April 6, 2019 1:01 PM BST
@alun2005 -- "not a word" -- now he has been charged, it is sub judice so the media can't report things that are liable to sway a jury.
Report mouse muldoon April 6, 2019 2:27 PM BST
I'm satisfied that he probably aint the full normal.
Report saddo April 6, 2019 4:05 PM BST
It seems to be the case with a disproportionate amount of our more recent incomers, is it to be expected?
Report Reynard April 6, 2019 6:10 PM BST
It is to be expected and accepted with minimal fuss . The suffering shall continue unabated Plain
Report the old nanny ;-) April 7, 2019 3:57 PM BST
More people Stabbed north London Last Night Including Corbyns manor
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! June 15, 2019 5:09 PM BST
More Cockney murders
Sounds like drug fuelled crazxies out there

Sad
Report the old nanny ;-) June 15, 2019 5:11 PM BST
Khan is in the process of sorting law and order out , meanwhile African people are sending their kids to Africa for safety reasons Plain
Report Reynard June 15, 2019 9:46 PM BST
Which begs the question : What are 'African people' doing here ? Confused
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