Pakistan v India

i dont think swingers would be tolerated in pakistan these days

their PM was a master of it

did he go swinging with jemima? there's a thought

Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were the best opening bowlers I think I've ever seen live, totally unplayable at times. They could reverse swing like I've never seen before.

agreed, toe crushing in swinging yorkers the like of which i havent seen before or after, amazing stuff.

Indeed jollyswagman, my local team is Surrey and I was often at the Oval. I can vividly remember Ian Botham getting yorked by Waqar Younis and Botham just walked off shaking his head wondering what on earth happened there? An absolutely unplayable delivery!

i think when they had reverse swing we doubted the players integrity but once we had some players who mastered it we had a different view.

Yes we learned how to use bottle tops!

@ Michael Holding!

You know what I is talking'bout Slippy!

swing is back

time to bring on the spinners...

ah Donny; someone who might actually understand what this topic was about

i remember watching max walker bowl some unplayable spells over here.

i could spin it, leg or offspin, and could get it to move off the seam bowling quick(ish)
but i dont ever recall getting it to move in the air,

i never thought about launching it on end of a rocket...

my dear papa used to tell me about an Aussie bowler called Gary Gilmour who could swing it like a "Darwin boomerang" I believe he was a lefty, Donny so he may not be in support of rocket launching at the oppo

i remember gilmour, he was around same time as walker, lillee and thompson

didnt he win the semi of world cup against us? took 5 or 6 wickets in 12 overs
for about 12 runs?

then he batted at 5 or 6 when they were struuglin to match our 100 or so
and had a slog to good effect?

think he bowled well in final too

great days when there was proper live sport on bbc and war correspondents
stirring up more and more conflict were few and far between...

just had a look at Wiki, Donny. He only played 15 tests; had a tussle with Max Walker for a places & then signed for Kerry Packer. It didn't go well & he maintains he was ostracised for signing for Packer. Problems with weight seemed to finish him off. He was a decent bat looking at his stats

aye he had weight problems, and suffered a few injuries, iirc

those lads that signed for packer were well paid, which was
a strong attraction back then when most cricketers were not well paid

now can we get back to the rocket scenario

i don't think chit chat does cryptic looking at this & Jacks topic

mick malone was the boy, remember one test he bowled all day.

Bob Massie a shocking omission.  16 wickets in a test win at Lords and then disappeared

1972 from memory

Had a great test debut and that was that. He will always be remembered and be able to dine out on that one test Match.

Pakistan shot down 2 Indian fighter jets and taken one pilot hostage

Good for them, not taking any s**t good for them

It is interesting to study both countries' media. I opened NDTV website and Dawn's website. NDTV claims India killed 350 terrorists and shows pictures of an empty mosque, claiming it was a training camp. Dawn says Indian jets dropped their payload in an open field and hurried back into their own territory.

One of them is lying. I would say its India because in today's world, you would have evidence of bombing a target(especially when they claim the Indian PM saw the operation live)

Anyways, for those that never believed me regarding how biased the media can be, just take a look at both countries' media.

And that's why all media need to be shut down, detraveller

Because its a he said, she said, and they said

"who to believe" how about none of them, shut them all down and then go after their pay masters

Fk the media. I wonder which country fires a nuclear bomb first.

Has to be Pakistan that initiates, due to its smaller size. They can't afford getting attacked first.

Pakistan should be helped long before we help India imo

India are more sly than we give them credit for

I thought UK had enough issues at home not to bother with a conflict thousands of miles away(though they've joined every single one in the last two decades)

Let them fight, there might well be a lot of lessons to learn form the first nuclear war.

Pakistan should be helped long before we help India imo

India are more sly than we give them credit for

Why should we help - specifically Pakistan, but really either?

Because India are sly as f*** imo

Pakistan get a lot of unwarranted bad press

@jed There are many good reasons for a developed country to get involved in a war. But this war is slightly different than the ones we;ve fought in the last two decades. I doubt anyone from here or the US gets involved. The only involvement will come from China once it becomes clear that they are on the verge of a nuclear war. China has invested too much money in Pakistan just to watch it burn in flames.

In fact UK has some stake in the BRI in Pakistan as well. But there's no way UK/EU military can help as both India and PAk are nuclear powers and have the capability to destroy each other without any outside help.

I would doubt we would get involved either, but I was asking you why you think Pakistan should be helped when its military is acknowledged to be the largest mafia organisation in the world.

And more importantly, when its military provides support, both financial and moral, for some of our most virulent enemies?

Fk me when did Pakistan military become the largest mafia organisation in the world? They control afghanistan but thats probably as far as their influence goes.

Even the Pakistan human smuggling mafia controls more teritory than the Pakistan army

Do some reading, I fail to see why I should continue to educate the unappreciative.

Ok. but i'd appreciate if you could tell me where to start.
I know they also have influence in providing nuclear tech to iran and korea.
But you just claimed they are the largest mafia in the world. Would you like to change that stance? Or were you serious?

