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I had some hopes of this when I heard the parents were boycotting it, but it seems there is going to be in depth analysis of 'child kidnapping to order gangs' and similar Easter Bunny level abduction scenarios Sad

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By:
Ramruma
When: 15 Mar 19 09:20
It seems a bit pointless at best. I expect that if the Netflix team had found Maddie, or even any credible evidence linking anyone at all to her disappearance, they'd have announced it already. Instead it will be a Wikipedia page in video form.
By:
terry mccann
When: 15 Mar 19 11:12
And they always tell the truth!
By:
Injera
When: 16 Mar 19 13:44
As is well known, on her lawyer's advice, Kate refused to answer 48 questions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6816327/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-didnt-answer-disappearance-daughter-Madeleine.html
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 16 Mar 19 13:49
The only parties not to lie in this whole sordid story were  the dogs .. They knew.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 16 Mar 19 13:50
Although I feel sure some will try to defend that evidence which seems to have been completely ignored
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 13:55
I would usually be very interested in a series/documentary on Maddy. but this series sounds pointless and pro-McCanns.

James Bogart shares his views on the Netflix series, and confirmed that I will not be watching:

https://youtu.be/3Vfkloq7vgI

Besides he has already solved the case and I just wish someone had the balls to televise it!

I noticed the Sun is still stating that the McCanns have been cleared of being involved. How are they allowed to do this when the Portuguese Supreme court confirmed that they HAVE NOT been cleared.
By:
doridoru
When: 16 Mar 19 15:18
GUILTY AS SIN, TERRIBLE DOCUMENTARY
By:
macarony
When: 16 Mar 19 15:49
What is the strange obsession with this case when so many others go by un noticed?
By:
doridoru
When: 16 Mar 19 16:08
THE OBV GUILT
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 16:31

Mar 16, 2019 -- 3:49PM, macarony wrote:


What is the strange obsession with this case when so many others go by un noticed?


I think it's mainly to do with the fact that there is so much BS that has been told, the fact that the government and media are willing and able to help the parents cover up whatever happened to Maddy, at all and any cost, the fact that NHS professionals can cause the death of their daughter, neglect their children and not only be able to deny it despite the evidence..but to be given victim status.

And on top of it all they raise millions from the public, using sympathy claiming it's use was to find Maddy, when the reality is they were taking all this money to prevent the very people who donated from finding out what really happened.

By:
macarony
When: 16 Mar 19 16:40
Fair enough when you put it like that you have just highlighted the some of the issues with our sicj society
By:
Just Checking
When: 16 Mar 19 17:55
Tin foil truthers gravitate to conspiracy like flies to sh1t, how unexpected.
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Mar 19 18:17
In any case or controversy I just like to follow the evidence.

Here we have zero evidence of any abduction, and a very long list of unusual words and actions from the people claiming it was an abduction.

And an £11M and counting police investigation that is only allowed to 'look for the abductor', that was ordered by the government and The Sun.
By:
Injera
When: 16 Mar 19 18:20
Hardly surprising when MI5 were on the scene within 48 hours, Clarence Mitchell is their press officer and Gordon Brown's on the blower that week!!
By:
A_T
When: 16 Mar 19 18:23
Not sure why the McCanns didn't want anything to do with this I suspect they fell out with Netflix over money.
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 18:30

Mar 16, 2019 -- 6:23PM, A_T wrote:


Not sure why the McCanns didn't want anything to do with this I suspect they fell out with Netflix over money.


Probably for the same reasons that they refused to cooperate with the Portuguese Police, and the reason they refused to do a reconstruction. How could you get away with it when everyone's story contradicts each other? The McCanns know very well that these things would help find Maddy (if she was alive).

The only conspiracy theory is that Maddy was abducted, and as much as I appreciate Richard Halls work, Bogart has gone through all the evidence and more.

By:
Crisp77
When: 16 Mar 19 18:32
What the parents did to that poor girl was a disgrace.... dressing her in an Everton shirt. Sad
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Mar 19 18:34
I expect they are unhappy with this because they have grown accustomed to entirely biased coverage, where 100% of the discussion is 'who was the abductor'. The Crimewatch 2013 is the gold standard for the Mccanns.

As this thing is 8hrs long i expect 45 minutes or so is given over to the evidence against them, though likely with talking heads explaining it was all a big mistake by 'Bungling Portuguese Cops'.
By:
Injera
When: 16 Mar 19 18:39
Kate and Gerry didn't look for their daughter on the night of her disappearance. They stayed in the hotel complex.

Kate's first words to the 'Tapas 7' were 'they've taken her!'

99% of parents with missing kids would surely say 'she's gone' or 'I can't find her'.
By:
terry mccann
When: 16 Mar 19 18:40
So why are the parents being protected by Government/police? Btw the Irish family on holiday who said that they say Mr. McCann holding a lifeless child of about 3yrs old 9.30 that fateful evening didn't retract their statement as the BBC said,they still stand by that.
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 18:53
Yes Terry, the BBC made it up...and episode 13 or 14 of Bogart explores the reasons for protection.

