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I think marvin hagler would be my choice.Who is yours??
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Benny Lynch
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Sugar Ray Leonard
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I can only think of boxers that were in their pomp in my era and I cannot split Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard.
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ali, pac man, carlos monzon, ?
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Bruce Lee or Chunk Norris.
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Sugar Ray Leonard.....
he competed from 1977 to 1997, winning world titles in five weight divisions; the lineal championship in three weight divisions, as well as the undisputed welterweight title. Leonard was part of "The Fabulous Four", a group of boxers who all fought each other throughout the 1980s, consisting of himself, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler. |
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Hagler
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billy hardy
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What about Rocky Marciano?
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Lennox Lewis, beat every Boxer he ever fought
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I saw the Leonard/Hearns fight live, (Leicester Sq odeon)
Brilliant Leonard, imo, best boxer ever. |
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Are You on drugs
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Katie Taylor
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Mayweather
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Sugar Ray Leonard was my favourite though, pure class.
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Probably rain
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Sugar was sweet indeed
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Mohammed Ali was asked once who was the best he had fought his answer was
Sonny Liston was the bravest Joe Frazier was the toughest Floyd Patterson was the best |
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Duran for me.
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Duran was more a fighter than a boxer from all the footage I've seen, didn't he bow out of one fight saying No Mas because he didn't want any more?
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Roberto Durán
Roberto-Duran-1994 (cropped).png Durán before his 1994 fight with Vinny Pazienza Statistics Real name Roberto Durán Samaniego Nickname(s) Manos de Piedra ("Hands of Stone") El Cholo Rocky Weight(s) Lightweight Welterweight Light middleweight Middleweight Super middleweight Height 5 ft 7 in (170 cm) Reach 66 in (168 cm) Nationality Panamanian Born June 16, 1951 (age 67) El Chorrillo, Panama Stance Orthodox Boxing record Total fights 119 Wins 103 Wins by KO 70 Losses 16 Roberto Durán Samaniego (born June 16, 1951) is a Panamanian former professional boxer who competed from 1968 to 2001. He held world championships in four weight classes: lightweight, welterweight, light middleweight and middleweight, as well as reigns as the undisputed and lineal lightweight champion, and the lineal welterweight champion.[1] He is also the second boxer to have competed over a span of five decades, the first being Jack Johnson. Durán was known as a versatile, technical brawler and pressure fighter, which earned him the nickname of "Manos de Piedra" ("Hands of Stone") for his formidable punching power and excellent defense.[2] |
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Seem to remember his record had far fewer losses until late on in age
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As many on here - I would go for Leonard but I do think the other Sugar Ray deserves an honourable mention
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Leonard had the fastest hands i personally have ever seen. Add to that his concrete chin (sometimes forgotten) & the fact he was winning titles at different weights when some other world greats were about; then you have a boxer who travels the ages as a pugilist supreme
i also agree that the person he was named after was not too far behind him |
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Next Gen.
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After beating Leonard in their first fight, Duran's record stood at 72-1. If he'd retired then, instead of fighting for another 20+ years, he'd have a much better case. The 'no mas' incident and the face-first KO by Hearns are unfortunately what he's possibly most remembered for.
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Another Sugar Ray Leonard fan here.
Also, Roy Jones Jnr at his peak was like lightning. Older fans always seem to go for Sugar Ray Robinson. |
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To stick up for Roberto Duran a little, and I don't know how true it is, but it was known that he liked to completely let himself go and party/lose conditioning massively after a big fight, and Sugar Ray Leonard knew of this so he rushed the rematch thru with the lure of big money.
'No Mas' was a result of Duran not being at his absolute best physically which you had to be beat Leonard, imo |
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roy jones jnr was awesome at his best. world champ from middleweight right up to heavyweight.boxed on miles to long but at his best unbeatable.
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i's all very subjective i suppose. If you spoke to far better boxing experts than myself, there would probably be a staggered consensus for a few champs; & some many of us haven't really heard of
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Someone who didn't get enough credit for whatever reason was Chris Eubank. He was nothing if not durable. Took a lot of punishment and kept coming back.
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theres lots to be said for duran.
most thought leonard would take him first go, and remember being surprised that my mates dad kept backing duran. given that he was quite an expert on boxing punting back then. i think he was getting around 5/2. he reckoned you could always beat hype. plenty boxers went on too long , risking health for another withdrawal from the cash machine of former glories. mike tyson was a fearsome specimen when under the control of d'amato and then early days with rooney, but rather went the way of many having sampled the good life and not having self control. do you rank them over a period of time, over their whole career , or at their peak? probably gives you a few different answers |
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Leonard made the mistake of FIGHTING Duran in the first fight, Leonard BOXED the second and Duran couldn't get close.
Colin Hart the boxing expert always says Sugar Ray Robinson was the best, think even Ali said so, don't really know about that tbh. |
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Chris Eubank had perhaps the hardest punch I've ever seen (pound for pound). His fights with Benn were a tremendous spectacle. But his heart wasn't in it after he crippled Watson.
Tyson was a fearsome opponent in his early years. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41GgTIFc9A
Fell in love with boxing, after watching this fight.  |
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Well my Dad always used to say Joe Louis - the Brown Bomber - id have to go with Ali in his prime but early Tyson was the most destructive, what a fight that would have been !
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I like Duran, he is up there but there were plenty of tough guys around between the wars. I don't like Leonard as I was a Duran and Hearns man. No disputing his pugilistic ability, it is up there with the best but he robbed Hagler imho, got a lucky draw against Hearns and got beat up by Duran who in reality was a 5ft 7 in lightweight and had to fight the bigger men for the money! I can't see a 9st 9lbs Leonard standing up to Duran! Leonard ducked fighters and rematches.
I have heard that Ali could throw a jab as fast or faster than Robinson. He is without compare to me, a deity albeit with feet of clay ( no pun intended! ). Roy Jones? drug cheat doesn't even come into it! Mayweather...who cares! Tyson? Plenty of animals around over the years. I sincerely believe Ali would have out thought him, boxed his ears off and destroyed him. We don't really see much of Ali in his prime 64-67 before they robbed him of his Title. If you have time watch the Cleveland Williams fight. Nothing could come close. He was faster than lightening and electricity! and a beautiful man inside and out. |
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Tyson probably doesn't even make top 10 heavyweights, let alone lb-for-lb.
I reckon that, as a bit of a boxing historian himself, he'd agree with this assessment! |