BBC News: "There is a debate as to whether the RAF should commemorate its wartime actions"

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Are you suggesting it's not a good idea to throw gays off rooftops, just checking

Throw them into a bottomless pit.

I'm very strongly suggesting that posy! In fact I'm stating it's not a good idea. Out on a limb I know but there you go.

over 60 percent say they think it should be illegal

but I dare not say what or who

someone will take my fence again

watch out for moving branches

BBC are a joke and I think even they know it

Does anyone seriously watch anything that cesspit of a corporation pumps out?

"over 60 percent say they think it should be illegal"
Not of indigenous British people. Amongst a certain demographic that's true, but lets not go there. They also don't like dog ownership.
Being ghey and having a Bichon Frise must drive them loopy!

apart from my sanitybeing in danger - so is the televisual machine screen - so I try to avoid the brussels corporation

don't ask for a taxi in certain areas if you have a woof woof  ho hoho

I do wonder that if you went back in time and brought the aircrews and troops back from ww2 in a time machine, showed the way Britain is going and the snowflakes and SJWs it is now producing who despise them, the state of London etc now, how Europe treats us and itself, and said "you'll die tommorow - for this" .. if they'd just say "f*ck that, not worth it mate" go AWOL and get pissed.

It seems increasingly like that...

no  I think this is a good idea - open the debate up - I could make a career out of refuting the wwII deniers - think about it - wot a fkn waste of time - but books and useless careers in academia beckon me

they are already re writing history at the eu museum - 40 million plus spent on that with some of your money

for a  start - we started it - mr hilter was a peacelover and didn't want war with the uk

I wonder why?  etc

Plus the British haters living in the UK JC.

Brylcreem Boys

Brylcreem was an instant hit with British soldiers during WWII. It quickly became standard issue for military pilots, who had a reputation for being cutting edge and sophisticated, to keep their longer hair perfectly in place during intense air battles.

You have to remember that many countries have never won a war so they are bound to feel left out.

Scotland?

Bannockburn? It did lead to full independence.

And if they'd managed to beat either Peru or Iran, they would definitely have won the 1978 World Cup. A bit unlucky there.

It must commemorate it's wartime actions...a lot of brave airmen lost there lives.


In hindsight people have questioned the morality of the bombing.


But at the time this country was fighting for its life.


Bomber crews suffered very high casualties.

Except for the final 2 atom bombs...I am not sure it had much affect on the war bombing civilians.

But both sides did this.

It was perfectly moral to bomb enemy troops, or important targets like bridges, railways, arms factories, etc.

It was just bombing cities was the problem.

What about sending vast numbers of civilians to dreadful deaths in the Atlantic? I'm not talking just about the thousands of men, women and children who drowned as German submarines indiscriminately sank every passenger boat they could find, including neutral ones; but also the merchant seamen, who were civilians too. Even neutral southern Ireland relied on those men to bring food and other vital supplies, yet those ships were all targeted by u-boats.

And that started long before the bombing of civilians in cities. War was declared at 11 am on 3rd Sept, 1939, and by half past seven that evening a u-boat had sunk the passenger liner Athenia, killing over a hundred people, including many neutral Americans.

What I'm trying to say is, whatever whingeing you hear about the RAF's Terrorflieger killing civilians, it was the men the Germans elected who bloody started it.

I have often thought about  the millions who gave up their lives in the world wars and glad that they cannot see the 21st century with grooming gangs , knife crime in London , young people priced out of buying houses and many other depressing aspects of today .

The biased broadcasting company. How they are not regularly sued for misrepresentation is beyond me... some people are saying...means they’ve asked one person on the street....how on earth do they get away with taking money via the licence...breakfast news....interviewing politicians ...alll an absolute misrepresentation of facts on a regular basis.....it’s time someone in the government took them on...

I take your point Screaming

But sinking shipping was considered a military target for German U Boats because they were attempting to

starve this country out the war.

There first bombing of cities was London in the Blitz. We replied in kind, there was the bombing of Hamburg.


