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The newborn son of Shamima Begum has died in Syria.
The baby, Jarrah, who was less than three weeks old, was rushed to a local hospital with breathing difficulties but could not be saved.
Tasnime Akunjee, the Begum family’s lawyer, yesterday cited “strong but unconfirmed reports” that the baby had died and after several hours of conflicting reports, the Syrian Defence Forces, a Kurdish-led alliance, eventually confirmed his death.
The development is likely to cause further political fallout following fierce debate about Miss Begum’s status and the rights of her baby.
The 19-year-old has begged to be allowed to return home for her son’s own safety and wellbeing.
The baby, Jarrah, who was less than three weeks old, was rushed to a local hospital with breathing difficulties but could not be saved.
Tasnime Akunjee, the Begum family’s lawyer, yesterday cited “strong but unconfirmed reports” that the baby had died and after several hours of conflicting reports, the Syrian Defence Forces, a Kurdish-led alliance, eventually confirmed his death.
The development is likely to cause further political fallout following fierce debate about Miss Begum’s status and the rights of her baby.
The 19-year-old has begged to be allowed to return home for her son’s own safety and wellbeing.
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What a world we live in.
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3 children now, something don't smell right.
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I don't think that she even gave birth to that so called 3rd baby.
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Call me sinicle, but I thought that as well EMR
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What about the so called first 2 babies?
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Agree, it all looks staged with a narrative.....
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the blame game will start now
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3 babies dead does not look good, that must have lost her quite a bit of sympathy
Leave her where she is |
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mother of the year award
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Be some sore heads down the Home Office this morning after ordering the mobile disco at short notice
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Diane Abbot has accused Sadiq Javid of failing the dead baby...
never heard her say anything before this (mysterious) baby died.. Shes had a traumatic week our Diane, first of all she was insulted by Rudd calling her Coloured, now this.!! |
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I guess its about time the politicians milked this further to keep the public busy. Abbot has every right to play politics over it.
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Surely the baby wouldn't have survived a flight anyway?
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Irrelevant to the issue
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There are consequences for our actions
She chose to go to a war zone and support terrorists, she chose to have a child while there We are not here to bend over backwards at the whim of those who spit in our face |
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As I have said before, NONE of that is relevant to her right to come back. That is a purely legal matter.
Sajid played it perfectly knowing he was doing something in line with public sentiment, so its legality will not be questioned. Even if it was questioned, he still would come out victorious by trying to do something that was the popular decision at the time. The public, as always, is p1ssed at the issue and thinks her actions determine her right to come back, when they don't. That she fought for IS is not relevant to the issue. It is only relevant to winning or stirring up public sentiment, nothing more. And that is exactly what happens everytime a news item appears. People go on about what she did. The politicians do their part and you have the perfect issue that you can milk for a considerable period of time. What was the conclusion the last time this issue was all over the media? Nothing. What will happen now that her baby has died and the politicians blame Sajid for it? Nothing. It will be milked and milked and milked till something else comes along... THe media and the politicians have been doing this at least since I started following them. And the public bites on the bait every single time. |
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Politicians doing something in line with the wants of the public?
Whatever next? I couldn’t careless what comes of the young woman, since it was neither my choice for war, nor would my opinion be listened to about the outcome of whether she would return. Just the fact she showed no contrition and has to deal with her actions resonates with me. |
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15-year-old girls groomed for sex with Muslims up north: outrage.
15-year-old girls groomed for sex with Muslims in Syria killing other Muslims for ISIL: it's their own fault. |
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my point is, you've all been ranting about something that is completely irrelevant to the issue of a british citizen's right to come back to the country.
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sajid cancelling her passport was a popular decision at the time. Or are you saying it wasn't?
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In many peoples' eyes it is actually the reverse of that Ramruma.
Both types of grooming are just as bad in my view. This child was groomed just after her mother died of cancer. |
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As I’ve said, the concept of the will of the people ever actually having any tangible effect on decisions made in parliament are so alien that it’s pointless getting into the argument of whether it was or wasn’t lawful. The idea that something ‘unlawful’ might have occurred while doing something most would agree with isn’t something I’d consider to be negative. Legal disputes are forever intertwined with technical shenanigans which any moral person wouldn’t recognise....let them argue over it wearing wigs and fleece the public out of more money for the ‘honour’. |
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dusty, you're right to be cynical but you're aiming at the wrong place entirely.
If you think Javid is simply doing the right thing and not simply doing something he knows won't come to pass, but wins him support among voters and furthers his chances of becoming PM then you're wrong. You're being played like a cheap fiddle. |
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Thats very presumptious of you PP
Im not buying into any ideology or politic, Im saying this is karma and the direct version of it. Hand wringing for years, all of which are spent the the p iss being taken in contrast to this that is a sledgehammer justice. And on the consciences of the baby's terrorist parents...and those sympathisers it shall remain, not on mine. |
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Sorry dusty, I get that. Just pointing out that the idea that politicians falling in line with the will of the people is anything but a cynical attempt to grab some popularity is misguided. This is just politics.
The law is long term and not decided by what the public currently think is fashionable and long may it stay that way. |
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its not really karma for the three kids is it?
of course there will be some conspiracy on utube soon saying the baby did not die but is being fostered somewhere in the uk. maybe turning up as usa president in 30 odd years time. |
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Society is losing, if it hasn't been lost already.
The soft underbelly of goodwill offered ourselves up. This Shamima sort probably will come back, maybe with or likely without crocadile tears. She will go to jail and justice will have been said to have been done. Lots of money will be wasted in watching her and making sure she complies with the traditions of this country. Yet no doubt while in jail she will be lauded by a growing community that quite frankly cant be touched with these ideas of doctrination. I dont vote so poticians didnt do it for me. donny Ill hand over the mantle of giving a s hit to you. |
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I am sure babies are born in Syria and do survive
As she lost three out of three babies the problem seems more likely to be with her just my own opinion She should join her husband in Holland, although if he goes back there, he will serve some jail time That is supposed to be what wives are supposed to be for, stand by your man |
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Thank you Dolly.
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I see it's the Home Office's fault..that's 1.01 landed.
The BBC has even sent someone to visit her Father in Bangladesh who of course blames the UK for letting her go in the first place. |
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blame game up & running. Surely this is Graylings fault?
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its Tammy mouse
 Yes Injera I think her father has to take some responsibility To be fair he did not get the warning from the school about this, they stupidly gave it to the girl But is her father, he is supposed to protect her, some say he even drove he there??????????????? |
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 meant Tammy |
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Has abbot offered her Spare room to the Young couple
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