the anti no-dealers are in overdrive

People talk about using WTO terms - do you know the only country in the world using WTO terms alone is Mauritania, a country that still has a slave trade and has a minuscule GDP.

But, again, the uneducated fools want our country to follow in their footsteps.

I will never cease to be amazed by the utter stupidity of some. Facts don't matter any more.

mr easiest trade deal in the history of trade deals,living it up with the A LISTERS in davos as the countries in crisis mode, maybe he,s trying to get one of 45 unsigned trade deals with eu agter we leave over the line before we leave,before he starts trying to  broker any new ones with china,usa just as both powerhouses are on the downturn and looking inwards rather than outwards

Mr Eboue is right. Rather than try to backfit an understanding of what people thought they were voting for historicallt, we must test the will of the people today to determine a way out of this mess. Leave may be endorsed and legitimised in the #PeoplesVote!

'Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market,' Daniel Hannan, May 2015.

‘I believe that we can get a free trade and customs agreement concluded before March 2019’. David Davis, January 2017

'The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want.' Michael Gove, April 2016

leave would waltz in if another vote happened; i for one say bring it on! But in no way would the elite risk it; no matter what you want to believe. Hence the push now & the likes of JRM relenting

Caroline Flint. i have to say i think Yvette coopers amendment is a disaster.later she says i am very concerned about and i am not inclined to vote for it at the moment but like anything i am open to persuasion.i will put her down as a no for now

not much point in answering the statements you produce, Mr Eboue as you won't answer them. A singular discussion with abuse seems to be your modus operandi

There's no need to answer statements of fact Baphornet.

Facts are facts.

jrm relenting wtf do you lot listen to or watch,
he wants an end to the backstop or a legally binding exit date inserted into the withdrawl bill, either of which is a million
and now he wants mrs may to suspend parliament to stop the commons taking charge through amendments
you might call that relenting anyone else would call it doubling down on your position

Project Fear went Nuclear June 2016. It will ramp up further between now and April.

Meanwhile wage growth outstrips inflation, 850k job vacancies and people are using rubber dinghies to escape France and come here.

Flint is a realist and I've always had time for her. She's appeared many times on This Week and QT and never ONCE can I remember thinking  "this woman is an idiot" or "this woman is clueless", unlike many MANY labour politicians, like Abbott who has done the same, or like Corbyn's stooge on the Politics Live today. ****in moron, no interest in Brexit just maximising political gain for the communist entryist d1cks who've taken over the Labour party.

your facts you mean. What you copied was a stream of comments that were made in good faith but subterfuge and chicanery put a stop to that as i posted at 4:10 & you ignored. As fro the conjecture you spout! they are not facts! They are pure unadulterated conjecture

Literally every single qualified expert (and even some Brexiteers) say that a no deal Brexit would cause severe harm to our economy.

conjecture

now here's a fact from me. The country voted to leave FACT!

1st time poster

Flint never mentioned the words i would have to think carefully about it before deciding also she did not say i am not sure of coopers amendment.a disaster was the word she used.

its people misquoting that is half the problem

plenty of abuse from the spiv fans on here today

Everyone, silence, the forum genius has appeared to share his pearls of wisdom. Let us open our ears to his vast intelligence and well argued philosphy.

LOL.

Just checking i have read your posts most of them are the usual bitter filled rants , you desperately need to calm down or find some kind of therapy

JC; i think you may have missed my 16:02 comments during that vicious outburst from the non-spiv

anxious I normally ignore you as you as you have literally NOTHING to offer but crass hypocrisy and ranting.
Do you want me to dig up the thread the other day where, while I was ignoring you as usal, you had hateful ranting post one after the other as you were obviously off your meds or started drinking early?

just checking i could not give 2 hoots what you do , dont miss jonny at 7  channel 4 news

Baps (which is my new nickname for you) :P
You obviously just want to start your own party. And lead us to a new dawn.
I might be up for it, if you'll get rid of the BBC license fee and give me some coupons for Greggs Vegan Sausage Rolls.

some terrible language and abuse and even profanity (against the Christian religion you will notice)from Eboue here

well he is a remainer, they can only be what they are

just checking are you questioning my mental health ?

Literally every single qualified expert (and even some Brexiteers) say that a no deal Brexit would cause severe harm to our economy.