Before WW11 there was a belief bombing cities would panic the population and destroy morale.

But this never happened. People just tried to carry on their lives and jobs.


After 1940 and before D Day in 1944, Bombing was the only way we could strike at Germany.


In HINDSIGHT people have questioned the morality of this, Dresden another one?

But I would not blame us, we were trying win a war.

Civilians were always going to be killed anyway, it cannot really be helped.

"There first bombing of cities was London in the Blitz. We replied in kind, there was the bombing of Hamburg."

Nonsense. The Germans when they invaded Holland were annoyed the impertinent Dutch were holding out so said "surrender or we will flatten Rotterdam". The Dutch eventually did but due to incompetence or a lack of care on the Germans part, they bombed it anyway. Before/after that Warsaw got it in the neck as well.

We didn't have the accuracy to night bomb German factories exactly so had to area bomb, it was that or pretty much nothing, and nothing wasn't an option. It's not like Nazi Germany were good guys and we were the aggressors, they were commiting mass genocide.

If we'd not been bombing them their arms/tank/plane production would have motored ahead at a fantastic rate, many men and many 88mms and planes and plane production and a HUGE amount of valuable munitions fired from them (you have to expend a large amount of AA fire to bring down anything) would have been used on the Russians, and lined up in Normandy against us.

Bombing was the right thing and the only thing. The SJW pr1cks defacing bomber command memorials should be slung out of the back of a lancaster sans parachute...

Apologies I forgot Rotterdam

It was ok to bomb arms factories..that is a legitimate target.

This argument has been going for a number of years.

Bomber Harris, who oversaw our bombing, felt he was shunned at the end of the war.


Whoever the good or bad guys are, the same rules apply to both

I have said it should be commemorated because of the heavy losses among the bomb crews

Yea I know you're not ALL bad ) Just correcting that bit

I've called off 617 squadron from bowling a bouncing bomb into your conservatory.

thank you very much just checking

but it is the morals of bombing nazi supporters (civilians) we need to queser)(question then forget it - they loved hitler)

why do we question only our bombings

how about the Reich or didn't they do anything

if you have any doubts about the support for hitler you want to check out the crowds of women cheering the wehrmacht's

return from the polish invasion - they were going daft for them thousands and thousands  of them  - huge crowds happy as larry

check out the films available

queser???    question  !!!

Because Moisok "we" (the west and especially Britain) are always wrong.....

thanks for that JC  Now I can work it all out

is this why herr merkel tells us to submit to the eu coz we are always wrong - like that birmingham uni prof?? and all those 'painters' out there (also known as ignorant scum)

My big objection to the bombing of German cities is that so many of those aircraft and aircrew should have been deployed elsewhere. The Battle of the Atlantic was the closest this country came to being knocked out of the War. Many more of those long-range, four-engined aircraft should have been assigned to Coastal Command, where they could have filled the gap in mid-Atlantic air cover to counter the u-boat threat.

But that's a strategic objection, not a moral one. And the heroism of those aircrew is without question.

good point screaming but have you apologised

Not really.

As I once had to point out to some West German pedestrians who were shouting abuse at me as I crossed an empty road despite the crossing signal still being red: "Wer hat den verdammten Krieg doch gewonnen?"

Christ we won the bloody war and therefore have first dibs at writing its history.
The reality is that the luftwaffe took it upon themselves to flatten Coventry whilst also bombing other cities;the strategy being to destroy civilian morale. Bomber command's blitzing of Dresden was partly to teach the hun a lesson and show them that whatever they threw at us they'd get back in spades.

I'm of the opinion that the SJW should be rounded up and used for baynot practice on Salisbury plain.

you always was a softy hehehehehe

Has Germany apologised to Guernica ?

moisok i'm extremely warm hearted and two nights ago had to wipe away tears at the end of La Traviata.

but of course who wouldn't

but Pavarotti - Nessun Dorma  does me in - not a dry eye in the house

we like the ballet stuff too - spinning around on the toes etc

will england be forced to apologise for the thrashing they are giving out to ireland right now???