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Right from the beginning, from almost the first mention of the word "populist", I remember muttering at the TV arguing along the lines that surely populist means it is popular amongst the population.
In other words, the whole of idea of democracy - one man, one vote (old saying, no accusations for sexism please).
One man, one vote means a stockbroker from Oxted and a street cleaner from Thameside have any equal say.
It's pretty much become a disparaging term now in media circles, just as the word 'progressive' has somehow gained kudos without anyone seemingly understanding what it means or challenging its use.
In other words, the whole of idea of democracy - one man, one vote (old saying, no accusations for sexism please).
One man, one vote means a stockbroker from Oxted and a street cleaner from Thameside have any equal say.
It's pretty much become a disparaging term now in media circles, just as the word 'progressive' has somehow gained kudos without anyone seemingly understanding what it means or challenging its use.
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Has become interchangeable with bigotism in recent years for some reason.
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yes a bad choice of word to describe it
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Populism refers to popular choices that lead to terrible outcomes. It would be popular if you got paid a full wage for working 2 days a week. It would be popular if you splashed out on a flash car and a holiday when you can't afford and it puts you in debt. It would be popular with teenagers if they got to play games at school.
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And 'progressive' means handing over what you've worked for to anyone who wants to take it.
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It's a bury your head in the sand, jam today politics that leads to disaster, which is seen at it's most extreme in Venezuala.
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BREXIT was a populist vote. We'll get our country back, we'll stop immigration, we'll make our own decisions and we won't be contributing to the EU. All sounds marvellous.
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If remain had won would that have been a populist vote ?
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Of course not.
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Populist = anti establishment.
We were very naughty for voting to leave. We didn't listen, didn't do as we were told.. God forbid we do not agree with our Lords and Masters. Now apparently we're about to fall off a cliff, enter the abyss and suffer catastrophe. All expressons used today and for the last 6 months. Somebody hold me, I'm scared!  |
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You see it could be seen as a bury your head in the sand approach to continue with freedom of movement and mass immigration for example
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The people of this country were never asked did they want or agree with mass immigration into Britain over these last decades
If they had been asked , and they had said no Would that have been populist ? Well no one was asked of course |
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Well it's not a good idea generally to ask the public on things they are ill informed to judge on. Believe the phrase is turkeys voting for Christmas.
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You we n88 thinks he was clever enough not to be conned , but Brexiteers were not as clever as him
Silly boy |
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Why he should think he is particularly clever I don’t know
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Well when you say Brexit will be x, y, z and it isn't questions have to be asked. They will give us what they want they said, something repeatedly pointed out as fantasy at the time.
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They want to say 'I told you so' as they starve to death with us lfc, you'd think they'd be gone already.
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And when the people backing Brexit are pretty much entirely either looking to exploit the effects of Brexit on the UK or funded by regimes hostile towards the UK you have to question why these people would be encouraging something that would be beneficial to the UK.
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20 Feb 19 15:53 Well it's not a good idea generally to ask the public on things they are ill informed to judge on. - Hello Mr Verhofstadt. Fancy you being here! |
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n88 I don’t believe you or anyone else can see into the future , people voted Brexit because of problems that exist now
You may be happy to continue that path , i think that’s foolish Just my opinion , |
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Ah yes the defence of we don't know what the future holds, just have to go with it. Ignore all the predictions as project fear. Always the way sound business is run, ignore all advice and take a massive stab in the dark that it will all work out somehow even though you have no reason to believe it will.
People voted Brexit (ignoring the extremists) as they think it will solve their problems, except it won't as the EU aren't the problem. |
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n88 the future is always a stab in the dark , staying in or leaving
But it’s a matter of judgement based on how things are and have been and most people are not happy now or with the general direction of travel over these years in the EU That’s why they voted leave. Because of the past , that real that’s their experience That’s how it is |
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Goes without saying that populist is anti establishment. It's the school drop out who thought he knew better than his parents and teachers and is now stocking shelves or flipping burgers in McDonalds
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I don't think Alan Sugar did well at school, if you just want extreme examples.
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It's a badge of honour for some people to be a rebel comrade and think things are simple. Intellectually it's all they can manage
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I'm wondering how this country is in such a mess with all them intellectuals about.
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I hardly think Alan Sugar was a populist as a youngster, working hard and grafting.
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At least someone working in a supermarkets or restaurant is doing a good and useful job, unlike the thousands of layabouts who go to university every year , no I don’t really want to listen to them any more than the young person who leaves school at 16 and starts work
I’m now that impressed by our undergraduates , sorry |
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Anyone here aspire to be a miserable c**t with loads of money like Sugar?
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well they could be just a miserable **** like yourself mouse , without a load of money ?
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To make money for yourself and fund the health service and the like, for most normal people you have to make unpopular choices.
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No one else could ever be that miserable.
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Don’t listen to Alan sugar or any other of these great talents
sooner or later you have to tell them to **** off |
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well they could be just a miserable **** like yourself mouse , without a load of money ?
BRILLIANT |
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poor bait
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Clydebank you don’t understand , without North Sea oil over the last 40 years we couldn’t have funded the NHS
We can’t support millions more coming into Britain and using the NHS |
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moan moan moan, do feck all, whinge, cast envious eye on someone who has earned loads of money and call them a t0ssp0t, sit back and expect them to feed you, moan, whinge, do feck all, sing your own ideological virtues, moan, do feck all.
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I’m not moaning it won’t affect me , I have so much money I don’t know what to do with all the money
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How exactly did you find yourself in a situation where you have more money than you know what to do with?
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