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Just Checking
28 Feb 19 11:07
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"Limits on how much internet gamblers can stake and spend online would be introduced if Labour was in power, the shadow culture secretary has promised.
Tom Watson said the tougher rules would tackle "Britain's hidden epidemic" and said current laws were "unfit for the digital age".
Labour's plans would also include a limit on the speed of play."

Would this affect the exchange? You'd have to fear it would. The stupidity of control freak socialists never knows any bounds. Assuming that would affect the exchange, I'm sure the betfairians here would LOVE some nanny state moron who doesn't understand how it works coming up with f-wited rules that mess it up.
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Report donny osmond February 28, 2019 11:23 AM GMT
nobody loses on betfair so it wouldnt impact the site
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 11:32 AM GMT
Don't worry, I'm sure flabbot could understand the complicated concepts of backing and laying... Maybe Chairman Mao or Marx wrote a book on it.
"The little red book of inplay martingale staking"
Report aaronh February 28, 2019 11:54 AM GMT
Surely JC would never complete misrepresent something about Labour/Corbyn, SF?
Report RacingCert February 28, 2019 11:55 AM GMT
Dear, oh dear, Studyform. I’m going to have to correct you.
I hope I can get away with it but no doubt you’ll wriggle out of it.
The forthcoming sugary drinks tax will be a Tory nanny state imposition.
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 11:55 AM GMT
Do you know what a caveat is, oh lord of pointing out the error of our thinking?
"Assuming that would affect the exchange, I'm sure the betfairians"
I have absolutely no grounds whatsoever given the stupidity of the corbyn front bench that anything they do would be idiotic.
Q.v. their endless banging on about banning "zero hour contracts" when many MANY people want to be on zero hour contracts.
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 11:56 AM GMT
should read:
"I have absolutely no grounds whatsoever given the stupidity of the corbyn front bench mot to think that anything they do would be idiotic."
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 12:00 PM GMT
At least Betfair are owned by "Paddy Power", if the parent company was "Levi Power" I'd imagine Corbyn's labour would get especially vindictive.
Report STUDYFORM February 28, 2019 12:47 PM GMT
Well done. 3 straight (possibly insulting) posts with the message in 5 minutes!!!

Also.
Does anyone actually know what form this anti-Semitism has taken, or is it just perpetual news to hit Corbyn with?

A thing started by an anti-Corbyn Jewish association (the board of deputies of British Jews), taken on by some anti-Corbyn MPs, particularly Jewish ones, and run with by the press and the agenda runners on here. Yet no-one has ever actually said what they've said or done that's so anti semitic!

It's certainly mentioned on tv and radio daily but never a mention of any anti-Semitism from anyone else.
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
One of the two was a correction of missed words from the previous post but of course misunderstanding what is going on is your MO. Along with pretending you are a bastion of objective moderation while CONTINUALLY having an aggressive go at anyone who is vaguely "right of of centre" while ignoring or defending anyone who is "left". Do you think WE are stupid and can't see this?
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
Anyway glad to see SF has once again taken a thread (100% betfair relevant, about betting policy by britains 2nd policy) and taken it into a "boohoo you are so biased and just don't get it you are so blinkered" type sidetrack. For the 1000th time. Why do intelligent people waste their time engaging....
Report Just Checking February 28, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
*britains 2nd party
Report STUDYFORM February 28, 2019 1:36 PM GMT
Actually, I'm pointing out that your opening post was cack, posted not because of content but because of your determination to slate Corbyn, lefties and Labour.
You just don't want any opposition to the cack.
You will see, if you want to read it, that I wrote about the BF relevant, betting policy (which it isn't) that you wrote about, responding about it totally.

What did I write that is "aggressive"? Or is merely disagreeing considered aggressive now?
YOU are the one using insulting langusge.

Maybe you just want to write political nonsense on here and never have it disputed. You're not alone.
Report Dr Crippen February 28, 2019 4:44 PM GMT
''His remarks come after Labour called for a ban on the use of credit cards to place bets and the publication of the party's year-long review into gambling regulations.''

Watson has his eyes firmly on the Labour leadership.
And with the extremely damaging anti-Semitism issues tearing the party apart, which singles out Corbyn as the main cause, he needs to keep himself in the public eye as the moderate caring socialist ready to step in and unite the party.

