been very impressed with Miss Ardern on her handling of the Christchurch shootings. Also good to see a respectful a press conference with the press being respectful and not looking for a gotcha moment. No doubt some of you on here think she should be at home with her new born baby and not running the country. That is called multitasking some of you guys should try it.
i see the New Zealand thread on the shootings has been taken down
my apologies Foinavon; i can assure you it was just an alphabetical choice
as for Jacindas accent; i have always thought that the Kiwi accent was a posh version of the Aussie one. Similar to the Canuck compared to the Yankee accent. Jacinda proves that theory was wrong
my apologies Foinavon; i can assure you it was just an alphabetical choiceas for Jacindas accent; i have always thought that the Kiwi accent was a posh version of the Aussie one. Similar to the Canuck compared to the Yankee accent. Jacinda proves tha
Ideologically, Ardern describes herself as both a social democrat and a progressive.
Looks suspiciously like the former Argie Leader Cristina de Kirchner:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacinda_Ardernhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristina_Fern%C3%A1ndez_de_KirchnerIdeologically, Ardern describes herself as both a social democrat and a
Be careful what you post... https://twitter.com/BreitbartLondon/status/1107598583640059905 Manchester police arrest 4 for comments about mass shooting in NZ. The country is fkd.
Be careful what you post...https://twitter.com/BreitbartLondon/status/1107598583640059905Manchester police arrest 4 for comments about mass shooting in NZ.The country is fkd.
they can arret as many as they want but provig a crime has been committed is a different matter
Not really! Proving a crime has been committed will probably be quite easy and I hope if they broke the law they get what they deserve. Spreading hate is not good for any of us!
they can arret as many as they want but provig a crime has been committed is a different matterNot really! Proving a crime has been committed will probably be quite easy and I hope if they broke the law they get what they deserve. Spreading hate is n
With a lack of opportunity to spout Islamapohobic bile many have resorted to insulting this fine lady. I don't have a problem with that ashley. This is just a fairly inconsequencial message board. Arden has turned the hate around and New Zealanders have shown the way to combat it. People who oppose this have nothing better to advance so resort to petty name calling. That is good with me. They show their argument for what it is.
True!With a lack of opportunity to spout Islamapohobic bile many have resorted to insulting this fine lady. I don't have a problem with that ashley. This is just a fairly inconsequencial message board. Arden has turned the hate around and New Zealand
I mean theresa may could get out but she's being forced to stay, hence the voice and bags under her eyes, she's stressed to the max
Its so obvious nowadays I mean theresa may could get out but she's being forced to stay, hence the voice and bags under her eyes, she's stressed to the max
Just Checking 18 Mar 19 20:31 Her face is so thin like skin drawn over her skull, I don't like looking at her, reminds of the Karen Carpenter..
You should post more - the internet needs more insightful and deep thinking people like you. The world is truly blessed that you feel able to share your intellect and brilliance. Thank you - looking forward to insight number 26,997.
Just Checking 18 Mar 19 20:31 Her face is so thin like skin drawn over her skull, I don't like looking at her, reminds of the Karen Carpenter..You should post more - the internet needs more insightful and deep thinking people like you. The world
I've yet to meet someone who isn't quietly pleased about Friday's events.
Really? Do you stay in a dark room? Have you been out since Friday?
Are you really please by what happened on Friday lybertyne?
I've yet to meet someone who isn't quietly pleased about Friday's events.Really? Do you stay in a dark room? Have you been out since Friday?Are you really please by what happened on Friday lybertyne?
It was just a strange comment Sontaran. If he really meant it I mean. Being funny is one thing but really believing that is something else and troubling.
It was just a strange comment Sontaran. If he really meant it I mean. Being funny is one thing but really believing that is something else and troubling.
I've already seen comments online mocking the muslim retaliation from yesterday, "you only killed 3, we're 47 in front" come on ffs grow up
People will be pleased and that's the problem I've already seen comments online mocking the muslim retaliation from yesterday, "you only killed 3, we're 47 in front" come on ffs grow up
Whisperingdeath 19 Mar 19 11:56 I've yet to meet someone who isn't quietly pleased about Friday's events.
Really? Do you stay in a dark room? Have you been out since Friday?
Are you really please by what happened on Friday lybertyne?
Probably zionists,there;s a few of them in luton..
Whisperingdeath 19 Mar 19 11:56 I've yet to meet someone who isn't quietly pleased about Friday's events.Really? Do you stay in a dark room? Have you been out since Friday?Are you really please by what happened on Friday lybertyne?Probably zionis
If Islamic leaders and the muslim public reacted in the same high profile way as Western politicians and the western public every time there was a signisficant Islamic terrorist attack then islamaphobia would reduce massively.
If Islamic leaders and the muslim public reacted in the same high profile way as Western politicians and the western public every time there was a signisficant Islamic terrorist attack then islamaphobia would reduce massively.
