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By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 00:58

Mar 16, 2019 -- 6:42PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Kate McCann was in contact with dead bodies as part of her job, prior to her holiday the cavedar dogs detecting the smell, as for her blood, kids bleed and more easily than adults.


Kids bleed more than adults..I can't deny this and it's a great point.

However, seeing as she was only there a week, do you think she managed to climb behind the sofa, drop some blood there, which also splatters the wall and tiles (which were cleaned), she managed to do all this without her parents knowing. Perhaps because her parents are doctors she managed to seal and hide the wound/s from her parents.

But wait...it gets more amazing, a few weeks after she disappears she managed to sneak into the boot of her parents hire car leaving behind blood and cavader and yet nobody spotted her.

I suspect that MI5 will be tapping you up soon.

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 17 Mar 19 01:00
She did not have to touch a dead body, the odour can get into her clothes, and other items of clothing at home, also

Researchers say a decomposing body gives off hundreds of chemicals
This makes it difficult to identity the 'true scent' of a human body
Cadaver dogs often train on pigs, but all animals have a different smell

It’s a pungent odour that might turn your stomach sour and send you running in the other direction, but for some scientists, the scent of death is a much sought after cocktail.

Death will eventually come for all living creatures, but decomposition is far more complicated, and the distinct smell of a human corpse differs from that of a bird, pig, or any other animal.

These dogs can locate human bodies in water, mud, rubble, and other difficult environments – but, it is not always possible to train them using real human samples, and many rely on decomposing pigs to sharpen their nose.



and it's a fact that they have wrongly convicted many people in America on false evidence.

I'm not even saying they are innoncent, I don't know, but the vast majority of people want them to be guilty and cite anything and everything to prove their point losing all sense of rationality.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 01:01

It's my understanding that the British team who did the DNA testing misrepresented the results.

If I have seen the DNA report, I have forgotten it. perhaps you can point me in the right direction?


Why are you making assertions about DNA then if you haven't read the reports?
By:
terry mccann
When: 17 Mar 19 01:04
That last comment Haven is boll0x
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 01:12

Mar 16, 2019 -- 7:00PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


She did not have to touch a dead body, the odour can get into her clothes, and other items of clothing at home, alsoResearchers say a decomposing body gives off hundreds of chemicalsThis makes it difficult to identity the 'true scent' of a human bodyCadaver dogs often train on pigs, but all animals have a different smellIt’s a pungent odour that might turn your stomach sour and send you running in the other direction, but for some scientists, the scent of death is a much sought after cocktail.Death will eventually come for all living creatures, but decomposition is far more complicated, and the distinct smell of a human corpse differs from that of a bird, pig, or any other animal.These dogs can locate human bodies in water, mud, rubble, and other difficult environments – but, it is not always possible to train them using real human samples, and many rely on decomposing pigs to sharpen their nose.and it's a fact that they have wrongly convicted many people in America on false evidence.I'm not even saying they are innoncent, I don't know, but the vast majority of people want them to be guilty and cite anything and everything to prove their point losing all sense of rationality.


10/10 for sticking to it but no I do not see how cadaver (a smell) would transfer to her holiday clothes (assuming she did have contact with corpses).

Look up Martin Grimes (the dog handler of Eddie and Keela) and he will not only tell you that these dogs were trained to detect human blood/corpse only. Their success rate was either 200 (possibly 199) out of 200.

You are a betting man, so what do you make of those odds?

You have to remember that Eddie and Keela work were so highly respected that the FBI would fly them in if in need.

By:
mega88
When: 17 Mar 19 01:15
First of all I'd like to know the thought process that goes into leaving young children alone in a hotel room at night in some far flung place, it is beyond words. Truly shocking.
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 01:15
Scandinavian, I urge you to watch the Bogart series. I would ignore Richard Halls work on the basis he is a conspiracy theorists, and that isn't to everyones taste.

Bogart however, has kindly trawled through all the evidence and presents his work amazingly based on evidence and facts only.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 01:20
Alin are you going to answer my questions?
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 01:22

Mar 16, 2019 -- 7:01PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


It's my understanding that the British team who did the DNA testing misrepresented the results.If I have seen the DNA report, I have forgotten it. perhaps you can point me in the right direction? Why are you making assertions about DNA then if you haven't read the reports?


Are you blind? I've read and watched slot of info on this and can't remember everything. No assertion made I remember that they reported the DNA could belong to 5 people (guess the other 4) the only anomaly being one body is missing.

Im guessing you haven't given me a link or anything because you have no idea where to start..and I can guarantee you that reading the sun won't help you either.

