Here comes my 3rd party!

this is what this 'new' party is going to preach; NEW politics

"Sane Labour" has a nice ring to it, if they are still looking for a name as an alternative to Corbyn's Labour Party.


Meanwhile...

The word 'spiv' is very often used by persons of limited intelligence (with an even more limited vocabulary) to describe better-off people with more money. 

I was wondering whether this young man also qualified for the description?  You see he's reportedly been making a few quid out of renting out his former 'social housing' flat. He uses AirBnB website to do this, despite Labour's dislike of this platform. This on top of the money he already earns in a cosy sinecure via the cronyism route.

Corbyn's Labour : Do as I say, not as I do.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6713033/Thats-rich-Corbyns-son-Sebastian-rents-ex-council-flat-Airbnb-fat-profit.html

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The momentum guy just interviewed seem to be trying to control the snarl and his hatred for the people who have just left, you can just imagine what it's like behind closed doors being a moderate labour MP, dealing with the hard left fanatics who now have the whip hand. They keep saying there is a culture of bullying and intimidation, and it's hard to understand why anyone would think they have been making it up.

The word 'spiv' is very often used by persons of limited intelligence (with an even more limited vocabulary) to describe better-off people with more money.

In my shoes I think that makes nearly everyone else here a spiv.

"The word 'spiv' is very often used by persons of limited intelligence (with an even more limited vocabulary) to describe better-off people with more money."
I wonder if there are any examples of that, that spring to the minds of forum members?

SHOES? SHOES? At least you can afford shoes mouse. I only wear cold gravel on my feeet.

Berger was getting bullied at her constituency (Wavertree) & that's when this plan came to fruition for me

because to auld labour voters would todays mp,s count as bullying is evertyday life,get on with it stuff, not counting the small minority of nasty online stuff

not a fan of owen jones but as he said abbott and the left got horrendous stck in new labour days but of course social media wasn't about in those days

This "Spiked" guy is clearly fairly hard left. I don't read **** online newspapers, I presume it's left wing?

smith is my fav latest looney mp I love her
car crash after car crash interview
now saying she won her seat at last election by promising her constituents that Corbyn would never become prime minister,
she kept that off the tv

she says she was an anti-semitism issue. Not something Labour should be anywhere near tbh

he's a brexiteer, JC

smith doesn't want a by.election because we,ve had to many elections,as she campaigns for 2nd reff, ,
she,s an absolute loon ,where she been hiding I love her ,fooooking nutter

Berger i was talking about

"Corbyn is incredibly moderate". FFS. Everything the spiked tw*t has said comes across as a corbynite.

I like the way corbyn Abbott,McDonnell et al are being praised for hanging in there when they were outsiders in the party.where else could they have maintained their £70000 p.a plus salaries & high profile ?

Bio of the spiked guy:
"He began his career at Spiked's predecessor, Living Marxism, the journal of the Revolutionary Communist Party."
My theory he's a far left corbynite was not wrong, was it!

he's still a brexiteer

Ash Sarkar has got filthy eyes, btw

I see some of the usual tory fanboys criticise posters who refers to some people as Spivs , i dont see whats wrong with that after all it sums up the tories and their cheerleaders perfectly

Enough about Corbyn, Loose Women now back on the BBCs favourite topic: Diversity and why White People are BAD.

Baph a lot of the hard left want Brexit as it would remove constraints put on us by the EU that would prevent them from destroying the UK with marxism.
So the EU isn't all bad!

i think "spiv" is a term of endearment, anxious

i know, JC just remember him having a row with Yasmin Ali-baba on the press review

And as usual the luvvies on the BBC are saying that being a white woman is so terrible and being a "BME" must be even worse.
Yet time and time again we are told it's white working class MEN that are being left behind in the UK.
Just the other day yet again there were stats saying that as a proportion of the population, white people are LESS likely to go to uni than BME. Women are more likely to go to uni. The most under represented group at british unis are white working class men.