It's just pathetic that this is still going on.

Injera...not just that (there is so much BS that has been exposed), but Kate also claimed the window was open (convenient narrative) yet in their statements none of the Tapas 7 mentioned the window was open. Perhaps Kate was cold, and decided to close it?

None of the Tapas 7 knew of Gerry's whereabouts in the aftermath (according to their statements), he was neither outside searching with the men, nor was he inside the flat. He just mysteriously vanished. At the same time there was the Smith sighting.
By:
doridoru
When: 16 Mar 19 19:14
Having watched YouTube clips of Gerry Mccan over the years, the guild is 100% there, laughing and smiling in one clip. Saville got away with it for 40 years plus and in the public eye, I guess its easy with the right connections.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 16 Mar 19 20:52
Ive been asleep for 5 yrs,i thought this was a case of very bad parenting.

What are you guys suggesting, precisely.
By:
Reynard
When: 16 Mar 19 20:56
The only saving grace is that Kate McCann wears the mask of a woman who is carrying the guilt with her til her dying day .
By:
maleuk01.
When: 16 Mar 19 21:26
their stories dont add up

their odd behaviour doesnt add up

they hardly co operated with the police immediately after

just hope 1 day the truth comes out
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 16 Mar 19 21:29
How can the truth come out now what's got to happen?
By:
maleuk01.
When: 16 Mar 19 21:33
no idea

maybe 1 of the tapas crew knows more than they are letting on, find the body (it will be by accident if they do.
Maybe Kate breaks down and tells the truth.

i doubt the police on either side of the water will uncover anything.
By:
1st time poster
When: 16 Mar 19 21:33
got pelters at the time for saying it, and don't no whether is was a police/bbc ruise,or why Gerry if he had any say because he was actually in the studio, let it be aired
but on that crimeweatch the reconstruction of the smith sighting,the actor playing the part of carrying the child towards the beech was a 90% plus ringer for Gerry, I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw it
By:
1st time poster
When: 16 Mar 19 21:36
lfc will be along shortly to post 20 times that Gerry must be innocent because a guilty man  couldn't say what Gerry said,LaughLaughLaugh
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 21:55

Mar 16, 2019 -- 9:33PM, maleuk01. wrote:


no ideamaybe 1 of the tapas crew knows more than they are letting on, find the body (it will be by accident if they do.Maybe Kate breaks down and tells the truth. i doubt the police on either side of the water will uncover anything.


Do you really think anyone would allow Kate or anyone else to now change the narrative, and have a platform to share the fact that the government, media etc. Have all played a part in this? How could they justify the millions raised/spent, whilst having to explain why the McCanns were given such an easy time.

Many years have passed now, the hardest parts are over and they must now be used to their storytelling.

Just like Sir Jimmy and Sir Clement..we will have to wait for them to pass before the case is 'solved'.

Smith said he is 80-90% sure the man he saw was Gerry...yet this piece of evidence gets pushed aside..along with the rest.

A businessman from South Africa used ground penetration equipment in Robert Murat's garden, some time after the police 'searched' the premises and found what appears to resemble a child's body buried there. It may be a false alarm, but you have to ask why this has been ignored.

Due to politics, the Portuguese police have shelved the case, and clearly the British have no interest in solving it.

By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 16 Mar 19 22:05
Tin foil truthers gravitate to conspiracy like flies to sh1t, how unexpected.

Very true. I don't see how anyone can come to any concrete conclusion other than ongoing investigations are a complete waste of money and that the McCanns are very bad parents without getting their knowledge from comments on youtube videos by nutters.
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 22:16

Mar 16, 2019 -- 10:05PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


Tin foil truthers gravitate to conspiracy like flies to sh1t, how unexpected. Very true. I don't see how anyone can come to any concrete conclusion other than ongoing investigations are a complete waste of money and that the McCanns are very bad parents without getting their knowledge from comments on youtube videos by nutters.


The stupidity and ignorance of your comment aside, what ongoing investigation are you talking about?

The Portuguese police have shelved the investigation, and they are the only ones who can prosecute.

I think the fact that you think there is an ongoing investigation shows your naivety and ignorance. The sun is published for people like you.

By:
darren_discombobulates_sports
When: 16 Mar 19 22:21
Scotland Yard have just been given their umpeenth request for more money to carry on the investigation in Portugal.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 16 Mar 19 22:23
The continued ongoing investigations by Scotland Yard several years after is clearly what I am referring to.

I will add a link for you since you don't seem particularly clued up. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-cops-ask-home-office-for-more-money-to-continue-search-for-missing-child-a4080746.html.