He couldn't care less about protecting problem gamblers if the truth's known.
Report Dr Crippen February 28, 2019 4:54 PM GMT
The post at 12:47, which mentions anti-Semitism is quite racist in itself by the way.
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
I thought someone would have picked me up on my last post.

Seems like certain people have had their teeth pulled.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 1, 2019 4:10 PM GMT
STUDYFORM: "It is a good thing to do, and wouldn't have any impact on the way the exchange works."

Tom Watson: "Watson would not go into the detail of what the stake limits might be in monetary terms, nor when asked if they would apply to racing and sports betting."

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/labour-open-to-stake-limits-on-online-gambling-if-evidence-demands-it/368577

STUDYFORM, I think you're confusing what you think is reasonable and would like to see with what is liable to happen when an out-of-his-depth, middle-class politician sticks his nose into something the middle classes simply don't understand.
Report STUDYFORM March 1, 2019 4:43 PM GMT
No. I have a great deal of knowledge on this subject and, although it has nothing to do with this story, actually spoken 1 on 1 with Tom Watson about gambling. (about 5 years ago).
Plenty of middle class people place bets.
Report mouse muldoon March 1, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
Which dimension you moving to?
Report SontaranStratagem March 1, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
Somewhere better than here
Report STUDYFORM March 1, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
All gambling stakes are limited anyway, Sontaran.
Report SontaranStratagem March 1, 2019 4:52 PM GMT
Its not gambling that bothers me SF

Its an attack on absolutely everything, modern society is to much imo

Better off out of it
Report STUDYFORM March 1, 2019 5:29 PM GMT
You won't see any difference to normal betting. And tbh, many online casinos need regulating.
Other than that, just about everything we do is legislated about. Always has been, we're just used to it.
Report dave1357 March 1, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
STUDYFORM • February 28, 2019 11:38 AM GMT
There is little or no enforceable legislation currently with most offshore casino sites,


Nonsense

Offering unlicensed gambling is a criminal offence.  Licensed gambling is obviously regulated.
Report Baphornet March 1, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
Eric Arthur Blair nailed it many many years ago. Just about the best thing to come out of India besides Jalfrezi
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 5:40 PM GMT
First rule of socialism - if it makes a profit regulate it until it doesn't. Then the state can take it over.
Report Just Checking March 1, 2019 5:47 PM GMT
Spike Milligan was also born in India. Bloody immigrant, coming over here and inventing all our surrealist comedy!LaughWhoops
Report STUDYFORM March 1, 2019 5:56 PM GMT
Loads of legislation, dave1357.

Because it isn't enforced or enforceable.
Which is part of the reason it's offshore, not just for tax purposes. The UK government has no jurisdiction.

So, not "nonsense" at all.
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 6:01 PM GMT
So it's all hot air from Watson, and an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of his supporters?
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
Have Labour tried to pull the wool over the eyes of their supporters before?

Like when they said ''we support the result of the referendum''
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 6:14 PM GMT
Tom Watson is on LBC at the moment apologising for anti-Semitism in the Labour party.

He just Quoted John McDonnell who said Labour's response has been too little too late.
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 6:15 PM GMT
Tune in and listen, it's an eye opener the brass face these Labour people have got.
Report dave1357 March 1, 2019 7:15 PM GMT

Mar 1, 2019 -- 5:56PM, STUDYFORM wrote:


Loads of legislation, dave1357. Because it isn't enforced or enforceable.Which is part of the reason it's offshore, not just for tax purposes. The UK government has no jurisdiction.So, not "nonsense" at all.


so what possible legislation then could be passed by tom watson and labour that would "regulate" these casinos if as you say the uk government has no jurisdiction?

I repeat offering unlicensed gambling to uk residents is a criminal offence.  Following on from that any business facilitating financial transactions for such gambling could be subject to sanctions.

Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:24 PM GMT
Crippen are you on the tory lie machine blagg money , night and day you slag off the Labour Party ffs , the same party you used to vote for
Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:25 PM GMT
Never once do you criticise the Spiv Filth for wrecking this country AngryAngry
Report Baphornet March 1, 2019 7:29 PM GMT
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Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:31 PM GMT
Laugh well done hornet
Report RacingCert March 1, 2019 7:32 PM GMT
Hey, anxious, are you aware that in scandals involving standing mps the convention is for conservatives to be over sex and labour about money?
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 7:33 PM GMT
Anxious, slagging off the Labour party is the only show in town at the moment.