That's a simple fact. Not that you'd get that from the PC back slapping crap on Loose Women do Politics.
From 2016:
https://fullfact.org/education/are-white-working-class-boys-least-likely-go-university/

Is that because they are working class so they are going to work?

I enjoyed being in the metal working class at school. The Iron Maiden Proletariat Club were a great bunch of lads.

ah, The Evil That Men Do

2, minutes, to breeexxxiittt. The vote, that threatens doom!

is it all over?

The "Gang of Four" lasted 7 years (unfortunately)

Bap did you see the other news mentioned on the "loyalty oath" thread. Labour have readmitted that nutter Derek Hatton, a marxist/trosykist that was thrown out of the party for trying to infiltrate Labour and turn it into a hard left party :) Great timing for that little nugger to come out today. Derek just tried it a couple decades too early.

noooo, really?

*nugget. And yes really. The most amusing thing is the timing. Hope it still gets a mention on the Anti-Brexit at Ten.

can't be a coincidence, can it?

Stick with nugger - a terrific new word imo.

It's cromulent for sure.

rhymes with mugger so appropriate

LOL at the bitter simmering labour activist on the news with the lenin beard, cloth cap, and socialist red tie. What I think of him rhymes with the smallest pig in a litter.

i'm watching the devilish Laura on the Beeb

Anna Soubry among the MPs thinking of joining them? Every time she opens her mouth I question if she's in the wrong party.

Another nugger.

^^^ JC's 10.10post

Soubry would kill em off quicker than Bill Rodgers

yes, i shall be using 'nugger'on the odd occasion

mind you the way i type i'd better be careful

It's funny how Japan is a relatively small island with few natural resources, population in high density as large areas aren't very habitable, but still has so many and varied (and sometimes dominant) industries and has done for many decades. These are dynamic successful independent companies. Did they not have militant trade unions destroy their crap inefficient nationalised industries in the 70s or something?

This gang of 7 will soon be forgotten and consigned into oblivion, and then ask to wriggle back into the Party post the Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbot Communist regime. However, I do hope these 7 (now) Independent MPs will do the honourable and decent thing and formerly give up their seat and seek re-election as Independent MPs - a natural progression as they've already resigned their Labour Party whip.

The Conservative Party had Michael Howard as their teflon-man; Chuka Umunna is the Labour Party equivalent just a bit thicker and more transparent.

Japan is a great country, JC. It is rather perplexing that the 3 main powers we fought against in World War 2; are now flourishing. While we struggle to buy a ferry boat

i think Grayling has founded the updated version of Teflon

2 Tories joining  - apparently

6 of the 7 have enormous majorities. surely their personal standing and reputation will ensure they sailed through any by election against some corbyn stooge ?

yep, might be a good time to get it done

Feb 18, 2019 -- 5:10PM, mafeking wrote:

6 of the 7 have enormous majorities. surely their personal standing and reputation will ensure they sailed through any by election against some corbyn stooge ?

I doubt if any of them would win a by election.

No need to worry.  Nicholas Manduro and his cronies can get fast tracked to replace them.  Having a bus driver in their ranks will push up their average IQ

TICKETS PLEASE.

Hatton looks younger nowt han 30 years ago. Must be the Wavertree air

bit twitchy and stuttery now, might have been on the scouse talc for a few years

The fact that it needs us to tell them to hold by elections speaks volumes. They don't get it...

They know Corbyn and his poltical ideolgy would be a disaster for the country so they've done the honourable thing.

they're now 8! Joan Ryan quits Labour & joins the 7

Another 4 and Chucky will start thinking he's Jesus.

My bad, he'd need another 5, I'd counted himself as a disciple.

I'd be very surprised if more will resign their Labour Whip for the reasons stated so far - they are not Party resignation. These MPs are no Shirley Williams, Bill Rodgers, David Owen or Roy Jenkins who were all former Cabinet Ministers. And I must admit I do not even know (apart from one) their names until their resignations.

