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Always thought the man was a ****...The Movie just confirms it...Yeah I can see why they want to tear the Statues down...First Class @rsehole….
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Troll-o-meter twitches straight past 10 and hits the pin at the end of the red zone.
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What the **** are you on about j.c?
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The key point is that he hated Germany rather than hating Britain.
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Go on Acey ,on what grounds,Gallipoli,...?
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Mouse has it, would his detractors feel happier if we'd had a paragon of virtue in charge and lost to Hitler? Probably not.
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Defeating Hitler may just have been delaying the inevitable
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Was not the guy pushed into a position no one else wanted?....hand painter beats house painter
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"We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again"
we should have suck with Chamberlain |
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Hitler broke that I believe Baphornet?
When Churchill made that speech we had just suffered a terrible defeat in France. People of this country were genuinly afraid the Germans would invade us at any moment. Any way we won in trhe end. Would people have preferred it is Germany won WW11. Maybe people so??????????????????????????????????????? |
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Would people have preferred it is Germany won WW11.
I don't see how anyone could begrudge them if they've lost all the previous 10  |
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They've more than made up for losing the 2 WWs in world cups.
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It was Chamberlain who declared war on Germany...in response to Germany's
invasion of Poland. He stepped down in May 1940 after our armies very poor showing in Norway, where we were forced to withdraw by the Germans. I think Churchill's strength was always his rhetoric, we will fight them on the beaches etc which was needed at the time As for his military decisions, questionable, Italy?????, seemed more of Gallipoli from WW1, not successful. |
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Perhaps Churchill’s only fault was that
he was too nice |
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nevertheless how glorious Churchill was , and how glorious Britain
the greatest man of the 20c , the greatest country in history |
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The criticism of Chamberlain comes in 1938.
Hitler demanded the Sudetenland In Czech0slovakia, German speaking. Should Chamberlain have denied Hitler and risked starting war at the time that is the question? Chamberlain accepted an agreement from Hitler this would be his last territorial claim in Europe. Hitler broke this a few months later when he annexed all of Czech0slovakia. Chamberlain did declare war on Hitler when he invaded Poland in 1939. But he did gain a year for us to prepare for war, we at least strengthened our Air Force. Without the Munich agreement the war would have started a year earlier. |
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Your faith is touching lfc1971?????????????????????
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Chamberlain was a 1st class idiot
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the greatest country in history
It was USA last year now GB this year. I wonder who it will be next year  |
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Chamberlain was an honourable but naive man but he certainly was not an idiot.
He thought he was doing best for world peace and didn`t realise he was being played by Hitler. It was very sad that he died of cancer at a time when Germany had conquered Western Europe and he must have went to his grave a tortured soul. Very sad. He had no luck in life at all. Here he is pictured with his Ante Post voucher for Presenting Percy @ 33/1 to win the 2019 Cheltenham Gold Cup. [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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Britain & France had come close to declaring war on Germany in 1938, over it - Germanys menacing of Czechoslovakia. Chamberlain gave Germany the Sudetenland which left the rest of Czechoslovakia defenceless. War between Britain & Germany was inevitable before Chamberlain went to Munich, & he trusted the pariah of the 20th Century even though Hitler was firing up his tanks towards the Czechs. This is what Churchill said in the Commons when Chamberlain came back: “We have sustained a total and unmitigated defeat… The German dictator, instead of snatching the victuals from the table, has been content to have them served to him course by course.” He got shouted down for saying it. Six months later Hitler waltzed into Prague. Do you know what Chamberlain said about the conflict brewing between Germany & the Czechs? "A quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing" It was a betrayal of Czechoslovakia so try telling them Chamberlain was "naive" He was an inexusable idiot!
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oh & Chamberlain was forced to resign after his pal invaded Norway
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No, he wasn`t an idiot, he was naive. He believed Hitler in Munich when he said that Germany had no more territorial demands in Europe after getting the Sudetenland at the conference table. Peace in our time he declared and he naively believed it.
Yes, the Czechs were betrayed but Poland more so. Britain and France declared war on Germany following the invasion of Poland but done nothing and left the Poles to their own fate with Hitler and Stalin. |
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He had no luck in life at all. Here he is pictured with his Ante Post voucher for Presenting Percy @ 33/1 to win the 2019 Cheltenham Gold Cup.
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Ante Post vouchers were big back then gerry as shown in picture
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How big was the cheques when they won the pools?
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spot the ball back in them times mouse haway man
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Ball was stuck in the mud somewhere.
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Hitlers otha was in the Albert Hall
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Albert Hall wasn't on the coupon so the crafty newspaper men retained all steaks.
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The thing was Sudetenland was predominantly German speaking....
What Hitler was asking was for a reunification of all Germans, which was all he had asked up to that point. Was it worth going to war over this? It was only when Hitler invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia, that Hitler had now invaded a country of non Germans. The next time he did this in Poland, we declared war. Although we did not do much. We were under prepared for war as Churchill had been warning us for years |
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In the 1930's we had still not forgotten WW1, we tried to do anything to avoid another war.
This played into Hitler's hands. Germany had been unfairly blamed and punished for WW1. It was not just them Hitler told the Germans he would put this right and he kept his word. Unfortunately Hitler did not know when to stop and went beyond this.. hence WW11 |
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Like gambling everything is easier in hindsight...
Chamberlain trusted Hitler and lost. Churchill never trusted Hitler and had been telling us for years to re arm, he was of course proved right. |
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nice cherry picking but it doesn't hide the fact that Chamberlain was an idiot; you can deny it all you want but history knows the truth. How many warnings did he want or need? He was the Grayling of the day; a 1st class nincompoop.
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so one was correct & the other was an idiot. Case closed
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Theresa May is the modern day Chamberlain. Getting played and shafted by the bigwigs of Europe. Difference is that she is an idiot.
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Indeed, I thought the same when I read baph's quote above.
This is what Churchill said in the Commons when Chamberlain came back: “We have sustained a total and unmitigated defeat… The German dictator, instead of snatching the victuals from the table, has been content to have them served to him course by course.” |
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If there were torture in Chamberlain's soul when he died, it might have been because he assumed he would soon be returning to Number Ten after Churchill had brought the country to ruin.
The Norway debacle which caused Chamberlain to resign was at least as much the fault of Churchill himself, who was First Lord of the Admiralty at the time: a fact the loyal Churchill repeatedly emphasized in the Commons debate. With that in mind, I still find it hard to understand how Chamberlain came to resign, never mind why Chamberlain was content for Churchill to be his successor. Unless, as I say, Chamberlain assumed it would result in a path back to power for him later, with a renewed mandate. Just my opinion. |