npower "Smart Meter"

wont work as you have low mobile signal

Just don't answer the phone to them, DO NOT get one m8.

I got one about a year ago. Fine, can see up to date figures for gas and electric used every 1/2 hour. No meter readings needed. The novelty wore off after a while and hardly ever looked at it online after the first month.
Changed energy providers 4 months ago, and not it is just like a normal meter as, apparently, they only work for the energy company that puts them in. Great joined up thinking by the government, to not insist they are transferable. Everyone will get them, then a few years later when we've all changed suppliers, we will all need new ones.

Why would they give anything for free (its not) and for everyone to pay less??

Smart Meters =
Radiation Emission

Creating Fire Hazards

Providing Dirty Hazards

Constant Surveillance

* Providing Dirty Electricity

* Providing Dirty Electricity

terry mccann • January 18, 2019 10:01 AM GMT
Why would they give anything for free (its not) and for everyone to pay less??

The "logic" (which is totally false imo) is that someone goes "omg look how much leccy an oven on full power is using, so I'll turn it off when I've finished cooking, instead of leaving it on all day".

That's right Dave

if you read your gas meter and deduct previous reading you can see how much you have used

you can do this every day if you wish

ditto electric.



if you get a smart meter from one company and then change supplier the meter will not work for new supplier
but may well be sending signals to your old supplier

what good is that to anybody



there will be smart meters coming out in the future that can be changed to new supplier.




who got the contract to supply these smart meters?  that should be investigated

Thanks guys, you've pretty much confirmed my own thinking....

Anyway, right or wrong, I told him I had cancelled the installation for now, and obviously he didn't care!

Twenty minutes ago I had an e-mail apologising for overlooking my cancellation message!

Being cynical, as I am, I reckon they just hope people will change their minds when the fitter arrives!

They are a bad idea. the older the meter is the slower it goes, (like a lot of things) So in effect you are getting youe electricity a bit cheaper

How long before a Smart Meter is used by the Police/Crown Prosecution Service is a Court Case?

Defendant: - I was out all evening at the Cinema with my girlfriend

Prosecution:  - How come you boiled you kettle 3 times, and switched your kitchen light on 5 times during the evening .... according to your SMART METER.

The fact that they need to lie to get us to have them installed tells us all we need to know.

For how exactly can the knowledge of how much power we are using save us money?
We either need to use the power or we don't.

An idea promoted by the bureaucrats in Brussels who believe they can influence climate change emissions by forcing us all (it will come to that) to have smart meters to make us more conscious of our useage. Our government has set aside several billions to implement this stupid idea and began with 'selling the idea' but as lower take up has happened the push on energy companies has become more punitive,hence their pressure and the tendency to forget cancellation messages for convenience ! Soon,we will see best offers conditional on using a smart meter to deliver blackmail to the consumer.

best offers are already including smart meters with some companies.

I would not advise anyone have a smart meter in your house, not if you value your health and especially the health of a child or unborn child.
There is very good reason your microwave oven is well insulated against microwave leakage

Very interesting to see so many adverse comments, from so many, within such a "niche" community!

Have to wonder what is the general opinion of the masses!

macarony...haven't researched your comment, but can you elucidate please...

Glad I opted out, as I think that staring at a monitor every time we flick a switch, or a timer kicks in, could lead to paranoia!

I'm not going to cut back on anything electrical (that I can think of) as if I need to use it, I will continue to use it,
and watching a meter whizzing round will not stop me from using my washing machine, tumble drier, dish washer, iron (I wish)
and nor from having all my lights on (inside and out) after dusk!

The real reason is somewhat more boring.

Our population is growing. So we have 2 options:

1. Build lots more power stations and plant and have loads more pylons everywhere;

2. Use the existing infrastructure more wisely. One way to do this is to move electricity usage to night time. The way to encourage this is to vary the price of electricity and pass that saving on to the customer (electricity is traded in half hour blocks now). That can only be done if a smart meter is in every house.

The future will have everything in your house talking to the meter to get the cheapest electricity to do what it has to do - eg, your dishwasher needs to go on after your evening meal. You tell it you need it to finish by 4pm tomorrow so you have enough dishes for your meal. The dishwasher asks your meter to scan the elec market to find the cheapest 2 hours and buys the slot. You get the elec at the cheapest rate - the elec company sells it rather than wasting it overnight.

NPOWER ARE A FOOKING DISASTER   G LUCK WITH UR NEW METER

DO YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THE WORSE CUSTOMER SERVICE RATING



IN


THE WORLD

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.npower.com

THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE ONE STAR IS YOU CAN GIVE NONE

CANT    DO YOU WANNA LAY ME EVENS THE FITTER DONT TURN UP LADY

I WOULDNT LET THE CXNTS INSTALL A LIGHT BULB

Lady Faye Verrit    18 Jan 19 21:11 
Very interesting to see so many adverse comments, from so many within such a "niche" community! general opinion of the masses

Have to wonder what is the general opinion of the masses!
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The, "general opinion of the masses" - will matter much LESS than that of - "within such a "niche" community"

Simply because ...

This, "niche community" - are on a Betting site - which means the Forum will be populated by people with (more) inquisitive minds - as they are always looking for a winner ...
Whereas - "the masses" - mostly just go through life with it merely 'happening around them'.


Lady Faye - The main objection to succumbing to this unwarranted, and unnecessary scam - is NOT the inflated claim of any potential financial gain/saving  - But ...

The point that you do not need to make any further METER READINGS.

Have you thought of how the companies AVAIL THEMSELVES of YOUR Meter READING, then?

... By REMOTELY ACCESSING your SMART METER - without YOU even KNOWING that they have done it.

Ask yourself ... Given the inexorable development of technology ... What ELSE will they be REMOTELY ACCESSING, in your house, and then PROFILING YOU - THROUGH your SMART METER - WITHOUT YOU KNOWING ... and in the near future, too.

EVERYTHING, probably... Phone calls - what television channels you have watched - Internet activity.

The future will have everything in your house talking to the meter to get the cheapest electricity to do what it has to do - eg, your dishwasher needs to go on after your evening meal. You tell it you need it to finish by 4pm tomorrow so you have enough dishes for your meal. The dishwasher asks your meter to scan the elec market to find the cheapest 2 hours and buys the slot. You get the elec at the cheapest rate - the elec company sells it rather than wasting it overnight.

Works both ways. Presumably they will also be using/selling this information to ascertain when people are more likely to use these devices and then charge them more during on-peak times.

Thanks onlooker...

As I said before, I'm glad that I didn't follow through with this installation.

I'm also cross with myself, for having got to the point of accepting the deal, without resorting to the usual checks,
of which I am always the first to advise others!

I don't like smart meters for the privacy implications but there are obvious reasons why power companies (and this might be good for consumers) might be able to change price, as hinted above, dynamically as load varies. Kind of like a Econmomy 7 on steroids. I'm sure it'll need new meters to do this so if it happens I might get one then if it seems worth it.

The way intelligent devices are coming on stream is quite scary. I saw one the other day, couldn't believe it, a "wifi camera for fridges".. so you can check whats in your fridge from your phone when out shopping to see what you need. For ****S sake. £150, you'd have to have more money than sense.

I'm surrised they work properly if the fridge is metal backed as you're trying to put a wifi transmitter in a faraday cage, unless it has a wire running out the door or something.