Another 3 it will be sufficient to form a mixed-sex mature football team.

there's more to come; the nutcase is trying to bring the vote forward before some of hers move over

the latest, another one to say she knocked on doors promising they could vote for her in the confidence Corbyn wont be PM, more democracy uk style must remember to send the handbook to countries in the middle east

as predicted, the Tories are joining in, Heidi Allen is a surprise to me

they've move before the nutcase moved the vote

Tracey Crouch next? Is there a market on hear?

Heidi allen always fighting tory policy, she said she would when becoming mp

there's plenty like that, 1stTP; doesn't mean they would go an hour before PMQT. Interesting to see if they make a show during it

May taking the defections far better than the viceral Labour bully boys.

wait until a Cabinet member goes, Clydebank

You have to be utterly naive and consumed by ignorance to vote for Corbyn,

they probably said that  in ire about the fruitcake and looneys known as the dup ,now running the country

fruitcake and looneys of ukip which started all this off

there could be a GE coming if this carries on

word of the day - "Broadchurch"

they've sat in the same seats; Tories that is

Very interesting now on Sky News about how relaxing membership rules has meant Labour mainly but also now the Conservatives have been hijacked by far left and far right new party members, meaning that it's impossible for anything other than a far left candidate to emerge, and in the future a far right leader of the Tories to emerge.

A new party is inevitable

Yeah a new election quashes the formation of a new party in the short term, you would think.  But long term it's difficult to see a new party not emerging

well i've been saying it for a while, Clydebank. It's what i want & it's what the country needs; but it has to have creedence, & at the moment it has none

The problem with many if not most people they are set in their ways and incapable of looking at new evidence and changing their minds.  That's a challenge that a new party faces.

Soubry leaves? I called it! What a tipster. I'm the new moneytree. Politicstree :smugface: Except I get it right :P

Good riddance to her, don't know about the others but for many months it's like she's shown open contempt for the entire Tory party, not just a disagreement on Brexit. Extremely arrogant gobby woman who will LOVE even more limelight.

Feb 20, 2019 -- 5:50AM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:

Very interesting now on Sky News about how relaxing membership rules has meant Labour mainly but also now the Conservatives have been hijacked by far left and far right new party members, meaning that it's impossible for anything other than a far left candidate to emerge, and in the future a far right leader of the Tories to emerge.A new party is inevitable

Won't happen in the Tories unless the makeup of the MPs alters radically. Boris would win with the members easy I think but will struggle to get on the ballot in its current form.

Time for the whigs to seize their opportunity.

I've always been a moderate Tory.  I certainly don't have a party to vote for as things stand, but Corbyn politics will be an absolute disaster and lead to mass poverty for twenty years or more.  All these Labour politicians saying it's better to seek change by working for change are talking bollox out of self interest in keeping their seats.  It's nigh on impossible given the party is in the grip of a new far left membership, that live by an ideology that in practical terms is a complete disaster.

the automaton is off!

by working for change inside the Labour Party that is

Tories "far right". Christ on a bike.  Hating the EU cuts across all bounds, this constant attempt to say strong pro Brexiteers is far right is just an attempt to denigrate them. It is abslotutely not debatable however that the Labour party have been taken over by the far left. Their history says that, the fanatical hard left momentum support says that, the shadow chancellor says he wants the downfall of capitalism etc...

the nutcase is quite possibly the worst orator the House has ever seen. And that includes Cable

That's the way it's going to go JC. It's not there yet, but it's on it's way.

BREXIT is the biggest decision any government has ever made.  It transcends normal party lines and whilst most BREXITeers are not far right at all, the far right faction are going to infiltrate it.

the blame game

jeez & they called Major "grey"

i relish the day that woman is gone from my sight

Rosie Duffield is 47?

Junker kicks May in the nuts - again!