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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47642298

A new Low Targeting Children an Absolute Miracle no one dead , The chap was Upset by Italian Immigration Laws (according to the BBC)
So decided to try to burn 50 Children to Death
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Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
According to Telegraph ,,,


Police said the suspect had a criminal record, with convictions for sexual molestation and driving while drunk. He obtained Italian citizenship in 2004.

According to Telegraph ,,,

Yep Looks Like a Regular , Just the Type of Chap you would have driving a School Bus ...

Beyond Belief ..
Report Reynard • March 21, 2019 1:27 PM GMT
A new Low Targeting Children an Absolute Miracle no one dead , The chap was Upset by Italian Immigration Laws (according to the BBC)
So decided to try to burn 50 Children to Death

Nothing 'new' about it . Manchester Arena bombing was precisely this tactic . Many other examples throughout Europe and Africa Sad
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:31 PM GMT
Ur right Rey  , Happened yesterday all kept a bit quite behind the News of Burials and Brexit ..

Netherlands , This and Wait for Paris this weekend  The Europe ,we need to be remaining in with plenty
of free Movement and Diversity .
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:42 PM GMT
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/20/bus-full-children-set-alight-angry-driver-retaliation-migrant/

Just incredible they were not all burnt to death  Plain
Report SontaranStratagem • March 21, 2019 1:42 PM GMT
He was off his meds (mental illness) and acted out alone

The bloke in New Zealand wasn't mentally ill, he knew exactly what he was doing as he had it planned down to where he was going to park, if he was mentally ill he wouldn't have got past the first stage without ballsing it up

People need to be able to tell the difference, bloke like the NZ attacker do not fail
Report SontaranStratagem • March 21, 2019 1:42 PM GMT
He had it planned, even down to where he was going to park**
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:45 PM GMT
Will there be full Coverage of the Trauma  Caused to these poor Children on the BBC news this evening , The Kids will never be same Sad
Report Reynard • March 21, 2019 1:48 PM GMT
I saw this report yesterday but simply couldn't be ar5ed to start yet another 'terror attack' thread . Just shows how conditioned I , and possibly many others have become to such atrocities , even where innocent young children are the victims .
And yet today the radio news bulletins are dominated by a few broken windows on places of redica............ 'worship' in the Birmingham area . Described as being treated as 'terror related' it is simply an act of vandalism with anti-islam undertones and cannot be compared to a bus driver torching a bus full of schoolchildren .

On a similar note I currently reside half a dozen doors from a mosque where on Sunday there were two police vehicles (one surveillance) and an additional two officers on foot patrolling in order to provide a visible presence in order to reassure the visitors of their safety .
Confused
Report InsiderTrader • March 21, 2019 1:53 PM GMT
'Italian driver hijacks and torches school bus full of children'

Is the headline

later down in the article..
'The driver, a 47-year-old Italian citizen originally from Senegal, has been arrested.'

Why do they not put this in the headline?
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:56 PM GMT
Shame there were not Such Patrols a few Years back in Areas such as Rotherham , things will only get Worse Rey thats 2 attacks this week the situation will sadly escalate Sad
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 1:57 PM GMT
Full coverage of his Reasons , WTF has it got to do with a Bus full of Kids ??
Report Reynard • March 21, 2019 2:00 PM GMT
Agenda driven media . I'm sick of it Angry
Report saddo • March 21, 2019 3:38 PM GMT
This man was attacking the children of the host country which granted him a home, bewildering really. And I wouldn't have even known about it without reading this forum.

....................
An Italian bus driver of Senegalese descent was arrested on Wednesday after hijacking his own vehicle and setting it on fire, allegedly threatening to kill more than 50 children on board whose hands he had bound.

The 47-year-old man said he was acting in revenge for the thousands of migrants, many of them African, who have drowned in the Mediterranean in recent years while trying to reach Europe from Libya.

“No one will survive,” he said, according to police.

“He shouted 'Stop the deaths at sea, I'll carry out a massacre',” said Marco Palmieri, a police spokesman.

The man, named as Ousseynou Sy, was driving 51 children from their middle school near the city of Cremona to a sporting event when he started making threats, brandishing a knife.

In an ordeal that lasted around 40 minutes, he started driving towards nearby Milan.

He rammed the bus into cars on a busy highway before it came to a stop at a roadblock set up by police.

He then doused it in petrol and set it on fire.

Police smashed the windows of the vehicle to allow the children to escape.

Television footage showed thick black smoke and flames billowing from the bus, which was reduced to a burnt-out hulk.

“It was a miracle, it could have been a massacre,” said Francesco Greco, a prosecutor from Milan. “The carabinieri (police) were exceptional in blocking the bus and getting all the children out. They broke the windows and managed to get all 51 kids out.”

One of the children told reporters that the driver had threatened to pour petrol on them and set them alight.
“He handcuffed us and threatened us. He said that if we moved he would pour out the petrol and set fire to it.

“He kept saying that people in Africa are dying and the fault is Di Maio and Salvini's” – a reference to Luigi Di Maio and Matteo Salvini, the leaders of the two parties that make up the populist coalition.

A 12-year-old boy who was interviewed by Italian television said the driver claimed that three of his children had drowned at sea while trying to reach Italy by boat from North Africa.

“He said he had lost three children, that many children die at sea, so we should die too, by being burned. I was afraid I would die,” the boy said.

Mobile phone footage taken by passing motorists showed children screaming in panic as they ran away from the vehicle.

At least 12 children were taken to hospital for bruises, smoke inhalation or because they were suffering from shock.

Police said the suspect had a criminal record, with convictions for sexual molestation and driving while drunk. He obtained Italian citizenship in 2004.

Mr Salvini, the interior minister and head of the anti-immigration League party, asked why a person with a criminal record was allowed to drive a school bus.