If Islamic leaders and the muslim public reacted in the same high profile way as Western politicians and the western public The level of education is not comparable among the public in West and elsewhere. Among the politicians, the level of control and influence is not comparable. You cannot expect them to eact in the same way, especially when there are also differences in culture, religion and generally accepted behavior.
If Islamic leaders and the muslim public reacted in the same high profile way as Western politicians and the western publicThe level of education is not comparable among the public in West and elsewhere. Among the politicians, the level of control an
Wow it appears I managed to wind up "the leftie who isn't a leftie" who likes to spout sh1t at great length thinking that this makes it more accurate, at least I achieved something today :)
Wow it appears I managed to wind up "the leftie who isn't a leftie" who likes to spout sh1t at great length thinking that this makes it more accurate, at least I achieved something today :)
got pelters as usual the other day but just confirmed on bbc that theres been a large rise in far right activity in new Zealand last few years, immigration been number one discussion in government, this PM in coalition with party whove been debating anti immigration policies in parl
yet listening to everyone last week you,d think it was butlins on st tropez
got pelters as usual the other day but just confirmed on bbc that theres been a large rise in far right activity in new Zealand last few years, immigration been number one discussion in government, this PM in coalition with party whove been debating
JC, not sure what you dont like in my comment but expecting an illiterate her mentality public to behave the same as the civilised wesern public is not a very intelligent thing to expect. If you have a good reason for expecting that, I am willing to change my mind.
JC, not sure what you dont like in my comment but expecting an illiterate her mentality public to behave the same as the civilised wesern public is not a very intelligent thing to expect. If you have a good reason for expecting that, I am willing to
Anyway, after finding out that NZ has a very lax gun system where once you get a license (v easy to get) you can basically build an arsenal to match the warsaw pact in 1982, yet australia has tight gun laws .. it maybe explains why he moved there to do what he did. Not sure if that's been discussed in the media but it seems a plausible reason (barring any other explanation) why he went that distance to do it.
Anyway, after finding out that NZ has a very lax gun system where once you get a license (v easy to get) you can basically build an arsenal to match the warsaw pact in 1982, yet australia has tight gun laws .. it maybe explains why he moved there to
We have a problem with immigration. Questions need to be asked. The trouble is the dog whistlers play their game and it is a propaganda battle rather than an informed conversation.
1st time poster is right.We have a problem with immigration. Questions need to be asked. The trouble is the dog whistlers play their game and it is a propaganda battle rather than an informed conversation.
detraveller I imagine most of the muslim and religious leaders were either born in the UK or spent most of their life here. Plenty are doctors and significant portions are well educated. They might generally not be so media savvy and there are cultural differences, but it's definitely not too much to expect a reasonable level of public condemnation and sympathy for the victims.
Alternatively, it might not be a lack of education and media savvy, more that such a huge proportion of muslims are supportive of Sharia Law, and that the disdain for non islamists is so strong and so entrenched in Islamic society in general, and that many muslims are so fearful of reprisals if they show public sympathy towards non islamic victims.
detraveller I imagine most of the muslim and religious leaders were either born in the UK or spent most of their life here. Plenty are doctors and significant portions are well educated. They might generally not be so media savvy and there are cult
detraveller I imagine most of the muslim and religious leaders were either born in the UK or spent most of their life here. Plenty are doctors and significant portions are well educated
you mean like Abu Hamza al-Masri?
detraveller I imagine most of the muslim and religious leaders were either born in the UK or spent most of their life here. Plenty are doctors and significant portions are well educatedyou mean like Abu Hamza al-Masri?
He's notorious. I'd hope and expect he's not the blueprint for your typical islamic leader so I wouldn't be talking about people like him.
I'd be confident though that if a christian nutter murdered any muslim in this country in the name of Jesus, that The Archbishop of Canterbury would be on the news speaking about his condemnation and sympathy for the victims family, and that several lesser ranking clergyman would be doing the same at local level.
He's notorious. I'd hope and expect he's not the blueprint for your typical islamic leader so I wouldn't be talking about people like him.I'd be confident though that if a christian nutter murdered any muslim in this country in the name of Jesus, th
Bin Laden was educated at he elite & secular Al-Thager Model School, before going to King Abdulaziz Uni. Educated Mullahs & Imans teach their people the rhetoric they want. It is then up to the 'uneducated' to inerpret their meaning
Bin Laden was educated at he elite & secular Al-Thager Model School, before going to King Abdulaziz Uni. Educated Mullahs & Imans teach their people the rhetoric they want. It is then up to the 'uneducated' to inerpret their meaning
There are no examples of christians going around killing muslims AFAIK. My post was clearly hypothetical.
As for whether Abu Hamza is the blueprint, unless you are a regular muslim worshipper, you are not in a position to know.
