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We got ourselves into huge debt because of two World Wars lfc. Arguably immigrants help fund the NHS more than they take from it. Neither you nor I, nor anyone else on thsi forum knows the answer to it. Probably no one does.
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lfc that wasn't aimed at you, it's just a general observation of the public, although it seems you recognise yourself in that
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The UK Establishment are dangerous and extreme.
Iraq Afghanistan Libya 23k Jihadis on the loose Many of them wanted to join the Euro Most of them want a Federal Europe They held/hold the coats of the rape gangs They gave Savile a Knightood Leader of Her majesty's opposition thinks Venezuela is the blueprint Populism doesn't seem so bad after all. |
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We going off topic a little bit , I know you woukd like to believe that immigration funds the nhs , because that’s what you have been told
But I am afraid that is impossible , because the nhs relies on a lifetime of work And they’ve maybe just arrived yesterday Su please don’t believe in fairy tales |
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Safest to believe what you have been told by the populists.
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Saville was a populist ****.
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He done the pop charts, so yes.
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The central tenet of populism then is: Don't believe anything you are told unless it is us populists that are telling you it.
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Populists are full of rubbish 100% of the time. The establishment is often full of rubbish because often they succumb to populism. It's a sad state of affairs, but you have to talk a lot of BS to get elected
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No , you have to distinguish the person who is an expert , such as an electrician or a plumber or a surgeon
From someone who is not such as a politician or an economist |
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Most people are hardwired to vote for promises of riches ahead of objectivity
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You see there are professions in which the experts are experts , and professions in which the experts are not experts
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No that’s wrong Clydebank , people vote every 5 years and if the government does a reasonable job they will have a good chance to be re-elected
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So Donald could quite likely be more of an expert on climate change than the scientists who specialise in that sphere.
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no , scientists tend to be experts ( although it depends somewhat on their field of expertise
politicians are not experts |
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But it is the so-called populists who are more likely to rubbish evidence provided by the scientists.
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It’s up to the politician to decide what is best to do with the information
With climate change it would be best to do nothing , and tackle any problems that might arise as we go along Just my opinion |
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People wer saying Hugo Chavez was doing a wonderful job after five years, notably Corbyn and McDonnell. It takes way more than 5 years for daft decisions to unravel. You can't live of savings forever.
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A politician has to have judgement , scientists often have very poor judgement
You can have a sharp intelligence , but that intelligence may not be very deep Don’t confuse one with the other That’s where scientists often go wrong , their intelligence is sharp But not deep |
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or populist polcies. The sh1t hits the fan in the end. Quite who is to blame for current cut backs and the generational divide, is open to debate, but overspending and a lack of housebuilding by the Labour Party are integral.
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"Arguably immigrants help fund the NHS more than they take from it"
Yet having to come up with a £65 fee to stay in the country was seemingly "a financial barrier to them staying"........... |
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Heard a BBC guy today or yesterday without breaking step or even pausing for thought refer to the ERG group in the Tory party as "Hard Right".
HARD RIGHT? This is the sort of casual insult the BBC use towards brexiteers. People who want to leave the EU are all of course racists and fascists. Don't like the EU = Fascist. We get it, BBC... |
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I call them Moggies.
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If only he was called Jacob Reee Mugg, JK Rowling might be complaining about the nickname given to his entourage.
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"Arguably immigrants help fund the NHS more than they take from it"
Yet having to come up with a £65 fee to stay in the country was seemingly "a financial barrier to them staying"........... ............... The point is we don't know. The argument has always been that immigrants contribute to the economy more than they take from it, whilst the press and social media publish stories that point an alternative picture. I have my doubts personally, because I doubt there is any decent research on the subject, and I suspect the line is based on dubious figures and doesn't include all the relevant costs. But I'd be supremely confident that EU immigration's net positive or negative contribution per head is higher than non EU immigration, so what little effect it has on immigration is not on the immigration that costs the UK.. But again there is no research I'm aware of, and it's sensitive information that is probably against "progressive" racial profiling. As n88uk has said it's not a good idea to ask the public to decide on something they have almost no idea on. |
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If you want some research then ask Jacob "Cheap Shoes" Mogg to shove his cheap boot up the cheap arses of his research group in a bid to induce said body to actually carry out some research.
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Hi....James !
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