But not to worry, the unemployed idiots of the betfair forum think that's what the people voted for, even though NOT A SINGLE BREXITEER SPOKE ABOUT A NO DEAL BREXIT BEFORE THE REFERENDUM.

Christ almighty the stupidity of some on here is simply astounding.

I've got to hand it to the Remainers, they've plyed it brilliantly since the day after the referendum

It helps having one of their own as Prime Minister and the MSM always were on their side but I really did underestimate just how much winning meant to them (probably based on the fact I never heard a peep from them about how 'European' they felt in 40 odd years prior to the referendum).

So they reduced the referendum result to discussions about 'The Deal', told us what we actually all voted for (a really interesting concept, since I personally spent hours looking through the history of the EU, its founding principles, the appointment and promotion of people like Martin Selmayr, the ideals of Coudenhove-Kalergi, my own experience of trading with Europe as the owner of a small business and the competitive advantage big companies have in their ability to employ departments of compliance droids to deal with the endless paperwork etc) and used every underhand argument going to promote their belief.

And more importantly, 'Leave' just let them.

Oh sure, we can talk a good talk on social media but we're fooling nobody.

When the time came, no one stood up to lead th kind of Brexit we want.

Nobody gave a vision of a future of an outward looking Britain, nimble on our feet economically, competing for the best talent worldwide, welcoming folks who wanted to work hard, better themselves and play by the rules. Nobody talked about sovereignty and the democratic deficit right at the rotten heart of Brussels - what the referendum was actually about and what we would lose when the invevitable short-term hit to our economy of a proper Leave was long forgotten.

And to answer Mr Eboue - a man whose opinions and outlook I respect despite him being a Gooner - the reason why no one talked about a No deal Brexit was because you would have to have been some kind of collectively spectacular buch of Klutzes to have envisaged such a scenario.

Not from 'the party of business' surely?

I doubt very much whether my Brexit will happen so congratulations to the Remainers but 'the world you inherit, what will it be worth?'

The only people actually for no deal are either people who have no idea what it represents or disaster capitalists looking to benefit from the outcome. The UK isn't even close to being ready to leave with no deal, as it stands if it left with no deal it would be unable to trade on WTO terms and that's very likely still to be the case come 29th March. In other words it's totally unfeasible. One of the mistakes for a long time has been letting people con themselves that no deal is anyway a feasible option.

Good stuff Hanx.

done deal, JC. Ok you lovely people; i am offski to watch Swan Lake. I will no doubt mention my 'new' Party to other lovely people tonight. I may even get a reply

pm May has a deal and we can leave in March

Only if it passes, and it's not clear how she's going to achieve that.

It doesn’t have to pass , that was never part of the equation
It’s mays deal or some other deal or we leave with no deal
At the minute it’s msys deal or we leave with no deal
That’s the options

MPs better decide quickly , if they ever can of course

No deal will be stopped and in fact May herself won't go for it anyway, so it will be May's deal or nothing.

time will tell , of course no deal is the best option

however mays deal is pretty good , let’s see

Baphomet is off to his expensive private seats to watch Swan Lake and start a new political party.

With democracy it always starts and ends with a Ballet Box.

What’s the pointe in that ? : (

I think going to Ballet reminds Baphomet of his uni days.
When he comes back from lurking and sniffing around the female dressing rooms, he comes back with an ill gotten tutu as well .

no deal is best option
mrs mays deal ok

wheres the sense in that  one isn't a deal but an aspiration, which could end up with the Norway option no Brexit in most peoples eyes or Singapore on thames
the other is a blind jump of a cliff which most experts seem to think will be cataclysmic for the uk
how can anyone compare the 2

Any remainer who cannot support Mays deal should not be respected

That’s how it is

They should not be respected , and their point of view should not be respected

she did say, deal,  no deal  or..........  NO BREXIT   I did hear that right didn't I!!!   Be warned!!

Leavers have had their chance but failed to articulate a workable future.
The country is now crying out for a managed no-Brexit. Let us keep the festival of Brexit (and keep leavers happy) but stay firmly in the EU.

Leavers have had their chance but failed to articulate a workable future.

Give me the 'kin microphone!

never start a sentence with "every qualified expert", cos you're backing something with previous form. That form line is. .PFFPFU 

ex - being a has been

spurt - a drip under pressure

glad to have helped

come on nellie how many goals tonight

how about 5.5  and trade from there

4.5

GOOD Choice -  0  0  gone from 40  to 28 very quickly  - it was errr  50 to start

What in the world is the imperative for Man C to kill this match?

