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Report leazes67 • March 18, 2019 11:03 AM GMT
Utrecht...on a tram.many injured.
Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 11:18 AM GMT
Since the attacker didn't live stream it, you can forget about finding out the truth. Look at how much we know about the second christchurch shooter. And his third accomplice. You'll have to buy whatever the media sells you on this one.
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 11:24 AM GMT
Hence the media just making it about gun laws, detraveller

They wont go near the manifesto, and CNN are resorting to usual bile, "why white men are being radicalised online"

They are totally and utterly wasting their time, they seem to think they are immune to the coming war Crazy
Report leazes67 • March 18, 2019 11:25 AM GMT
One dead.
Report nellie1970 • March 18, 2019 11:32 AM GMT
the comming war????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Oy4OmTo8s
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 11:36 AM GMT
Nellie

I'm not urging it but at some point there's going to be an attack on the system itself

Only a matter of time
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 11:38 AM GMT
One bloke walks into a mosque and shoots it up killing 50?

And you think there's no man out there willing to put it all on the line when it comes to the media?

They are the main agitators of all this, CNN blaming white men for everything today Crazy

You think this is going to end well ?
Report jucel69 • March 18, 2019 11:39 AM GMT
It's been palpable for a long time.
It's the main reason I left the UK over 10 years ago
Report jucel69 • March 18, 2019 11:40 AM GMT

Mar 18, 2019 -- 6:38AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


One bloke walks into a mosque and shoots it up killing 50? And you think there's no man out there willing to put it all on the line when it comes to the media? They are the main agitators of all this, CNN blaming white men for everything today You think this is going to end well ?


Especially when the white men are armed to the teeth

Report nellie1970 • March 18, 2019 11:43 AM GMT
was not having pop at you SS.

sick of the game of thrones trailers showing every minute about the great war and how it is hereLaugh
Report 1st time poster • March 18, 2019 12:11 PM GMT
HEARD that last night only one suspect in new Zealand shooting how did he get to 2 locations without been stopped,challenged
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 12:28 PM GMT
1TP

That's baffled me, maybe NZ just doesn't get that sort of shooting and were caught out who knows
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 12:39 PM GMT
there is also another question that hasn't been publicised; where did the most casualties occur? 1st mosk or 2nd one.
Report dambuster • March 18, 2019 12:50 PM GMT
I'm afraid this is all the fault of the media and liberal governments around europe, it'll only get worse i fear
Report dambuster • March 18, 2019 12:52 PM GMT
They'll be telling us that we can't leave the EU because we all need to stick together next Crazy
Report saddo • March 18, 2019 1:03 PM GMT
I can only assume this is down to Islamics, we'd have heard within minutes if it was done by anyone else.
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:05 PM GMT
some Dutch bloke said he'd heard a mosk had been targetted. I doubt it as most of the Netherlands law enforcement is crouching behind a brick warehouse
Report 1st time poster • March 18, 2019 1:09 PM GMT
so back in new Zealand the pm is saying they got email/video of manifesto  12 mins before 1st shooting ,from there he moved to 2nd location fired of his rounds calmly walked back to his car reloaded ,re entered mosque and still no sign of plod,and she reckons security services coudnt do anymore
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
no politician will ever criticise the emergency services. They are the 1st people they back slap from the mic
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 1:17 PM GMT
Bap

They back slap em because they know they are the only defence if it kicks off
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:17 PM GMT
it must be quiet in Brussels as Mark Stone - Skys political correspondant has turned up in Utrecht
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:18 PM GMT
aye to defend them
Report leazes67 • March 18, 2019 1:22 PM GMT
37 Year old Turk hunted.Mental health issues?
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:23 PM GMT
ok pic revealed; all right wing agenda to the back burner please mr & mrs journo
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:26 PM GMT
they've only gone & named him. Gokman Tanis 37 yr old
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:27 PM GMT
if this was the UK the Me would still be reporting "No description available"
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
*Met
Report alun2005 • March 18, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
It's uncanny how so many people with Pretendy Mental Health Issues manage to get hold of guns, knives and also seem perfectly capable of making their way around city transportation systems. In the old days they were left to do basket-weaving.
Report alun2005 • March 18, 2019 1:32 PM GMT
if this was the UK the Me would still be reporting "No description available"

