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Jack Hacksaw
20 Mar 19 12:09
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Clearly this forum is populated by successful people from all walks of life, so...

Bearing in mind disruptive technologies that are likely to make loads of jobs redundant, what career advice would you give to a 13 year old boy.

The person is only averagely academic, is unlikely to be able to do heavy manual work or work requiring fine motor skills, isn't self-motivated, but is of a friendly, sociable and helpful nature.

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By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Mar 19 12:13
Gardening.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Mar 19 12:21
Retail could be an option but is notorious for poor pay at the lower levels.

What about sales?
By:
The Management
When: 20 Mar 19 12:30
Emigrate - research countries that have a balanced economy rather than just a service sector.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 12:30
Gardening might be too heavy.

Outlook for retail isn't great - but it might be an option.   I think sales might require too much self-motivation.

Thanks for the feedback, please keep the ideas coming.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Mar 19 12:34
Is he interested in computers? Maybe something in IT.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Mar 19 12:38
Regarding his self-motivation and academic ability, he's just 13 so could change.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 20 Mar 19 12:39
is of a friendly, sociable and helpful nature

museum/gallery
By:
Angoose
When: 20 Mar 19 12:52
Big data analysis
Cyber security
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Mar 19 13:15
"Retail", given the move to self service checkouts and even "pay as you shop" etc?
"Big data analysis" for someone "only averagely academic"!!!!
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 20 Mar 19 13:16
Dog walker.
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Mar 19 13:17
How about male nurse.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Mar 19 13:21
Office  work for the NHS , that sort of thing
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 20 Mar 19 13:34
I agree with just checking, male nurse
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 20 Mar 19 13:35
bus driver
By:
tictacman1
When: 20 Mar 19 13:36
Catering college ...A world of travel
By:
Crisp77
When: 20 Mar 19 13:37
Blogger
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 20 Mar 19 13:45

Mar 20, 2019 -- 8:35AM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


bus driver


ambulance man
ticket inspector, I don't understand

By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 20 Mar 19 13:46
Thirteen is somewhat young to make any kind of commitment, I would say!

Best to give it a couple or three years to see how he develops.

One piece of advice I would give, is not to be lead by teachers!

I was seriously good at woodwork, and the teacher suggested I should be a "Shopfitting Joiner"!!!! Oh yeah!

My son was good at mathematics and, on advice from his teacher, went on to do a uni course in that subject.

He came out with a 2:1, but wore out the suit I bought him, with twenty six unsuccessful interviews, in the financial sector!

Too many "Hooray Henries" with whom to relate with I'm afraid to say.

The best he achieved was a position with HBOS which he hated, and only strung along with it to get his shares and bonus where, in the meantime
he had set up his own Graphic Design and website business.

Alongside that, he works successfully as a "Contractor" and is always in demand!

Even more interesting to you, perhaps, is the experience of a nephew, who had no aspirations towards anything.

He was bone idle, and dim, and spent his time messing about on his PC and I believe on Betfair!

The pinnacle of his achievement, was standing outside a furniture shop, dressed as a lion, and waving at passing cars!

Fast forward a few years, and he trained, and passed as an HGV driver,bought himself a nice new flat, got married in Gibraltar,
and is now a proud dad....

Now if that is not a result, I don't know what is!
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Mar 19 14:16
One suggestion I would give to identify a skill he is interested in. A skill that he can practice on his own. This could include using some software(Photoshop, video editing, graphic design, writing, virtual assistant etc.) Even gaming is a great career, though you have to be too good to be able to make a living out of it. The thing with these skills is that he wont have to go out looking for jobs. There are enough platforms online to offer your skills from home.

Once he has a skill like that, he wont ever need to work anywhere full time. The next step is to then move to a country where the living costs are low but living standard relatively same. He'll enjoy his life.
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Mar 19 14:19
Some of the skills i mentioned, especially software skills, are easy to learn, if you have some interest. it is only a matter of watching a few youtube videos and then playing around with the software yourself. It will make a kid independant. He can then afford to waste his time and money here like me. The freedom that comes with such skills cannot be compared to any other full time job. Youre just working for the taxman.
By:
mega88
When: 20 Mar 19 16:33
An easy job is one of those people that put the jam inside doughnuts or if he wants something more exciting then a magician.
By:
elise
When: 20 Mar 19 16:45
fluffer .... although he may have to start at the bottom
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 20 Mar 19 16:46
My first thought when I read the opening post was exactly what tictacman1 said, catering college. Be a qualified chef of a high standard and you can work anywhere in the world.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 20 Mar 19 16:48
But you have to spend most of your time cooking.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 16:50
Thanks for the helpful suggestions.

