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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7glNBtlAYhA
Two disgraceful women loving that old people have died, plus nothing to back up their arguments. The blonde bint totally ignoring democracy...look at the comments below the clip, remainers saying they will vote leave after so much of this remain tyranny.
Two disgraceful women loving that old people have died, plus nothing to back up their arguments. The blonde bint totally ignoring democracy...look at the comments below the clip, remainers saying they will vote leave after so much of this remain tyranny.
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Jamelia .. I used to like "Superstar"... 2003? For gods sake 16 years old. Where the **** do the years go.
I haven't looked at the clip, but very much doubt that it would make me stupid, which is a requirement for voting leave, if the opportunity is again presented.
Calling leavers stupid didn't work last time and won't now, some people never learn.
WELL - I just watched peppa pig and the grand parents were throwing the youngsters in the air - should this be reported?
No Dave you don't need to look at the clip to make you stupid ,yes indeedy dats the trooth.
democracy, but only THEIR democracy, when they win - otherwise it doesn't count
Dave is just a typical remainer who can't handle democracy, best out of 3? 5? 7? they will never stop till they get what they want, a few million dead leave voters, hey thats a bonus to them...
akabula you are a loser. You lose at poker. You lose gambling on here. I do neither.
Okay easychips I'll take yer word for it.
Will make a change from taking yer chips.
Will make a change from taking yer chips.
Jan 19, 2019 -- 8:16PM, doridoru wrote:
Dave is just a typical remainer who can't handle democracy, best out of 3? 5? 7? they will never stop till they get what they want, a few million dead leave voters, hey thats a bonus to them...
what? You are the one who posted "to make everyone vote leave". That could only happen if there was another referendum.
I merely pointed out that given that opportunity and given the implications of leaving someone would have to be stupid to change their vote.
remainers saying they will vote leave after so much of this remain tyranny.
That these people were ever remainers is just as believable as if I were to post a video showing some mean things about the Tory party and then post "I used to vote Tory but now I have to vote Labour after this!"
That these people were ever remainers is just as believable as if I were to post a video showing some mean things about the Tory party and then post "I used to vote Tory but now I have to vote Labour after this!"
akabula • January 19, 2019 8:21 PM GMT
Okay easychips I'll take yer word for it.
Will make a change from taking yer chips.
It says a lot about you that you have this embarrassing fantasy about "taking chips" from me.
Do you really think that someone who has played at the game's highest level would gaf about a maggot pretending to have played him?
Okay easychips I'll take yer word for it.
Will make a change from taking yer chips.
It says a lot about you that you have this embarrassing fantasy about "taking chips" from me.
Do you really think that someone who has played at the game's highest level would gaf about a maggot pretending to have played him?
Jan 19, 2019 -- 8:24PM, aaronh wrote:
remainers saying they will vote leave after so much of this remain tyranny.That these people were ever remainers is just as believable as if I were to post a video showing some mean things about the Tory party and then post "I used to vote Tory but now I have to vote Labour after this!"
Oiii get back to tennis! 
Yet another over-privileged white female towing the party groupthink by demonising the elderly people of this country.
her parents must be so proud
her parents must be so proud
Lefties seem to think that because older people are more right/leave and young are left/remain that this is a constant throughout their lives, so an input of more lefties means over time everyone will be more leftie, tha's not wat it works.
For every new 18 year old clueless student who thinks they know it all and will put the world to rights with the old socialism, there is a 30/40 something EX clueless student who has seen how the left operate, had life experience, has a job, and had enough and will vote Tory and leave. A number of right wing journalists were left in their youth. Peter Hitchens for example was a leftie member of Labour when he was young. I considered myself a bit of a leftie when I was a student. You grow up.
For every new 18 year old clueless student who thinks they know it all and will put the world to rights with the old socialism, there is a 30/40 something EX clueless student who has seen how the left operate, had life experience, has a job, and had enough and will vote Tory and leave. A number of right wing journalists were left in their youth. Peter Hitchens for example was a leftie member of Labour when he was young. I considered myself a bit of a leftie when I was a student. You grow up.
i am at the moment trying to work out what i am now (politically)
Don't bother trying to work that out Bappers, It'll only lead to countless hours of trying to belittle the side that you aren't.
nah, i know what he means. just a pop at life on here.
