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thats like saying that awful creature tebbit could not be a tory because he came from fook all, apart from his fookin bike of course
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If thats the sort of thing you admire well jesus wept the country is truly finished
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anxious you have been lucky to live in the greatest and most beautiful country in the history of the world
Be thankful |
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anxious
28 Mar 19 21:19 Joined: 14 May 15 | Topic/replies: 27,868 | Blogger: anxious's blog capt f please stop embarrassing yourself man , oh the irony |
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lfc i love my country just as much as the so called spiv patriots do
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Now have you taken a look at what happened in Russia after that 1917 revolution
It’s like this , millions of people were sent to the gulags and millions were murdered |
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fair enough anxious , I agree with a lot of your views
But the Labour Party have disgraced themselves with Brexit It’s unbelievable really |
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For all their faults the if it was left to the Tory party we would have left the eu tomorrow
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And that is why eggmans aim was true when he broke an egg on Corbyns head
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lfc no you wrong its descended into farce , her withdrawal would leave our country with no power even though we not have fully left the EU
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its probably worse than actually still being in the EU , at least then we could argue our views , this is the uncomfortable reality for Britain
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anxious we don’t want any power , Britain is sick of having power
It’s too much trouble |
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It’s like this Mays deal gets us out of the EU , the sm , cu , and stops freedom of movement
it respects the referendum , it’s a beautiful thing if May could achieve that |
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What we have now lfc is chaos , this is dangerous for the whole country
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Say a little prayer for chairman May : )
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I spent a career stuck between business leaders (usually short term opportunists) and trade unionists (some of them openly communists) - the only winning strategy was damage limitation, seek out and develop relationships with the (rare) pragmatists on either side.
Most difficult element to the job was staying sober. Would conduct formal meetings with management and try to stay awake through all the posturing and rhetoric, then formal meetings with union leaders (same posturing and rhetoric but opposite agenda). Then informal meeting (in pub) with pragmatic management, followed by informal meeting in pub with pragmatic union leaders, then joint informal meeting in pub. Pragmatists capable of agreeing a pragmatic compromise before each respectively going back to their cohort to claim the victory. Glad I am not still in that line of work, partly because my liver could not cope but mainly because Pragmatism has completely gone out of fashion. Always felt sorry for the real people that we were generally discussing. With a few exceptions on each side they were stuck between two groups more interested in their self-serving ideologies, than doing the right/best thing for either their employees or their members. |
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TM, yes I can see all that.
Way back when I was a union rep and always looked for win win options. Superimposing an ideology on real life situations is akin to a round peg into a square hole. Common sense is usually a better approach. |
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Lfc, why do they call it May’s deal ?
It’s the EU’s deal or is that ultimatum? |
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as member of EU made union member immaterial
need to join up now to safeguard workers rights |
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Is there anyone in Labour's Shadow Cabinet that has any business experience?
Do I take it the answer to this is no? Started going through them and gave up more than halfway through. |
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Lfc, why do they call it May’s deal ? It’s the EU’s deal or is that ultimatum? All this week on Politics Live the Labour party MP panellist have called it Mays deal whilst exonerating themselves and the EU from any blame in the process. |
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Aka, tbf a lot of con mp’s, prob most, do the same.
She scores as a politician as well as she would if she was on strictly come dancing. |
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No doubt some Cons are RC but again its just examples of MPs trying to wash their hands of blame.
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They should throw an egg at her and tell her to Beat It.
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