I do feel that putting jam in doughnuts is a profession that is likely to be affected by disruptive technology - if it hasn't already been.
With regard to being a magician, I did buy him a magic set when he was younger, but unfortunately he did not get the hang of it
and believed that the tricks should just 'magic' themselves.

I am not sure whether he will have the aptitude for IT/software line.

I like mouse's line of thinking and possibly making tea at the BBC could be an option.

Unfortunately, Lady, he is expected to make subject choices soon and although I am sure he will choose those subjects he
is likely to be better at, it is always a good to have some idea which subjects may be more useful.

He is certainly interested in food, so catering might be an option.

'Male' nurse is along the lines of my thinking.  There will be an increasing need for healthcare and i think if you are ahead of the game
you can get some qualifications in more desirable areas of the industry.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 16:50
Thanks for the helpful suggestions.

I do feel that putting jam in doughnuts is a profession that is likely to be affected by disruptive technology - if it hasn't already been.
With regard to being a magician, I did buy him a magic set when he was younger, but unfortunately he did not get the hang of it
and believed that the tricks should just 'magic' themselves.

I am not sure whether he will have the aptitude for IT/software line.

I like mouse's line of thinking and possibly making tea at the BBC could be an option.

Unfortunately, Lady, he is expected to make subject choices soon and although I am sure he will choose those subjects he
is likely to be better at, it is always a good to have some idea which subjects may be more useful.

He is certainly interested in food, so catering might be an option.

'Male' nurse is along the lines of my thinking.  There will be an increasing need for healthcare and i think if you are ahead of the game
you can get some qualifications in more desirable areas of the industry.
By:
donny osmond
When: 20 Mar 19 16:54
there are quite a few jobs in customer services with the positions crying out
for decent caring folk to fill them.

hotel management is a decent option, imo, for somebody with skill set in op.

many of the big chains look for kids to train up on management courses, dunno
what qualifications they look for these days, but seem to remember them taking
kids at 16, or 18 with decent exam results and a bit of nouse about them.
By:
themightymac
When: 20 Mar 19 19:19
Asking a bunch of lazy ******** for career advice is not the greatest idea in the first instance. Crazy
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 19:22
I thought ....monkeys and typewriters.....???
By:
jollyswagman
When: 20 Mar 19 19:29
The person is only averagely academic, is unlikely to be able to do heavy manual work or work requiring fine motor skills, isn't self-motivated, but is of a friendly, sociable and helpful nature.

drug dealer would seem like a good fit.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 20 Mar 19 19:36
Postman? I think they earn about £22 grand or so in London, more with overtime I would have thought.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 20 Mar 19 19:38
they have to work 6 days a week though, given he's not self motivated maybe a part time job to begin with?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 20 Mar 19 19:42
nhs will always need people, radiographer or physiotherapy (both need degrees though)
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 19:45
Not any more, think it is 5 days now.  Certainly round here.

Mind you they do get extra income on things such as credit cards etc.

He'd probably need fairly thorough supervision - at least initially.
By:
Just Checking
When: 20 Mar 19 19:47
There have been numerous articles about "jobs about to be replaced by technology" so certainly I'd advise "not one of those".

What about tour guide? Airline steward?
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 19:47
Radiographer seems a cushy number.  A bit like taking photos - which we have all done - but in black and white.

Probably should be looking at below degree level.

Chiropodist?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 20 Mar 19 19:52
nhs jobs website - https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/

find an apprenticeship website - https://www.findapprenticeship.service.gov.uk/apprenticeshipsearch


it seems even chiropody needs a degree Sad
By:
jollyswagman
When: 20 Mar 19 20:01
apprenticeship schemes - https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/career-planning/study-and-training/apprenticeships-traineeships-and-cadet-schemes
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 20 Mar 19 20:16
Thanks, JS
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