These are divided times. When Labour have been taken over by unacceptable political extremists and remain spend all their time belittling leave voters and trying to subvert democracy, you'll get a reaction.
indeed. I spend my time wishing (in quieter moments) that Labour were a real alternative to the Tories. A real choice is what the country needs, or you end up with what we've got now; a political mish mash of centralised pretense
The vote should never have been put to the people who are mainly a bunch of fackin idiots in the first place!!
there seems to be some imaginary world where only Remainers and lefties are saying mean things and all the horrible stuff leavers and right wingers say is just ignored
the switch to the right is happening at an older age if people are to believed. for one, the cultural divide on social issues is not going to split the way it did in the previous generation.
that previous 30/40 "ex clueless student" in the past generation probably got onto the housing market when it wasn't out of control, probably has had constant nice pay rises.
there seems to be a huge overestimation in the importance of student politics by people who haven't stepped on a campus ever also
the switch to the right is happening at an older age if people are to believed. for one, the cultural divide on social issues is not going to split the way it did in the previous generation.
that previous 30/40 "ex clueless student" in the past generation probably got onto the housing market when it wasn't out of control, probably has had constant nice pay rises.
there seems to be a huge overestimation in the importance of student politics by people who haven't stepped on a campus ever also
Jan 20, 2019 -- 12:40AM, Baphornet wrote:
indeed. I spend my time wishing (in quieter moments) that Labour were a real alternative to the Tories. A real choice is what the country needs, or you end up with what we've got now; a political mish mash of centralised pretense
what do you want in a "real alternative"?
That's certainly what Corbyn provides, even if you're never going to agree with him.
The stereotypical ultra-remain voter seems to want the second coming of Blair but without the bad wars. e.g. a David Miliband or something like that
they did it because they never thought they'd lose. Now whatever happens, it gladdens me that the 'people' gave them a good thumping. Now they are trying to squirm out of the result by fair means or foul. This will cause bmore agggrevation than they ever bargained for
it was hideously irresponsible of the government to not truly outline any contingency plan in the result of a Leave vote, that's for sure.
should have required a super majority to fix the vote
should have required a super majority to fix the vote
an "alternative" to an old Marxist, Trotskyist, Leninist, Stalinist or Maois (take your pick) would be a change for the better. Milliband would be PM by now if he had got the gig. Corbyn may have his core base; but he will never become PM. I presume that's what Labour voters want in the long run?
the manifesto was really not all that radical, even if Corbyn himself may be. and the 2017 performance clearly indicates they attracted more than their core support (+30 seats, +3m votes, + whatever swing %). you could basically plant a more palatable leader in place of Corbyn with the same manifesto and they'd win I think. they are still leading in lots of polls now.
Ed Miliband was an average centre leftist, which is what loads of people seem to be clamouring for but was hammered in the election presumably because he just seemed a bit of a geek
Ed Miliband was an average centre leftist, which is what loads of people seem to be clamouring for but was hammered in the election presumably because he just seemed a bit of a geek
yes agree about "palatable" leader, which is my point really. As for an election; i'm pretty sure if Corbyns still in charge there is a rather ignominious little clerk; sat in the bowels of Whitehall guarding a drawer full of 'evidence' to produce against him if needed. The establishment would never allow Corbyn to rule
Milliband followed by Corbyn could have been so much better, aaronh
Milliband followed by Corbyn could have been so much better, aaronh
I posted how I'd like Clive Lewis in one of the other threads, if you are going to pick someone from that circle.
if Labour are going to explicitly come out in support of remain, they might as well go the whole way and take steps to get Starmer in. they absolutely cannot do it with Corbyn despite what every FBPE on Twitter says he should do
if Labour are going to explicitly come out in support of remain, they might as well go the whole way and take steps to get Starmer in. they absolutely cannot do it with Corbyn despite what every FBPE on Twitter says he should do
well Lewis has certainly got the 'cred' & the antecedents for the job, aaronh. not to sure about Party support though?
and fully agree with your 2nd paragraph
and fully agree with your 2nd paragraph
I don't know if there is any recent suggestion of who the PLP choice would be. They absolutely embarrassed themselves trying to take out Corbyn at a time they probably had a half decent chance to had they got things right. as it was, they stumbled about between two different picks which were probably both bad in the end
i find it refreshing that we can have a civil chat, aaronh when our allegiances are so different. Maybe that's what the House is missing; alongside some more MP'S that actually do care
the more i think about Lewis, the more i'm liking the idea. I've now got to find an "alternative" for my Party
the more i think about Lewis, the more i'm liking the idea. I've now got to find an "alternative" for my Party
which as i've been looking for 2 years, you can maybe understand why i'm struggling so much
Lewis was one the the MPs who nominated Corbyn...
He calls himself a 'proud socialist' and is a member of 3 trade unions.
May as well stick with JC then..
He calls himself a 'proud socialist' and is a member of 3 trade unions.
May as well stick with JC then..
Lewis was one the the MPs who nominated Corbyn...
He calls himself a 'proud socialist' and is a member of 3 trade unions.
May as well stick with JC then..
He calls himself a 'proud socialist' and is a member of 3 trade unions.
May as well stick with JC then..
These old people that voted to leave not like those youthful remainers like Clark, Sowerby and Cable.
Cameron should've called the referendum this year instead of 2016....the nhs would've killed off most of the 'no' voters by now
"No" voters? I didn't realise it was a Yes/No referendum.
No to leaving or no to staying? Tell us please, we deserve to no
Zammo believes VERY firmly in just saying no, possible next leader of UKIP?
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