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Why is he not our PM?
https://www.westmonster.com/nigel-no-deal-is-better-than-the-backstop/
Check vid particularly from 2mins 33secs
https://www.westmonster.com/nigel-no-deal-is-better-than-the-backstop/
Check vid particularly from 2mins 33secs
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I had the news on with no sound, who was the bloke in glasses shouting at him?
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He is a great orator, there is no question of that, but so was Hitler.
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Martin Luther King also.
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Quite a simple reason really:
Farage has stood for election to the House of Commons seven times, in five general elections and two by-elections, but has not won any of those elections. |
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Verhofstadt, saddo? Now there's a proper nanzi for you!
I've only heard his outburst but not seen it yet. |
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Is Nige not talking perfect sense though, Mac?
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Farage has been an elected MEP for a couple of decades.
If there was PR in this country he would be an MP. Very hard for a new party to get an MP in our broken system. |
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Superb speech by Nigel.Whatever you might think of him the guy sure has gravitas in spades.
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20 years drawing a wage and expenses from the EU, and says he,d stand again if scenario came about, sounds like the original undisputed number 1 reluctant remainer,
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I haven`t seen the video trilby, so I can`t comment.
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men with gravitas don't lose 9 elections, if that helps
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Worth watching Mac. Only last 3 1/3 mins.
I should have said nearer 2:25 than 2mins 33secs in my op |
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^ but the whole speech is very good.
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he.s like the old bloke sat in the same corner of the pub 7 afternoons/nights a week for 20 years moaning about the beer,and when asked why doesn't he go to the pub down the road the beer,s better,says its cheaper in here,
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argh nigel,i saw a nigel getting interviewed on tv on reff night when it looked like remain had won,when asked if that's it will he retire said no I,ll , keep on campaigning to leave the EU, wonder whatever happened to him, shame really if he,d hung around he,d have been known as a leavemoaner
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Good speech. If only we had a negotiator who would stand among them and speak like that, instead of the craven wimps we sent.
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When Farage mentioned leaving and adopting WTO rules under the terms of Article 24, he was met with stony silence from the EU stonewallers.
Which could indicate that they still believe Brexit can be averted. And it's now or never. |
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the auld wto rulers that most of the world trade on ,which in reality no one above 3rd rate tin pot countries trade on
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if wto rules are so good why are most brexiteers desperate to sign trade deals to get out of them if most of the world they tell us trade on them
and if its so easy to move on to wto rules why are the hardline brexiteers standing by the malthouse compromise which says we should pay their hated EU extra money on top of their hated 39 billion to get an extra year on top of the non excistent 2 year transition under no deal,meaning the likes of farage,hardline brexiteers think it will take 3 years to sort out trade deal after leaving on wto terms some fool might ask if wto is so good why pay extra to get of them , how many go under in those 3 yeard |
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Look up Article 24 of the WTO rules 1tp.
It gives us at least two years grace to sort out an arrangement on present EU terms The situation would also concentrate minds into working out a deal, instead of this will they won't they leave if we stand firm, as being practised currently by the EU. |
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-wto/trade-experts-dismiss-brexiteers-faith-in-obscure-wto-clause-idUSKCN1PH24V
The article described here? |
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they want our money
they are crying into their microphones in central control german production slowing down dramatically macron the poodle - his people revolting ho ho youth unemployment exported to those who can do little about it nice happy family |
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If I understand you correctly, Dr. Crippen, you are supposing that the EU is betting on the UK not leaving if a withdrawal agreement can not be reached and Brexit would end up being no-deal.
Why then are you convinced that the EU will agree to submitting the paperwork for an interims phase? Wouldn't they just go "nah, we we ain't signing that. We think you'll come back if we don't because you fear a no-deal." |
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edy sounds like he is in favour the EU tactics.
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It would be too late to go back if we've already left. And minds could concentrate on meaningful negotiations.
Why shouldn't the EU want to come to a trading arrangement, which would be better for both parties than trading on bare WTO rules once we're out? |
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That's far too sensible, Dr C.
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It's the last chance saloon for many of the EU MPs if we crash out with their elections coming up soon after we leave.
They have to tell their voters why they haven't come to a suitable arrangement with the UK, if their trading is going to suffer as a result of what looks like a gamble on averting Brexit. |
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IT, that would necessitate that I even think those are the "EU tactics".
Dr. Crippen: Ah, so no deal and the UK gambling on the EU agreeing to that interims phase. Maybe, we'll see. I don't think Article 24 will be used in that scenario however. |
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It's the last chance saloon for many of the EU MPs if we crash out with their elections coming up soon after we leave.
They have to tell their voters why they haven't come to a suitable arrangement with the UK, if their trading is going to suffer as a result of what looks like a gamble on averting Brexit. Most people on the continent understand that the UK has been batting for unicorns and that's who will primarily be blamed for not having come to a suitable arrangement. |
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The EU making arrangements for if there is a 'no deal' Brexit to keep no hard border in Ireland.
Looks like they are suggesting a technology based solution. |
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Just waiting for moisok to announce it's actually about the EU Army being sent to Northern Ireland to annex it.
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If they EU don't want to implement Article 24, there's no reason why we can't work out a trading arrangement after we leave. That's if the EU want one, but I somehow think they will.
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every arrangement outside the EU makes uk worse off but you seem confident any uk party opposing the reff result would be punished at the polls,so why would EU countries punish their m,s for protecting their single market,rees mogg predicting 50 years before uk see,s any benefit from Brexit, so as all EU people say today short term shock today small price to pay for protecting single market access for next 50 years
you just cant see the argument from both sides,you havnt left on no problem wto rules yet but clinging on a 2 year liferaft of staying on the same terms were on now till the inks dry on any contract I,d take with a pinch of salt any words surrounding wto rules free trade agreements 2 years stay of execution etc |
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When we joined the Common Market, three years later as members we reaped the benefits of membership by asking the IMF for a loan to tide us over because we were broke.
Some good it did us being in the EU then. The UK will get on fine outside of the EU. Just like the rest of the world does that isn't in the EU. |
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Will Corbyn get behind May's deal? Only needs a just over a hundred labour mps and it is through. He tried for GE but failef he said he does not want a no deal. So I thi k this will be his plan B
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how many left a trading block of 600 million people and ripped up 60 free trade deals as they left,before having any outside of those signed up or ready to sign, before her troubles 2 weeks ago may and fox were going to big up a deal with new Zealand as a biggee
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LOL may would have armed guards stopping labour mp,s going into lobby with the tories over tory brerxiteers,they,d be finished for ever
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Farage and Trump are being told what to do and funded by Putin....enough said !
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