If it was Germany, he'd have been described as "known locally as Boris Franz Ludwig Steffi Tanis, a promising sports-musician, sadly bullied at school".
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 1:36 PM GMT
in olde olden times the were sent to the bell tower of Notre Dame cathedral & told to swing on Big Mary
Report InsiderTrader • March 18, 2019 2:03 PM GMT
Three dead now.
Report woundedknee • March 18, 2019 2:10 PM GMT
PART AND PARCEL
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 18, 2019 2:25 PM GMT
Was there any roaring going on ? By the Assailant ..
Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 2:27 PM GMT
I have trust issues with people that dont live stream their attacks. I hate to rely on the media or politicians to tell us what happened.
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 18, 2019 2:30 PM GMT
A picture of him has been released which makes sense as he is still on the Run , Strange how they knew who he was so Quickley ...
Report leazes67 • March 18, 2019 2:38 PM GMT
Something about a rape trial earlier this month.
Report Richie_Burnett • March 18, 2019 2:40 PM GMT
Used oyster card
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 2:59 PM GMT
Because they aren't mentally ill, Alun

You can't be mentally ill to carry out these things, they need to be unhinged but of sound mind

They're a psychiatrists wet dream
Report Richie_Burnett • March 18, 2019 3:02 PM GMT
Nature v nurture innit.

Born to kill or radicalised on chit-chat?
Report David Icke • March 18, 2019 4:02 PM GMT
Nothing to see here. Caused by Women/drugs/gambling.
Report mouse muldoon • March 18, 2019 4:03 PM GMT
In that order?
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 4:09 PM GMT
one usually follows the other
Report nellie1970 • March 18, 2019 4:17 PM GMT
wearing red hat and Jussie Smollett tee shirt
Report Baphornet • March 18, 2019 4:22 PM GMT
i can feel nellie breathing fire on my neckGrin
Report David Icke • March 18, 2019 4:54 PM GMT
He's played the Hello snackerbar tactic to muddy the waters. The rozzers, media and politicians are full of sh1t.
Report saddo • March 18, 2019 5:15 PM GMT
https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7646965/4f07e70b/tramschutter_in_eerdere_tijden.html




He's on this vid berating a vox popper for her revealing dress, 8 years ago
Report Whisperingdeath • March 18, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
I speak fluent Dutchie. I am pretty sure he was asking for a tit wank. I would also like to say fantastic gravity defying tits! Bloody marvellous!
Report Whisperingdeath • March 18, 2019 5:20 PM GMT
and if that was a dress maybe she should not have been wearing jeansWhoops
Report mouse muldoon • March 18, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
+1
Report crystalhunt • March 18, 2019 5:26 PM GMT
My son and his wife moved to live in Utrecht on Sat so it's been a worrying afternoon. They are okay but wont rest until this is over. Sad to see so many people find this funny Sad
Report GRANTCKING • March 18, 2019 5:26 PM GMT
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UPDATE: Eyewitnesses say Utrecht terrorist shouted "Allahu Akbar" while fleeing scene of shooting. 3 dead, 5 injured.
Report David Icke • March 18, 2019 5:30 PM GMT
Suspect just arrested, watch him say he knocked his sister-in-law off on the tram drugged up as she was giving him hassle about a gambling debt involving his brother. Collateral damage.
Report Whisperingdeath • March 18, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
Sorry crystal,

Not funny. I haven't seen what is going on. I have been to Utrecht a couple of times, nice place. I am glad your family are ok and hope they recover from the shock and sadness.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • March 18, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
There are still morons out there who rely on Paul Joseph Watson to form their views?
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 18, 2019 5:47 PM GMT
"He was arrested because of his connections with [IS] but released later," the businessman told the BBC.

So not under the Radar at all ,another maniac set free in a peaceful Community
Report David Icke • March 18, 2019 5:55 PM GMT
Crystal I live 5 miles from Utrecht
It has all calmed down now. As I mentioned the suspect has been arrested. No facts confirmed as to the motive. Threat level has been dropped now and people going about their normal business.
Report SontaranStratagem • March 18, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
Always get caught don't they Laugh

Trying to paint the police force as all conquering heroes

When in reality they are totally useless and can't even 1 of those stabbers
Report saddo • March 18, 2019 6:28 PM GMT
Turkey’s state-run Anadolu news agency, quoting relatives of the gunman, said he had fired at a relative on the tram and had then shot at others who tried to help her. Domestic??
Report crystalhunt • March 18, 2019 6:29 PM GMT
David Icke - thanks for that - it wasn't a good start for them even though they are impressed with the place. My granddaughter is following them out in the summer to do her Masters at Utrecht University.
Report Injera • March 18, 2019 6:36 PM GMT
Double edged. The tragedy of today then the fear and unease into the coming days. Very sad.