The only problem is which angle to come from.
Report Dr Crippen March 1, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
They defended letting in half the world calling everyone a racist who objected, and now they turn out to be the worst set of racists in politics.

And you wonder why they're on the rack.
Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
Crippen you live in a world of make believe , all political parties make big mistakes , unfortunatley you are so one eyed you only criticise Labour
Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:40 PM GMT
Ypu forget to mention the tories and trickle down, austerity , the destruction of the nhs , rip off private utilty firms , persecution of the disabled and vulnerable by the dwp , social care and old people receiving a third class service ,
Report anxious March 1, 2019 7:41 PM GMT
You prefer the  tory lie machine agenda , no wonder the country is fooked
Report aaronh March 1, 2019 7:46 PM GMT
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With the Shadow Culture Secretary promising to introduce limits on how much internet gamblers can stake and spend if Labour get into power, 78% of Brits say they would support this policy

big if true
Report mouse muldoon March 1, 2019 7:48 PM GMT
How much would it cost if all the pro punters had to start claiming universal credit?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 1, 2019 8:04 PM GMT
I'd vote for anyone who just said they'd leave me alone.

Nobody ever offers that though.
Report RacingCert March 1, 2019 8:13 PM GMT
SFB, your (near) namesake was probably your best bet.
Report STUDYFORM March 1, 2019 8:23 PM GMT
dave1357, I don't suppose any legislation that would be enforceable would really work against dodgy companies.
But I think you are naïve if you believe all these firms toe the line.

What happens is, that there will be new rules and any firm not adhering to them when dealing with the UK customers would have their UK licence revoked.
As happens already with independent betting shops (well, until they all disappeared).
Nothing has happened yet, but if it did, it would be extremely unlikely to impact, in any way, most betting for nearly everyone.

FOBTs needed sorting and trying to sort online casino games is a logical and sensible move.
Report The Management March 2, 2019 11:52 AM GMT
It doesn't matter which party allowed it to happen (it was Labour) or which party sorts it out - what needs sorting desperately is the advertising of gambling.

You cannot watch any sporting event without some cockney halfwit telling you to "have a bang on that" - usually a 12/1 score-cast that should be 50/1. A bored housewife (sexist I know!) can't even watch The Chase at 5pm in the afternoon without having Bingo thrust upon her every 15 minutes - no doubt if you were to look at the bingo site it would just be a front to divert you onto their slots or roulette with the promise of free spins. Social Media, Facebook etc already has children now effectively gambling (albeit for candies or marbles or whatever rather than money) but they are being groomed (psychologically and chemically) for the big-time and a life of misery when they come of age.

I think in a few years time we will have a massive spike in problem gamblers from the female and yoof demographic because of the current rules (or lack of rules) on advertising.

