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By:
edy
When: 22 Mar 19 13:21
Hopefully the Tory MP Davies can't block it from being voted on becoming mandatory again next week.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Mar 19 13:56
peckerdunne
22 Mar 19 12:07
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It appears they are having these lessons about relationships. Given that is happening this conversation is whether LGBT should be mentioned or not.

I am not sure any primary school children need sex education lessons!


Not sure how you can separate the first from the second and explain LGBT from a hetro relationship at the same time.

I know i don't want young kids being told in school by some Gay teacher that it is viewed by society as OK for some man to be sticking his dick up another mans arse.

^

It is not about that. It is about relationships. Even if it was (which it isn't) what is the difference between a man and man, a women and women or a man and a women doing the act you describe?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 22 Mar 19 14:12
It should not be taught in Primary School this is too young

The longer we can keep children away from the world of sex, the luckier they are in my opinion.

When they reach puberty is when they are in it, whether they likeit  or not

So teaching is secomdary schools is ok, and necessary.

Muslims have to accept this, if their children are educated in this country
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 22 Mar 19 14:16
In our society, being L b G or T is legal, and will be the choice of some, so it has to touched upon.

Although I still think marriage between men and women is the best.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 22 Mar 19 14:19
OK for some man to be sticking his dick up another mans arse insidetrader

I think that could have put a bit more tastefully myselfLaugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 19 15:11
Although I still think marriage between men and women is the best.


Contentious!

I know a lot of unhappily married peopleLaugh

I think that could have put a bit more tastefully myself


Well I don't think one man putting his dick in another man's mouth is tasteful either...figuratively speaking that is.

Not that I know either. I have never gone to bed with Martha and woken up with Arthur thank God.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Mar 19 15:15
What about the Muffins?
By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 15:18
My favourite pastime.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Mar 19 15:28
Well I don't think one man putting his dick in another man's mouth is tasteful either...figuratively speaking that is.

Is it ok if it is a woman's mouth? Is it ok if its two women?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 19 15:34
Absolutely!

But not in front of the children! They do not need to know while they are children!
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Mar 19 15:36
So it is not LGBT that is the concern. It is children being taught anything about relationships?
By:
nellie1970
When: 22 Mar 19 15:37
how about pegging being an acceptable practice??????
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Mar 19 15:41
Pegging is forbidden during Ramadan.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 19 15:44
Shocked

Not sure I know what pegging is!

I am not concerned about LGBT. I just don't think kids under 11 need to know about sex. If they were taught manners and how to respect people they do not have to know about LGBT, homosexuals, heterosexual, bi sexual or just plain greedy! Rule 1 be nice is all they need to know till they go to big school!

It is a shame more people here weren't taught better mannersWink! Why do you need to know what LGBT is if you can't grasp good manners?
By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 16:00
pegging is a bird taking you up the arris with a strap on. Scared
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Mar 19 16:03
I fail to see the benefits.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Mar 19 16:06
Does anyone know what they actually teach primary school kids on this? I very much doubt it is what the people above are suggesting.
By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 16:10
If I wanted to programme them I would teach them the 'two mums two dads is normal' bit before they know what sex is, then hope the penny drops when it comes to sex education a few years later.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 22 Mar 19 16:12
I'd tell them it should always be one mum, one dad unless your name is Jesus.
By:
edy
When: 22 Mar 19 16:21
Pretty incredible that all of Christianity is based on either

a) Mary and Joseph lying to their parents
b) Mary lying to Joseph about affair(s) of hers and him being stupid enough to believe it.
By:
edy
When: 22 Mar 19 16:22
*her parents
By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 16:31
What we have is a religion versus State situation. The kids are taught at home and religious school that gays are not to be tolerated, conflict is inevitable and will increase. Which will change, our education system or Islam?
By:
edy
When: 22 Mar 19 16:32
Islam obviously. Just like other religions, it will thankfully continue lose potency, with a few hiccups here and there from the ever yesteryears clinging on.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 Mar 19 16:34
Is it religion v state or are the complaints about age?

Are people protesting against secondary schools teaching about LGBT relationships?
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 19 17:28
Sexual intimacy is a precursor to sexual intercourse which may or may not lead to reproduction.

It's the foundation of all life. Cultural marxism seeks ground zero where everything is reinvented. If you say marriage is between a man and a woman you could be done for hate speech!!!

Don't be surprised when bi sexuals want 2 husbands/wives. That will lead to Muslims wanting multiple wives. Then beastiality then incest, then legalised paeodophilia.

It'll never end. Good on the Mulsims for trying to protect a modicum of childhood innocence and natural order.
By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 17:36
Lots of Muslims already have multiple wives. They are protecting the truth of the book on this matter not their kids. The book cannot be wrong, or questioned, yet there are teachers telling their kids that men laying with men is ok.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 Mar 19 17:37
Insider as i said, how can you discuss those different relationship types and not explain the sexual difference.

You can't just tell a 8 yrs old child everybody just loves everybody, that teaches nothing good or true.

So no, these kids are too young to understand and should be left that way till a later age when they have some idea of pro creation, and how some men like a dick shoved up their arse.
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 17:41
people like Injera really are so similar to that which they are despise
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 19 17:44
Explain? I'm happy to see the positives in anyone. I have little time for most strands of Islam but their efforts in protecting young children from exposure to LGBT is welcome imo.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 19 17:45
"Morally we do not accept homosexuality as a valid sexual relationship to have. It's not about being homophobic... that's like saying, if you don't believe in Islam, you're Islamophobic."   What a load of cobblers

Saying if you don't engage in homosexual acts you are homophobic is the same as saying "if you don't believe in Islam, you are islamophobic" 

Saying "Morally we do not accept homosexuality as a valid sexual relationship to have" is the same as saying morally, we don't accept Islam as a valid religion"

Case closed your honour.  Islam is homophobic.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 19 17:46
That said I don't think we should be teaching primary school children about sex
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 19 17:52
Homophobia is a prejudice against the people who are gay. It's not homophobia to challenge or question the lifestyle of the those same people.
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 17:54

Mar 22, 2019 -- 5:44PM, Injera wrote:


Explain? I'm happy to see the positives in anyone. I have little time for most strands of Islam but their efforts in protecting young children from exposure to LGBT is welcome imo.


just need to read the garbage in your last post to see why.

people like you are far more harmful and damaging to LGBT people's way of life in Western countries right now than any group of hateful muslims would be

By:
saddo
When: 22 Mar 19 17:58
people like you are far more harmful and damaging to LGBT people's way of life in Western countries right now than any group of hateful muslims would be




Denial or simply naive?
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 17:58

Mar 22, 2019 -- 4:06PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Does anyone know what they actually teach primary school kids on this? I very much doubt it is what the people above are suggesting.


http://equalitiesplans.blogspot.com/

this looks to be the blog of the person who come up with No Outsiders. nothing out of the ordinary here and no sex crazed panic like some weird people on here are going on about

By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 19 17:58
On the contrary, people 'like me' understand what Islam will do to gays long term as sharia law spreads across the UK.
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 17:59
it's ok, you only want to shame and hide them, pretending they don't exist Happy
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 17:59

Mar 22, 2019 -- 5:58PM, saddo wrote:


people like you are far more harmful and damaging to LGBT people's way of life in Western countries right now than any group of hateful muslims would beDenial or simply naive?


look at America

By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Mar 19 18:00
yep including isis members Laugh
that's the kind of tripe from aaron sensible people have to put up with
By:
aaronh
When: 22 Mar 19 18:03
I know that any sort of nuanced discussion is above you, lfc
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