Interior minister officials said they were studying the possibility of revoking the driver’s Italian citizenship.

The driver is likely to face charges of kidnapping, attempted mass murder, causing a fire and resisting arrest.
Report InsiderTrader • March 21, 2019 3:48 PM GMT
Police said the suspect had a criminal record, with convictions for sexual molestation and driving while drunk. He obtained Italian citizenship in 2004.

Mr Salvini, the interior minister and head of the anti-immigration League party, asked why a person with a criminal record was allowed to drive a school bus.


Pathetic. He is the interior minister. He should make sure a person with a criminal record for sexual molestation and drunk driving is not allowed to drive a school bus. It is his responsibility.
Report saddo • March 21, 2019 3:51 PM GMT
Did it not make the 6.00 / 10.00 news on TV?
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
Yet another thread.
People quoting BBC and Telegraph like they are the most trusted sources.
Yet in the same thread criticizing the same media for the way they are reporting it.

This is the story of every event. When will people stop listening to these sources instead of first listening to them and then whining about how they are reporting?
How many more agenda driven filth does the BBC have to feed you, for you to stop consuming it?
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
*much
Report PorcupineorPineapple • March 21, 2019 5:28 PM GMT
To be fair, I learned about it on Italian tv this morning and it's the same story there.
Report peckerdunne • March 21, 2019 5:29 PM GMT
upset was he, glad he wasn't enraged or a little miffed.
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 5:31 PM GMT
Im not doubting the authenticity of the story. Just the fact that BBC gets so much crap on the forum from everyone yet every time I see someone reporting an issue he's got a BBC link alongside it.
Report Injera • March 21, 2019 5:34 PM GMT
The BBC is the UK's national broadcaster funded by a compulsory tax. It's also obliged to adhere to the Charter which stresses independence.

It's no wonder it's quoted and scrutinised.
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 7:13 PM GMT
DE TRAVELLER are you an Idiot I used the BBC because they Hide reporting incidents of this Nature they are not Alone , How these kids are alive is Little more than a Miracle ..

But the Main stream media would rather be Reporting on Some Rsole throwing a Brick through a Mosque window , Churches are Robbed and damaged weekly we don't hear Much about that ...

As for people Doubting the Authenticity you need  Serious Help ,because you are Unwell ,I suggest seeking that help ASAP .
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 7:20 PM GMT
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8689966/italy-bus-fire-senegalese-paedophile-milan-burn-children/

The sun Appear to have been a Bit slow off the Blocks
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 7:29 PM GMT
I think I haven't listened to BBC in 15 years. I found out long time ago that they lie. My doubting their authenticity stems from the response they get on this forum. Almost everyone criticizes them and yet when an event happens its a BBC link I find being shared. That is what perplexes me
Report Just Checking • March 21, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
google puts bbc links very high up the news items and news searches.
Report Injera • March 21, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
BBC =  UK S T A T E   B R O A D C A S T E R.

That's why they get quoted.
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 7:36 PM GMT
I agree their reporting Leaves a Lot to be Desired . TBF I heard it on Radio 5 during the Night which was the Only report I had heard ,just seems very strange why this would not have been Headline news across most media ...

It is a mad sick world we live in Sad
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 8:05 PM GMT
Looks like my post got eaten up and i cant bother typing that again.

People listening to BBC because they are state broadcasters and their links come on top of search results isn't the thing im looking for. People listening to BBC, knowing fully well that BBC follows a particular agenda, and then whining about that agenda, is what I do not understand. For three years now i am reading how BBC reporting caters to a partciular community. Yet people wait for the next headline, just so they can complain about the same thing again.
Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 8:12 PM GMT

Mar 21, 2019 -- 8:53AM, InsiderTrader wrote:


'Italian driver hijacks and torches school bus full of children'Is the headlinelater down in the article..'The driver, a 47-year-old Italian citizen originally from Senegal, has been arrested.'Why do they not put this in the headline?


For instance, this is a typical response. Migrants are often named by BBC as Gunman, Knife attacker, A man, etc, deliberately leaving out his background. If the migrant happens to be a citizen, he's named with his nationality, like the Italian driver above. If a white man does something, his color is mentioned while any other color is deliberately avoided, refering to him as a local, a gang member, etc.

BBC has been doing that since ive been on this forum. People should either not be suprised by that, or not be listening to BBC in the first place, but what's the point of listening and then complaining about the same thing theyve been doing for years?

Which brings me to my earlier question, how bad does the BBC have to be for the people to finally stop listening?

Report detraveller • March 21, 2019 8:14 PM GMT
For someone looking from the outside, like me, it just doesn't make sense that people, year after year, listen to the same source only to complain about them.
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 21, 2019 8:48 PM GMT
One of the children caught up in an attack on a school bus in Italy is being hailed by his classmates for saving everyone on board.
The bus driver allegedly hijacked the vehicle and its 51 schoolchildren near Milan, then set it on fire.
Children interviewed by Italian media said 13-year-old Ramy Shehata hid his mobile phone when the driver confiscated them from other students.
The police were then phoned. "He is our hero", one classmate said.
The driver, named as 47-year-old Ousseynou Sy, allegedly told the children: "No-one will survive."
'Strength to save themselves'
Italy's Ansa news agency reports that Ramy made the call while pretending to pray in Arabic - but was in fact issuing a warning to his father.
His father told Ansa that the family came from Egypt, and Ramy was born in 2005 in Italy - but has never been issued official citizenship documentation.
"My son did his duty, it would be nice if he got Italian citizenship now," he told the news agency. "We would love to stay in this country. When I met him yesterday I hugged him hard."

Thank Fook  the Driver didn't understand Arabic Plain  And I agree it would be nice if the Kid got Italian citizenship..Happy
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