You can say it's their choice and argue for an unregulated free for all if you like (survival of the fittest) but I don't think children should be groomed for gambling any more than alcohol, cigarettes, etc. It's a time-bomb imvho.
Report lux March 2, 2019 2:16 PM GMT
Report Torquemada March 2, 2019 3:38 PM GMT
That's the salute used by The Muslim Brotherhood. Is that Corbyn at Finsbury Park Mosque?
Report Torquemada March 2, 2019 3:49 PM GMT
Shameful that this person is leader of the opposition with a chance to be PM. He hates Britain, its history and traditions. Friends with terrorists and leads a party riven with antisemitism. It's like some sort of sick joke.
Report akabula March 2, 2019 4:24 PM GMT
Report conditor March 2, 2019 6:31 PM GMT
Just shows how politics gets in people’s minds, it’s  a show ,pantomime,fersard.  .ba ba
Report mouse muldoon March 2, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
You forgot to put the berets on yer pic, aka.
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 9:25 PM GMT
Where to start?
He is so anti anything British it’s stupefying.
I can just see him coming into my golf club, he just wouldn’t know how to talk to any one.
He supports a football team with no British players.
Does he like cricket? Prob not.
Talks to terrorists but not to the British pm unless conditions are agreed.
Tbf jaw jaw is better than war war but does he actually know that it was Churchill who came up with that.
Tricky cos he prefers Stalin and Lenin to Churchill.
Let’s not forget the “stupid woman” thing. Showed himself to be a misogynistic liar there.
Why has probably the best ever mp left the Labour Party ... Frank Field.
Hang your effing head in shame jezza cos Field deserves beatification.
OK i’m Not sure on the anti-semitism thing. Israel is a pretty ugly state and Palestinians have had a shocking time (understatement) but the retweet of that pic of Jews sitting on the backs of the poor was bad.
There’s probably more but that’ll do for now.
Report akabula March 2, 2019 9:45 PM GMT
Would give the Falklands to Argentina despite the islanders voting 100% to remain British and also despite the fact the islands have never been in the hands of Argentina.
Would give Gibraltar to Spain despite the inhabitants wanting to remain British.
Says he's like to disband the army although he'd settle for down sizing and an end to Trident despite our commitments to NATO.
To be continued.
Report anxious March 2, 2019 9:52 PM GMT
Same old garbage from the defenders of the Imperialist Capitalist Establishment , every day same ole song
Report akabula March 2, 2019 9:55 PM GMT
Right on cue along comes Jeremys spiv fanboy to defend his anti-Britishness. Sad.
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 9:58 PM GMT
Anxious, can nothing get through to you ?
Not garbage at at all.
You really need to open your eyes or do you want this country destroyed.
Report anxious March 2, 2019 10:04 PM GMT
Racing why are you playing the man and not the ball, this country has been destroyed by the spivs and their austerity , trickle down ,  destruction of the nhs/ social care , support for rip of private utilty  firms , persecution of the poor and vulnerable by the DWP , Ignoring the plight of our young people , cuts to the police when crime is rising , etc
Report anxious March 2, 2019 10:05 PM GMT
This drivel about britishness is nothing but brainwashing by the establishment , does supporting the union jack pay the bills ?
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 10:14 PM GMT
At last something specific from you, anxious.
Ok i’m Not a fan of austerity but spending money wisely who can argue with that?
A bloke I know got a bmw on that mobility scheme thing, where is the effing sense in that?
People are rewarded for being helpless.
Destruction of the nhs? I just don’t go with that. Mediacal care is getting moe and more sophisticated and that costs money.
The reason I am on here tonight is because mrs cert is in hospital being looked after.
7 years ago she contracted ovarian cancer and the numbers on that are not great but she is still going ......thanks to the nhs.
No I don’t like the utility companies but nationalised they  weren’t great either.
That’ll do for the time being.
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 10:16 PM GMT
Supporting the Union Jack?
I’m John Lennon with imagine but Corbyn and labour promote anarchy.
Report themightymac March 2, 2019 10:18 PM GMT
Sorry to hear that Mrs Cert is not well and I wish her a full recovery. Good luck.
Report anxious March 2, 2019 10:20 PM GMT
Racing sorry to hear about Mrs cert , hope she gets top treatment and lives a long time , your entitlerd to your opinions even though 
i disagree
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 10:23 PM GMT
Thank you, mightymac.
And thank you, anxious. That is very gracious of you.
I just wish we could always be respectful to each other.
I hope I am.
Report themightymac March 2, 2019 10:25 PM GMT
On the original topic, stakes are already limited. I am limited to 34p max bet. Winning accounts are closed or restricted with bookies, so it would probably save the ones who can still bet large sums a right few quid, but in principle, I`m against it but betting with Credit Cards should certainly be banned.
Report themightymac March 2, 2019 10:29 PM GMT
Best of luck RC and Mrs Cert. Stay positive and Mrs C can beat this.
Report akabula March 2, 2019 10:33 PM GMT
Yes good luck and best wishes to MrsC.
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 10:37 PM GMT
Thanks, guys, but some things are inevitable.
It’s happening soon.
Let’s not mention it again but thank you.
Much appreciated.
Report RacingCert March 2, 2019 10:44 PM GMT
Pretty sure I am taking the ball tbf, anxious.
I’m a great believer in the Buddhist thing about a finger pointing to the moon.
Goodnight.
Report akabula March 2, 2019 11:16 PM GMT
Anxious what part of my post don't you believe.
Everything I posted is true and JC is online saying what I've posted.
As regards the Falklands I think he eventually suggested joint control by the UK and Argentina.
BTW the Falklands are self governing and only rely on the UK for security and diplomacy.
Report lux March 3, 2019 12:45 AM GMT
A traitor to democracy, a traitor to the working class and a traitor to Britain. Can't wait to see the level of cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics this **** will need to employ if there's a General Election.
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