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 17 Mar 19 01:26
Yeah, he has kindly trawled through ALL the evidence and presented his work amazingly based on evidence and facts only............ONLY to disable comments on every single video so that not 1 single person is allowed to ever challenge a single word or shred of evidence he has put forwardLaugh so no thanks, think I'll pass. I've seen most of the loons like hall do the same thing.

And guess what, Richard D Hall has also always done exactly the same thing so you were right there, a true conspiracy nut.

A dog handler is paid to do a job and paid well in such serious crime situations, why would he bite the hand that fed him, nobody has a clue exactly how these dogs were trained and if they were indeed trained to smell pigs flesh as per the italicised quote, he wouldn't say anything but they were trained to smell human flesh only, who knows if something was planted for the dogs to bark.


The truth of the matter is this, until there is a body found, everything else will just be either circumstantial or inconclusive, there is no hard evidence whatsoever.

Btw, yes we know they were bad parents for leaving their kids alone, do people really need to keep using these threads as a platform to pontificate what great parents they are, because that's what you basically doing, look at me, I would never do something like that. They were indeed stupid for doing so, we know we know change the record.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 01:28
I asked you what your position on the DNA was Allin? What is it then? You were the one who mentioned it? You seem to be coming and going with everything you have said today. Is there anything you will actually stand by about this?
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 01:36

Mar 16, 2019 -- 7:26PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Yeah, he has kindly trawled through ALL the evidence and presented his work amazingly based on evidence and facts only............ONLY to disable comments on every single video so that not 1 single person is allowed to ever challenge a single word or shred of evidence he has put forward so no thanks, think I'll pass. I've seen most of the loons like hall do the same thing.And guess what, Richard D Hall has also always done exactly the same thing so you were right there, a true conspiracy nut.A dog handler is paid to do a job and paid well in such serious crime situations, why would he bite the hand that fed him, nobody has a clue exactly how these dogs were trained and if they were indeed trained to smell pigs flesh as per the italicised quote, he wouldn't say anything but they were trained to smell human flesh only, who knows if something was planted for the dogs to bark.The truth of the matter is this, until there is a body found, everything else will just be either circumstantial or inconclusive, there is no hard evidence whatsoever.Btw, yes we know they were bad parents for leaving their kids alone, do people really need to keep using these threads as a platform to pontificate what great parents they are, because that's what you basically doing, look at me, I would never do something like that. They were indeed stupid for doing so, we know we know change the record.


Very poor to say that unless a body is found its inconclusive, imagine if you was in charge...everyone could murder and as long as the body vanishes it's ok.

Who knows if something was planted to make the dogs bark? You say

Wow seriously? Why would anyone do that? Especially when she could be found and then have some explaining to do....And you have the audacity to call Richard Hall and Bogart a nut!!

I would stick to gambling if I was you.

By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 01:37

Mar 16, 2019 -- 7:28PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


I asked you what your position on the DNA was Allin? What is it then? You were the one who mentioned it? You seem to be coming and going with everything you have said today. Is there anything you will actually stand by about this?


I don't understand what your question is.

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 17 Mar 19 01:46
Who exactly gives a monkeys what you think I should stick to Laugh all you've done on this thread is call people names, dismiss them immediately because they disagreed with you  or attempted to mock them by calling them sun readers. That is the debating skills of an infant.

In THIS case, given everything we know and has been said, you are not going to convict the mccanss based upon the fact there is some circumstantial evidence and inconclusive evidence.

Richard D Hall isn't any conspiracy nut, he is a professional conspiracy nut who covers any conspiracy theory that moves on the internet.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 01:47
Have you read the DNA report
By:
tobermory
When: 17 Mar 19 02:16
I haven't seen the Bogart thing, maybe I'll take a look at that. I don't like disabling comments though.

Richard D Hall is indeed a nutter, as is Tony Bennett (the Madeleine Forum guy, not the singer) and it is good for the Mccanns that they can be pointed out as such.

A lot of the things said against the Mccanns I don't think amount to much. But there are so many odd things apart from what is mentioned on this thread.

Why did they both delete their call history before handing their phones in ?
Why do they not actually go looking for Madeleine when, by their own account, she couldn't have been gone more than 30 minutes and possibly just 2 minutes ?
Why - while they could have been searching for her -were they instead phoning relatives telling them to call Sky News and say a girl has been abducted ? How are people sat on sofas in the UK going to help with finding a child abducted hours ago in Portugal ?
Why 'they've taken her' when Kate knows the patio doors were open and Madeleine may have got out by herself ?
Why would the kidnapper open the window from the inside when he had a perfectly serviceable set of open patio doors to exit through ?
Why did Gerry not answer whether or not he knew Robert Murat. A simple yes or no is easy, or maybe a 'no comment'. Instead he makes the point that people in custody may not be guilty.
Why do they only have 5 photos of Madeleine from 6 days of holidaying with her ? (3 of which were taken within hours of arrival)

Theres an awful lot more to ask....
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 02:23
What exactly are you suggesting Toby?