There are no examples of christians going around killing muslims AFAIK. My post was clearly hypothetical.As for whether Abu Hamza is the blueprint, unless you are a regular muslim worshipper, you are not in a position to know.
well you could always ask the Met how many of them they have on their " to be watched list" Every police force in the country keep files on them. 'The Hook was in idiot; he was blatant about what he preached & got away with it for years. Unfortunately just like any other banned subject; all that does is drive it underground.
well you could always ask the Met how many of them they have on their " to be watched list" Every police force in the country keep files on them. 'The Hook was in idiot; he was blatant about what he preached & got away with it for years. Unfortunatel
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has called for a global fight to root out racist right-wing ideology following last week's deadly attack on two mosques in Christchurch.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47634132
Good news she's tackling racism. I presume she'll start with the Islamic takeover of white Europe.
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has called for a global fight to root out racist right-wing ideology following last week's deadly attack on two mosques in Christchurch.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47634132Good news she's tackling r
Of course in the eyes of the left the brush with which they paint people "far right" or "fascist" is quite insanely broad, covering everyone from those who support Brexit to anyone who questions uncontrolled immigration or anyone who asks if there is a pattern in murderous acts around the world and a belief system, and often "anyone that disagrees with a leftie"..
Of course in the eyes of the left the brush with which they paint people "far right" or "fascist" is quite insanely broad, covering everyone from those who support Brexit to anyone who questions uncontrolled immigration or anyone who asks if there is
I am sick to death of the deification of her now that Justin Trudeau has lost a bit of his 'right-on' lustre.
The classic establishment reaction to terrorist incidents is either to ignore them (I'm not into 'whatboutery' but merely draw your attention to the estimated 6,000 Christians killed in North Nigeria by the Fulan in the last 3 months) or the (metaphorical) singing of 'Imagine' and lighting candles, talking about solidarity then pack up and go home until the next nutter (from whatever end of political spectrum) decides that their evil goals are best achieved by slaughtering innocents.
Citizens have to abide by the official government response to atrocities as they occur within their own countries. They are managed and choreographed by the prominent services and the media and if opinions do not fall into line they are not allowed to be publicly expressed.
We're never allowed to talk about terror, debate it, confront it. Where our supine political class seeks to shush concern about the ideology of terror, and to cultivate a passive response to violence, no one encourages us to be concerned. and calls for open, robust and, yes, difficult debate.
P.S Her wearing of the Niquab isn't 'cultural appropriation' on this occasion but a sign of respect - oh how easily the 'rules' are changed when it's 'you' writing the story!
I am sick to death of the deification of her now that Justin Trudeau has lost a bit of his 'right-on' lustre. The classic establishment reaction to terrorist incidents is either to ignore them (I'm not into 'whatboutery' but merely draw your attentio
Go back 2 months and head a bit north, and a pile of christians were slaughtered in a church in the phillipines. How much coverage did that get? How many world leaders pontificated at length? Did the BBC go and interview family members to ask how they were affected? Or more likely, did the BBC give it 30 seconds of coverage on the day it happened then go back to covering "diversity" in hollywood.
Go back 2 months and head a bit north, and a pile of christians were slaughtered in a church in the phillipines. How much coverage did that get? How many world leaders pontificated at length? Did the BBC go and interview family members to ask how the
She's moved pretty fast on the NZ gun laws unlike the USA where they seem prepared to live with the mass shootings in schools, concerts etc. Good on her.
She's moved pretty fast on the NZ gun laws unlike the USA where they seem prepared to live with the mass shootings in schools, concerts etc. Good on her.
Although you are correct about the right to bear arms in the Constitution, I don't think it mentions military style assault weapons, extended magazines, bump stocks and the like.
Although you are correct about the right to bear arms in the Constitution, I don't think it mentions military style assault weapons, extended magazines, bump stocks and the like.
You make a good point about the murder of Christians just checking
Unfortunately we are going to hear much more like this over time. Christians are being killed even in Churches in some Muslim countries just as they were slaughtered in a Church in the USA.
What is worse is there are many Hindu Nationalist's in India with the same angry disparaging, disgusting racist views that have been displayed by many on these forum. They are just like many of the people here in their view of not just foreigners but people with a different religion to them. There will be more attacks on innocent people by bigots all over the World.
There are baskets of deplorable X in every country and they all seem to have a lot in common
You make a good point about the murder of Christians just checkingUnfortunately we are going to hear much more like this over time. Christians are being killed even in Churches in some Muslim countries just as they were slaughtered in a Church in the
Of the 50 most dangerous countries in the world to be a Christian, 43 are Muslim.
To be a feminist or gay in those countries would be equally dangerous.
Of the 50 most dangerous countries in the world to be a Christian, 43 are Muslim.To be a feminist or gay in those countries would be equally dangerous.
Murders in the third world don't get mentioned regardless because we don't relate to them in the same way. Religion doesn't come into it.
If you want muslims murdering christians then the Armenian genocide and East Timor genocides top the iceberg. Both shockingly unknown fwiw
Murders in the third world don't get mentioned regardless because we don't relate to them in the same way. Religion doesn't come into it.If you want muslims murdering christians then the Armenian genocide and East Timor genocides top the iceberg. B