Why anyone would support a country that imprisons and in some large legal and societal quarters considers the death sentence appropriate for a christian woman who in 2019 drinks from a the "wrong cup" at a well, and actively supports numerous extremist groups, over a country who "likes a cows a bit more than is normal", is beyond me... SS ... he's never knowingly on the right side of the argument is he.

Change it? Why? It's true. Feel free to educate yourself, then perhaps you might refrain from some of your more fatuous comments.

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Because India are sly as f*** imo

Pakistan get a lot of unwarranted bad press



Not unwarranted if you live near me tbf. I'm surprised anyone wants us to 'help' any nuclear armed Islamic country.

There is that, but as he points out obliquely the lunatics in the BJP hardly need any encouragement either.

Are they set on converting or conquering the world?

Not as far as I'm aware, no. But they don't really help as regards peace in that part of the world and they have been responsible for some shocking behaviour - Godhra being a particularly horrible case.

My apologies, I appear to have confused the vile incident which led to the reaction at Godhra with Godhra itself. Again, apologies.

india two back in the hutch, one gone to away hutch

will they declare or send in night watchman?

Seems no-one can agree on the score.

courtsiders cleaning up !

should be on the cricket forum

They both want it
let em fight
What they gunna do nuke each other and themselves while they are at it if down wind?

Im on India, I think the Empire taught em a few tricks

Max Walker was an absolute legend

Well it seems the worlds end has passed us by

3 hours ago the media were all over it, "the world on edge"... 3 hours later its like Pakistan Vs India never happened and its some waste of space giving some "dirt on Trump"

Another masterpiece from the mainstream media ffs

Absolutely pathetic

Who's going to call them out on this???


Yeap


NOBODY as per usual

From nuclear armageddon to the wedding singer testifying inside a few hours

Only in 21st century

BBC with the headline "strange times"

Yes BBC, took the words right out of my mouth

Pakistan say they've captured an Indian pilot, and india are denying they have

Isn't it suppose to be the other way round?

"strange times" is a bloody understatement ffs

rain stopped play

donny: wicket isn't covered so i expect a lot of turn now. Word is Imran is going to put the oppo in to bat first; a wise move seeing it's Indias cherries they're playing wih

india choosing a new captain in april/ may

they might also need to build a rahul dravid to
keep them out until then.

If pakistan are capturing people, are they maybe playing British Bulldogs instead of cricket? Or a variant : Kashmiri Bulldogs?

(I've tried Korean Bulldogs, but even with soy sauce I didn't enjoy it).

Pakistan say they've captured an Indian pilot, and india are denying they have


There was an injured Indian pilot who was captured by Pakistan on TV. Why would India ask for the captured Indian pilot returned Sontaran?

rain stopped play, if nuclear war stops play i think the interruption will last a while

Gayle Force winds blowing hot in Grenada

Tin Hat alert!

Nine 6's and Seven 4's at time of writing.

100 runs off 55 balls. I call them " runs " under technical advisement, that boi don't run!

Imran Khan will call for neutral umpires at some point

My sources in Islamabad tell me Pakistan is planning a full invasion of Kashmir.

But Pakistan a free lay no matter what happens. If there is a full scale war, Pakistan gets wiped out way quicker than it can wipe out India.

I wonder what Terry's sources are telling him. Does he know a bloke that says tonnes of chemtrail 737s and 5G armed death beam tanks are lining up in attack formations?

Imran Khan would do better supplying his soldiers with bottle tops. Caused havoc against the English!

Was this Grolsch tops during Bros-mania?

er no.

either you are taking the michael or you do not know

a) your bottle tops

or b) your cricket

or c) maybe you do and you are taking the pith

it's like Only Fools & Horses. Two market traders fighting over a box load of Kashmir coats

Imran allows the prisoner to bat again without involving DRS.

must have been caught with sandpaper!

batsman is out, and unlikely to bat in second innings

might be looking for some radio work

Kashmir is a great song. You can just imagine armies marching to war to the sound of John Bonham.

Feb 27, 2019 -- 4:10AM, detraveller wrote:

It is interesting to study both countries' media. I opened NDTV website and Dawn's website. NDTV claims India killed 350 terrorists and shows pictures of an empty mosque, claiming it was a training camp. Dawn says Indian jets dropped their payload in an open field and hurried back into their own territory.One of them is lying. I would say its India because in today's world, you would have evidence of bombing a target(especially when they claim the Indian PM saw the operation live)Anyways, for those that never believed me regarding how biased the media can be, just take a look at both countries' media.

So it was India that was lying. And the Pakistnai version of events was indeed correct. Reuters reporters apparently visited the area twice and there's no sign of damage to any buildings. Satellite images also prove no damage done. Only some trees dead and a crow.

The media claimed PM Modi monitored the attack live. Modi claimed 350 people died. Both the lies were addressed to over 1.5 billion people!