Because they they may or may not answer a question about their phone history they may have  killed their child?
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 02:33

Mar 16, 2019 -- 8:23PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


What exactly are you suggesting Toby?Because they they may or may not answer a question about their phone history they may have  killed their child?


This is why you need to arm yourself with as many facts as you can, rather than trying to base the case on individual questions, build the bigger picture.

Tober, I'm not actually bothered about him turning off the comments. In fact he was allowing comments on each video, only to disable it after a couple of weeks.

Either way, all he does is go though the evidence and statements, for those of us who can't go through the whole 30k + pages.

Scandinavian... no offence but I'm not really bothered how you feel, as Terry McCann has previously pointed out..you talk alot of bollox, and clutch at straws. Sorry if you feel that being called a sun reader is an insult, but it appears to be true.

By:
tobermory
When: 17 Mar 19 02:36
It appears they had something to hide.

Why would any person be thinking of deleting their call history when their daughter has just been abducted ? Here two people whose daughter has been abducted both decide they'd better delete the call history.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 02:36
Again Allin you have not addresed any point made.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 02:42
It appears they had something to hide.

Why would any person be thinking of deleting their call history when their daughter has just bee
n abducted ? Here two people whose daughter has been abducted both decide they'd better delete the call history.



I would presume bad parents often delete their call history if it would result in them looking like not bad parents. If I was a bad parent I'd like to hide that.
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 17 Mar 19 03:10
terry mccann
16 Mar 19 23:04

Richard T.Hall"s Documentary explains Den

Laugh

Same guy who is selling Madeleine dvd holders for £7.50 to lemons like you.
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 03:13
Shrewd, I feel I've tried to respond to your point...whatever it is. Maybe ask it in a simple way and I'll try my best.
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 17 Mar 19 03:18
https://www.richplanet.net/store/merchandise/DF020

Some people try to make a profit out of dead kids, some don't.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:19
HAVEN'T READ ALL THIS, HAVE THEY FOUND THE POOR LASS YET?
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 17 Mar 19 03:20
You need to buy a dvd holder to find out.
By:
tobermory
When: 17 Mar 19 03:21
I would presume bad parents often delete their call history if it would result in them looking like not bad parents. If I was a bad parent I'd like to hide that.

Why would a record of which numbers they had called and received calls from make them look like bad parents
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:23
I've been trying to be a bad parent for 20 years.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 03:24
Shrewd, I feel I've tried to respond to your point...whatever it is. Maybe ask it in a simple way and I'll try my best.

So you haven't read the DNA report? Yes or no?
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:27
Anyway, good to see we worked out it was cadavers not cavaders.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Mar 19 03:28
I would presume bad parents often delete their call history if it would result in them looking like not bad parents. If I was a bad parent I'd like to hide that.

Why would a record of which numbers they had called and received calls from make them look like bad parents

Because if their Kids had died and they deleted their call history it might look ****g stupid. That seems to be what you were trying to say as well Toby?
By:
thegiggilo
When: 17 Mar 19 03:50
Tommy said it was the muslims or jeremy corbyn..
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:53
Tommy will do anything for another 365 account.
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 03:55

Mar 16, 2019 -- 9:24PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


Shrewd, I feel I've tried to respond to your point...whatever it is. Maybe ask it in a simple way and I'll try my best. So you haven't read the DNA report? Yes or no?


I may have, but I couldn't quote it. Didn't I answer this earlier? Asking you to point me in the right direction.

By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:57
>>>>>
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 03:58
keep 2 chevrons apart

>  >  >  >  >
By:
thegiggilo
When: 17 Mar 19 03:58
Might give him a call,he must be doing loads in on achne dogs,his expenses form to the middle easr forum must be getting a little suspect an ounce of bugle and 10grand for achne dogs..
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 17 Mar 19 04:00
He's doing well but thinking he might sack Sirs Hugh & Tom off the payroll to concentrate on his own selections.
By:
AllinR1
When: 17 Mar 19 04:02

Mar 16, 2019 -- 6:35PM, AllinR1 wrote:


Mar 16, 2019 -- 10:59PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:Yes that is correct Terry, and if this happened in the USA, the blood would have been classed as a match with Madeleine. Às they require less markers to be matched Have you read the dna report?It's my understanding that the British team who did the DNA testing misrepresented the results.If I have seen the DNA report, I have forgotten it. perhaps you can point me in the right direction?


I replied to this ages ago..and all you do is repeat yourself.

are you another Lcfc?

By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 17 Mar 19 04:04
What about SIR_Bond and Sir Birchy?
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