Man C now 1.18 - lay.
Trade out at 1.35

Jan 23, 2019 -- 6:10PM, lfc1971 wrote:

Any remainer who cannot support Mays deal should not be respected That’s how it is

The far bigger problem is that leavers don't support it. Because it's not what they were sold when they voted to leave the EU.

As shown that in the parliamentary vote the majority of leavers opposed the deal.

you,re missing the point, leavers who don't support mays deal can and should be respected

remainers shouldn't

Airbus raising it's motley head again

Airbus fears 'catastrophic' no-deal Brexit

Katherine Bennett, senior vice-president of Airbus in the UK, has told the BBC's Theo Leggett that a no-deal Brexit would lead to "chaos at the borders" holding up the firm's deliveries. She was speaking after Airbus chief executive Tom Enders said the firm "will have to make potentially very harmful decisions for the UK" in the event of no deal.

Great news for eco warriors. Attenborough will be thrilled the planes won't fly.

BBC asking him for comment as we speak...

Man city last night were frightening - much worse than this hair bus thing - hanging on to a 0  1   - I could have lost a packet!!!!

ps we gave away our aeroplane manufacturing decades ago.

Get lost, Airfix are still going strong. I just need to finish my shrink ray that I'm working on with Brassneck :)

Airfix is alive & well; looking at the recent drone activity

oh stop droning on    ho ho ho

has any of these gullable fools fawning at attengroughs every word,ever asked him why he faked scenes about animals ,nature programmes on the beeb, if he,d put his name to fake tv shows why wouldn't he put his name to fake global warming news

and on

well today we have had the racing industry bleeping & screaming. Perhaps if they paid home grown talent enough they wouldn't have to be the Jocentreplus of the sporting world.

and now we have food shortages added to the list today Is there anything left? They have made our toilet rolls like sandpaper; has to be Brexits fault. Soon we won't be able to have a bet, or eat & hows the sex industry going? Is there now going to be a dearth of Eastern European ladies arriving at Dover to be picked up by Igor & his associates? "We are Doomed" said John Derbyshire some 10 years ago. How RIGHT he was

Sainsbury's, Asda, Waitrose and Marks & Spencer are among a host of large retailers to warn MPs that a no-deal Brexit in March will see items disappear from supermarket shelves and could put the UK's food security at risk.

It is the latest warning about the impact of a disorderly Brexit and comes after Airbus chief executive Tom Enders said last week the aerospace giant would have to move some UK operations elsewhere without a trade deal.

Is this 'project fear' or is it reasoned comments from businesses genuinely fearful of a no deal Brexit?

Anyone with a functioning brain should be able to tell.

and could put the UK's food security at risk.  What next ffs

Do you have the first clue about risk management saddo, or is putting smiley faces at the end of your message all you're capable of?

Some unemployed chancer off the Betfair forum knows more about international trade law than people who do it for a living.

Remarkable scenes.

Mr Eboue i'm just about sick or your sanctimonious claptrap twinned with your abuse for anyone on chit chats views you don't like. God help anyone who disagrees with you in the real world. Do you actually have any friends or did they all leave because of the abuse? Second thoughts; don't answer that, because i have typed my last letter and full stop to you.

I imagine eboue has plenty of friends, as he is perfectly rational about the subject.  Unlike the chit chat right wing cadre who appear unable to consider for one second why Theresa May is tying herself in knots to avoid a no deal crash out.  Perhaps it is because she knows that hundreds of thousands of jobs will go within a year?  As predicted by the only economist who supports no deal brexit.

That's it, I'm double digging the street verges.

he's about as rational as a hyper meerkat. If his ranting diatribe aimed at everyone on this forum who doesn't agree with him is rational, then close the door quietly on the way out of his padded cell, Doctor Dave

When's the vote?

doesn't seem to be happening today

how do eboue and dave know ANYTHING about this - they are simply repeating what their masters spew out from brussels HQ.

Or are they something else?

check the date, SS

Moist - I know reading isn't one of your strengths but do try and understand what I've posted.