Maybe you could elaborate how my comments are stupid and ignorant.
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 22:54

Mar 16, 2019 -- 10:23PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


The continued ongoing investigations by Scotland Yard several years after is clearly what I am referring to. I will add a link for you since you don't seem particularly clued up. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-cops-ask-home-office-for-more-money-to-continue-search-for-missing-child-a4080746.html.Maybe you could elaborate how my comments are stupid and ignorant.


If you think this is a legitimate investigation, which has taken years, cost millions and the only ”new" piece of information they have uncovered is that 'Tannerman’ was in fact Dr Totman (the Portuguese Police had already ruled him out from the start) then you are clearly wrong.

Scotland Yard pre-eliminated any investigation into the prime and only suspects they have , ignoring all of those facts an evidence. There are contradicting statements made by the Tapas 7 which has been ignored.

So in all these years, all this money spent, there is no evidence of a break in, no new leads whatsoever! None!, No suspects, and you want to believe this is a legitimate investigation

You are stupid and ignorant because you see what the Sun tells you and believe it.

They do not carry out these kinds of excersies for just any missing child, so why carry it on, when after so much time and money they have discovered nothing. This. "investigation" is simply to carry on the charade until it no longer in the public's mind...so I wouldn't expect this funding to be ended soon.

Perhaps you should do a little research before sharing your views. You can access the police files online, and read the evidence and you can watch Bogart (who is anything but a nutcase)

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 16 Mar 19 23:26
another madeleine mccann thread Crazy

why do some people insist on calling her MADDY, why would you shorten the name as if you know her, it's a bit odd.

tober every thread on this story you always say the same thing about there being no evidence of an abduction - but never mention the fact that every tom, d ick and harry trampled all over that property when they first arrived instead of sealing it off properly and carrying out the correct forensics procedures, given the fact it was a rented apartment it would be easy as anything for any previous tenant to gain access with a cut key, also strange how you give off the impression that no abduction evidence is a world first, many people have been abducted with evidence.

also, the guy in that youtube video posted above james bogart, you have to laugh, the way he seems so angry and upset about the Portuguese Reporter women having the temerity to change her mind on the McCanns, he then proeceeds to discredit her saying she was never a serious journalist and she is a JUDASLaugh "I had a notion about her some time ago, I suspected her" - course you did sunshine, of course you did, just because she no longer helps you and your narrative anymore, and what was that lame bullshit about a scot defending a scot just because he was a scot, that clip is just as wishy washy as the documentary, another one on the distastful gravy train, how much has he made from his youtube videos I wonder, it's typical of most people, they believe what they want to believe, get their news and info from where they want to get it from.
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 23:39
I disagree with you Scandinavian  Have you watched Bogart's series? First of all it's not monetised, secondly if you watch his series he will take you step by step through the evidence and contradictions, so it doesn't go over your head.

Tober is correct in what he says, and I invite you to provide evidence to the contrary?

The police may have been about late to corner off the scene, however this wouldn't have severely   impacted the investigation, and the Police correctly chose to focus on the McCans until the British Elite joined in.

As for the journalist, he was rightly making a comment about her, but her opinion in no way affects the investigation or anything else..so that's pointless to comment on.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 16 Mar 19 23:40
If you think this is a legitimate investigation, which has taken years, cost millions and the only ”new" piece of information they have uncovered is that 'Tannerman’ was in fact Dr Totman (the Portuguese Police had already ruled him out from the start) then you are clearly wrong.

Scotland Yard pre-eliminated any investigation into the prime and only suspects they have , ignoring all of those facts an evidence. There are contradicting statements made by the Tapas 7 which has been ignored.

So in all these years, all this money spent, there is no evidence of a break in, no new leads whatsoever! None!, No suspects, and you want to believe this is a legitimate investigation

You are stupid and ignorant because you see what the Sun tells you and believe it.

They do not carry out these kinds of excersies for just any missing child, so why carry it on, when after so much time and money they have discovered nothing. This. "investigation" is simply to carry on the charade until it no longer in the public's mind...so I wouldn't expect this funding to be ended soon.

Perhaps you should do a little research before sharing your views. You can access the police files online, and read the evidence and you can watch Bogart (who is anything but a nutcase)


I'm not even sure what you are saying Allinr1.

As I understand it I have said the investigation was a complete waste of money.

You have said to me their is no Investigation in to Madeliene Mccann that is ongoing.

I have responded with saying the investigation by Scotland Yard is the one I was referring to.

You have then said if I think this is a legitemate inevestition then I must be a sun reader etc. abuse, abuse.

I already told you this investigation was a waste of money in my initial post. I'm not sure what point you are trying to get across to me by saying things like:

So in all these years, all this money spent, there is no evidence of a break in, no new leads whatsoever! None!, No suspects, and you want to believe this is a legitimate investigation
By:
AllinR1
When: 16 Mar 19 23:40
Problem without society is the likes of Scandinavian, shrewed dude and LCFC will read the sun and just take its stories to face value.
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