I wasn't keen going to London after the attacks. Even on trains I keep a watch. Shouldn't be like this..
Report Whisperingdeath • March 18, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
The country needs lerts but I refuse to bow or change my plans for any terrorist trying to intimidate me. This is my country.
Report HGS • March 18, 2019 7:29 PM GMT
Didn't even make the first half of bbc news at 6 which I found staggering.
Report macarony • March 18, 2019 7:43 PM GMT
Where are the British elite lining up to denounce this attack?
Report GRANTCKING • March 18, 2019 8:01 PM GMT
have I missed the sadiq khant presser about 2days events?
Report David Icke • March 18, 2019 8:11 PM GMT
Suspect just arrested, watch him say he knocked his sister-in-law off on the tram drugged up as she was giving him hassle about a gambling debt involving his brother. Collateral damage.

Gambling debt is incorrect, the authorities here have confirmed the suspect is a known drug addict with a long criminal record, including attempted murder with a gun. He is due in court up on a rape charge of his ex who his sister-in-law knew. Witnesses in the tram are saying he shot her several times inside and outside the tram (she was shouting 'I haven't done anything') and people got caught in the crossfire. During the shooting he was shouting allahu akbar.

Interesting to see how the government goes with this.
Report peckerdunne • March 18, 2019 8:16 PM GMT
Gambling debts, rape charges, yeh probably a mussie.
Report the old nanny ;-) • March 18, 2019 8:21 PM GMT
Was on the Radar like so many of previous attackers how Has he got a Gun ?  Why are these people not being rounded up how many of the Attackers are Known ISIS followers nothing is done they are let wander free Sad
Report Reynard • March 18, 2019 8:44 PM GMT
Cos if they round 'em up they gotta put 'em somewhere .
better just to wait for 'em to take a life (or several) and then lock 'em up one at a time Plain
Report peckerdunne • March 18, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
Yeh, can't have them all in the place,would be a danger to society.
Report woundedknee • March 18, 2019 10:32 PM GMT
Nowt about this on News at Ten itv London.... still going on about NZ tho ... fookin joke media
Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 11:12 PM GMT

Mar 18, 2019 -- 5:32PM, woundedknee wrote:


Nowt about this on News at Ten itv London.... still going on about NZ tho ... fookin joke media


The easiest part is to just blame media. But the truth is people are simply not smart enough. If people didn't believe the media, they would have stopped listening long time ago. But everyone still follows them for news. In fact I have a good laugh when I see people quoting BBC here when on a parallel thread the same people are whining about their reporting.

The whole point of the media is to lie(Why would you not when you have the resources to control such a large audience?). People buy some lies. and some they don't. Looks like people have digested everything they were told about this event.

Report woundedknee • March 18, 2019 11:17 PM GMT
fook off kraut
Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 11:17 PM GMT

Mar 18, 2019 -- 12:47PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:


"He was arrested because of his connections with [IS] but released later," the businessman told the BBC.So not under the Radar at all ,another maniac set free in a peaceful Community


This is a perfect example. The old nanny quotes a BBC reporter. The same BBC that gets so much crap on this forum.

But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that the BBC reporter himself quotes a 'local businessman' Laugh

Media is a joke alright. But the people listening aren't that smart either.

Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 11:28 PM GMT

Mar 18, 2019 -- 6:17PM, woundedknee wrote:


fook off kraut


And you yourself were listening to the news. Why? Did you find out that the media were a joke only after listening to the news at ten? I am sure you will never listen to them again.

But the truth is you will, won't you? That's how everyone works. They rant and then they go back to the same media expecting the media to this time tell them the truth. Rinse and Repeat.

Report peckerdunne • March 18, 2019 11:39 PM GMT
Folk off kraut.

Must a creative sort.
Report detraveller • March 18, 2019 11:46 PM GMT
Happy St Patricks day pecker.
Report Whisperingdeath • March 19, 2019 9:08 PM GMT
fook off kraut


up there with fcek off big nose!

Kwality political insight!
Report SontaranStratagem • March 19, 2019 9:22 PM GMT

Mar 18, 2019 -- 6:12PM, detraveller wrote:


Mar 18, 2019 -- 10:32PM, woundedknee wrote:Nowt about this on News at Ten itv London.... still going on about NZ tho ... fookin joke mediaThe easiest part is to just blame media. But the truth is people are simply not smart enough. If people didn't believe the media, they would have stopped listening long time ago. But everyone still follows them for news. In fact I have a good laugh when I see people quoting BBC here when on a parallel thread the same people are whining about their reporting.The whole point of the media is to lie(Why would you not when you have the resources to control such a large audience?). People buy some lies. and some they don't. Looks like people have digested everything they were told about this event.


I don't quote them in support

They are hypocrisy ridden and contradicting beyond belief

One minute they are blaming brexit for job losses the next they are reporting how great the job numbers are Crazy

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