Sainsbury's, Asda, Waitrose and Marks & Spencer are among a host of large retailers to warn MPs that a no-deal Brexit in March will see items disappear from supermarket shelves and could put the UK's food security at risk.

It is the latest warning about the impact of a disorderly Brexit and comes after Airbus chief executive Tom Enders said last week the aerospace giant would have to move some UK operations elsewhere without a trade deal.

Seeing as you're a bit dim, I'll try and spell it out for you - The above are businesses that employ tens of thousands of British people (nothing to do with Brussels HQ) and they are very worried about a no deal Brexit. What is it that you're unable to understand?

How many people do you employ Moisk? Are you qualified to talk about managing tens of thousands of people like the above businesses or are you just another clueless idiot who hasn't the first clue how international trade works?

you don't know a thing unless you are one of the negotiators -  I have learnt never to believe what I am being fed by the remain dominated televisual media

why do you want to run down UK plc  - Do your really hate the country.

It's not my opinion you utter cretin - THIS IS THE OPINION OF SOME OF THE BIGGEST COMPANIES IN THE UK!

it is arrogant supercilious people like you who have helped to create this ending with the leave vote

by slanging and insulting you have turned people away from the disaster that is your beloved federal experiment

have some of it back  ha ha

and yes I have and yes I have internationally, and tiny minds like yours repeating the constant anti brexit trash do not frighten me

but an eu army and centralised tax in the hands of merkel DOES

hope this helps

as with EVERY financial institution  like the IMF down  - they have been wrong every time about the future over the last three years relationg to our economy and brexit  - we were told we would be fked if voted the wrong way .~what happened to the emergency budget required the day after - that was one story that was well buried  and it went to the evening standard ha ha

What a surprise, you completely ignore the concerns of some of the biggest companies in Britain and then go on an infantile rant.

Facts, the enemy of the foolish.

If I was so concerned about staying in the EU I'd be busy looking at property there rather than insulting people miles below my intellect on an anonymous forum.

same as your nasty personal insults

is it a trait amongst 'progressives' like you who clearly do not like the country

would rather follow your masters from brussels

suck it up

we are leaving and you just don't like and prefer to lash out with insults

in an infantile rant

at least I know how to run a business - this is the problem - businessmen appear to have never been involved in negotiations

and a great day to be looking at extra profit  - how very clever of them all.

when pensioners on fixed income are crushed by food hyper-inflation I hope you will be proud of yourself moisok/mobo/not allowed to bet

We'll be able to divert some overseas 'aid' to help our own old uns if that's the case dave, though 'hyper' does sound rather alarmist and unlikely imo.

well unless it's added to meerkat

this topic didn't attract many 'no-dealers' did it. Maybe there isn't that many of them as Sky would like us to believe. They must be forking out a few shekels to the 'rare coin' dealer who spends all his waking time outside the Commons with a Poundland hat on his fastigium, calling anyone who disagrees with him a Nazi! Remind you of anyone?

I would love a no deal. Imagine Dimbleby closing an announcement programme with 'well that's it, we've crashed out'.

with Bruce sat on his knee. I'd pay a lot to see that; and give up my weekly ration of 2 squashed tomatoes & bruised apply ta boot!

Good evening gents, when someone invokes Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) They are generally deemed to have lost the argument.

Yet many still insist on calling someone with a differing, or opposing view a Nazi.

Personally I don't engage with such people anymore, I just can't be bothered.

rents a house on one of the most expensive streets near westminister, paid for by his supporters

Sky?

the Beeb?

CH4?

you'd think he could afford a better class of hat tbph

it is funny and i am also sick of it - someone against democracy getting that sort of attention

& getting paid for it, moisok

makes you wonder what else the MM pays for in this land of opportunity

Biased BBC up to its usual tricks. Of the 4 people on newsnight they've just interviewed right now over Brexit, 3 have been leavers, 1 is now "doesn't care", 1 is now a "remainer convert". The "leavers have changed their mind" narrative the BBC want. But opinion polls have hardly moved since the originl referendum, and keep in mind the polls were wrong in the first place, never mind 2/3 of leavers changing their mind. How puzzling.....

to be honest Jc   I have nearly given up watching any televisual news and skate over a lot of newspaper rubbish it is sucking up every bit of anti brexit propaganda and spewing it out - I should have realised it was always going to be like this

a bit like the corbyn election where even the grundian was in favour of chemical smith amazing scenes