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13 Feb 19 09:29
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Yes, we know but what is being done about it?

900 elves monitoring twitter doesn't count!

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trilby22
When: 13 Feb 19 09:33
Mr Donald said that since 2010, cuts meant that there were 22,000 fewer officers and that the "once revered British model of policing is currently on its knees and facing extinction".

Responding to the survey, Policing Minister Nick Hurd said the government recognised that "policing's greatest asset is its people" and extra money was being made available to recruit more officers.

He said: "I am delighted that parliament has approved our funding package for next year, which will increase investment up to £970m, including money raised through council tax. Wink

"This funding settlement recognises the demands on police forces and police and crime commissioners are already setting out plans to recruit more officers as a result.

"We take the well-being of police officers and staff very seriously, which is why we launched the Front Line Review to listen to their concerns and have invested £7.5 million in a new national police well-being service."  A whaaat? Confused
By:
jed.davison
When: 13 Feb 19 09:50
Meanwhile, arrests for comments on Twitter, the routine harassment of motorists and the reluctance to investigate any other crime short of murder continues.

If the British way of policing dies, who will miss it?
By:
trilby22
When: 13 Feb 19 10:01
Fair point, Jed.
By:
trilby22
When: 13 Feb 19 10:03
However, that scenario appears to be replacing our much loved and respected bobby on the beat.
By:
trilby22
When: 13 Feb 19 10:04
From SEVEN years ago …

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9150425/End-of-bobby-on-the-beat-as-third-of-police-stations-close.html
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By:
Reynard
When: 13 Feb 19 10:16
Many police officers are now engaged in the role of revenue raising for the DVLA and HMRC as opposed to their actual job of serve and protect Plain
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 13 Feb 19 10:35
Austerity baby
By:
jed.davison
When: 13 Feb 19 11:02
It's little to do with austerity, more to do with the choices made and prioritised by individual Chief Constables.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Feb 19 11:55
Cameron has his fingerprints all over this mess.

He's the one who created the position of police crime commissioner.

So now the role of chief constables has been undermined by these overpaid charlatans, and the people who did know what they were doing now sit back and let the poseurs get on with it.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 13 Feb 19 12:05
No he's, you're wrong.

Police and the whole justice system has been pared to the bone.

As for choices, if parliament writes laws about online abuse etc then I suggest your direction rather than the force duty bound to enforce them.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Feb 19 12:09
1.01 landed.

Trust PP to disagree - lol.

He hasn't got a clue what's going on.
By:
jed.davison
When: 13 Feb 19 12:24
A coherent sentence would also be agreeable.

He doesn't want to see the real picture Dr, he's merely interested in disagreeing with anyone he perceives as a Right-winger, and bashing the Tories. Predictable, and lamentable.
By:
alun2005
When: 13 Feb 19 12:53
There have been laws against Female Genital Mutilation for years, but only now in 2019 have we seen a first successful prosecution in the UK. (I also hardly need mention the Industrial Scale Rape of sexually-underaged white girls by organised gangs of primarily Pakistani/African heritage men, ignored by Policing bodies for decades).

Examples of where Parliament wrote laws against such abuse, but the Police Forces of Britain did NOT feel duty bound to enforce them.


Nothing to do with "Austerity" whatsoever. A simple matter of misguided Policing priorities which betrayed generations of girls and young women in their thousands.
By:
jed.davison
When: 13 Feb 19 12:58
And continues to do so. They won't have just stopped and gone back to their kebab shops.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Feb 19 13:01
a tory stood up a blocked legislation on female genital mutilation only last week in parliament

same tory that blocked legislation to outlaw upskirting


did somebody say lamentable?
By:
alun2005
When: 13 Feb 19 13:04
See my thread "Difficult Decisions : Policing Priorities" to see some example of what requires a police intervention in this exciting modern age of the Pretendy Hate Crime.
By:
trilby22
When: 13 Feb 19 13:55

Feb 13, 2019 -- 1:01PM, donny osmond wrote:


a tory stood up a blocked legislation on female genital mutilation only last week in parliamentsame tory that blocked legislation to outlaw upskirtingdid somebody say lamentable?


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/christopher-chope-misogynist-mp-disowned-13978466

Sir Christopher has not commented when approached by the Mirror.

Instead he told the Daily Telegraph he was in favour of the FGM legislation but wanted it to be debated properly by MPs.

He said: “It is a fundamental point… Even the Government insists on having its own Bills debated on second reading."

Asked about his response to the criticism from the Cabinet ministers, he said: "It is a pity they are indulging in virtue-signalling rather than looking at the substance."

He added: "My constituents know what I am doing. We are having letters saying 'what is Parliamentary democracy all about?' I object to Bills going through undebated at second reading."

"People are muddling up the substance of the matter. You could virtue signal. We could do all of our law by emotion rather than by debate."

By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Feb 19 14:20
yeah , so he stands up, says object, and a bill that would have been properly debated at next stage is cancelled

what a sad bloke he is,

why should he be the one to prevent all these young girls getting the protection they deserve?

now if tories do not make a new bill the chance to clear up the legislation has gone

why anybody would defend somebody allowing fgm is beyond me
By:
Crisp77
When: 13 Feb 19 15:08
It wasn't like this in the 80's. You never saw Juliet Bravo on her knees.
By:
Knight Commander
When: 13 Feb 19 15:48
Speak for yourself Wink
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